Can anyone please help figure out wtf is going on here...

Thanks for all the advice, sorry if I'm over paranoid I just constantly second guess myself since its my first. Besides for a few tweaks I'll probably be sending them into flower soon. Much love. Smoke on
 
Oh, I didn't realize how small those pots were, you might need to pot up. I really mostly know outdoor plants, and suck at indoor, but that looked a bit like water stress, but might be root bound? I am not sure, but yeah the solo cup under the pot I missed.
I thought this was a possibility. I just setup an automatic watering system so I can increase the frequency and hopefully prevent that from happening. You think I should be straight doing that or should I just pot up? I can do either.
 

Merlin1147

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No. Don't keep adding fertilizer until the plants start overdosing. Add fertilizer when the plants tell you they need it (if deficiencies begin to show themselves).

1.5 EC = 1050 PPM

depends on the ppm scale of the meter. Could be 750 if the meter is using 500 scale.
 

hanimmal

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I thought this was a possibility. I just setup an automatic watering system so I can increase the frequency and hopefully prevent that from happening. You think I should be straight doing that or should I just pot up? I can do either.
I am pretty sure you can just plant those into a larger container/bag and the roots will just grow out the sides of the current smart pot.

I am quickly getting out of my depth, but I think that if you repotted at the very least those plants would be happy.

I do think the watering deep once every 3-4 days will help too.
 

PadawanWarrior

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I let the pots get practically dry. I water 3x a day rn because the pots are so small, was actually thinking I might be under watering because of how fast they're drinkin. Doesn't help that half the stuff I read says let coco go through wet/dry cycles and the other half says it should be 80-90% saturated at all times smh
Coco should stay moist. You're confusing soil with coco. But since I'm doing organic no-till soil, I also try to keep my soil moist, but not wet.

You can water a lot less if you put it in a bigger pot though.

These are really cool transplant pots. Better quality than Smart Pots too. I have a huge box of them, but you can reuse them too.

I am pretty sure you can just plant those into a larger container/bag and the roots will just grow out the sides of the current smart pot.

I am quickly getting out of my depth, but I think that if you repotted at the very least those plants would be happy.

I do think the watering deep once every 3-4 days will help too.
Ya you're outta your league in this section, lol.

You are correct, you can just put the old fabric pot in a new one, but the roots will be happier if they don't have to go through the fabric.

And just transplanting to bigger pots isn't gonna make them happy all of a sudden. It's not like soil. He's growing hydroponically.
 

hanimmal

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Coco should stay moist. You're confusing soil with coco. But since I'm doing organic no-till soil, I also try to keep my soil moist, but not wet.

You can water a lot less if you put it in a bigger pot though.

These are really cool transplant pots. Better quality than Smart Pots too. I have a huge box of them, but you can reuse them too.


Ya you're outta your league in this section, lol.

You are correct, you can just put the old fabric pot in a new one, but the roots will be happier if they don't have to go through the fabric.

And just transplanting to bigger pots isn't gonna make them happy all of a sudden. It's not like soil. He's growing hydroponically.
Ok, so my advice of putting them in a bigger pot and watering deeper less often was not correct? I figured someone better could answer the question, I just thought I would put him on the right track. I like outdoor so much better because you get to work with the rain/moisture and land to get the results you are looking for.
 

Twohearted

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I didn’t read through all the replies, so maybe this came up, but I do think that 1500 ppm is a bit high.
If you fertigate twice a day there shouldn’t be much salt build up.

I would suggest reducing you to 1100-1200 ppm and fertigate until the runoff is the same. I would also switch to a different CalMag that has cleated iron. This is an important element in coco that helps with uptake. I know the Canna coco comes pre-buffered with CalMag and Iron, but if you are using RO water in coco, like I also do, then the iron will need to be replaced eventually.

Happy Growing!
 

Nizza

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How are you preparing your coco coir? Wash/ charge/ buffered? and what brand?

Yeah the first thought was that plant would like some more root space, I mean why not! It will make watering less of a hassle and the plant will thank you for it.

keep in mind when you flower the roots really only grow for about 2 weeks after 12/12 is initiated..
I would transplant, wait a few weeks, then flip if you have the space
 

Twohearted

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I also didn’t realize how small the pot is.
You don’t need a huge pot for coco indoors, I think that 3 gal cloth pots or smart pots are the sweet spot for coco. Some people use 5 gal, but unless you have a huge space for a mondo plant I think that 3 gal is best for indoor coco.
 

Twohearted

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If you do transplant I would recommend switching to Canna coco, it’s by far the best coco substrate I have used. It also comes all pre-charged/buffered.
You don’t need to use the nutrients to get the benefit of their substrate, but I am a fan of their stuff in general. They are expensive but very good products across the board. It also has no fillers in it, just premium perfectly processed coco so it holds more water than most brands.
 

TintEastwood

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Example 1 gal coco. Multi feed.

I would not repot. Feed lower EC. 1.6ec/800ppm. Include 3ml calimagic.

Cocoholics anonymous

Seedlings and early veg methods differ from mature root systems.
 
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How are you preparing your coco coir? Wash/ charge/ buffered? and what brand?

Yeah the first thought was that plant would like some more root space, I mean why not! It will make watering less of a hassle and the plant will thank you for it.

keep in mind when you flower the roots really only grow for about 2 weeks after 12/12 is initiated..
I would transplant, wait a few weeks, then flip if you have the space
I'm using prebuffered Canna Coco. I might just have to pot up I guess. I was hoping to stick with 1gal pots using high frequency fertigation after seeing some of the monsters others have grown using that method.
 
Coco should stay moist. You're confusing soil with coco. But since I'm doing organic no-till soil, I also try to keep my soil moist, but not wet.

You can water a lot less if you put it in a bigger pot though.

These are really cool transplant pots. Better quality than Smart Pots too. I have a huge box of them, but you can reuse them too.


Ya you're outta your league in this section, lol.

You are correct, you can just put the old fabric pot in a new one, but the roots will be happier if they don't have to go through the fabric.

And just transplanting to bigger pots isn't gonna make them happy all of a sudden. It's not like soil. He's growing hydroponically.
Thanks for the reply bro. So how dry do you let your pots get? Do you go by the knuckle deep test, pickup the pot and feel for about weight...? My plan was to follow high frequency fertigation from cocoforcannabis, and that pretty much recommends to water log them, keeping the soil atleast 90% saturated at all times...
 
I didn’t read through all the replies, so maybe this came up, but I do think that 1500 ppm is a bit high.
If you fertigate twice a day there shouldn’t be much salt build up.

I would suggest reducing you to 1100-1200 ppm and fertigate until the runoff is the same. I would also switch to a different CalMag that has cleated iron. This is an important element in coco that helps with uptake. I know the Canna coco comes pre-buffered with CalMag and Iron, but if you are using RO water in coco, like I also do, then the iron will need to be replaced eventually.

Happy Growing!
Sorry for the confusion, my ppm on the 500 scale is around 750-800 inflow. Def going to have to read more about the calmag issue you were talking about. I actually started with Calmag Plus but switched over to calimagic to lower the N a bit but maybe that was the wrong call. Thanks homie
 
Example 1 gal coco. Multi feed.

I would not repot. Feed lower EC. 1.6ec/800ppm. Include 3ml calimagic.

Cocoholics anonymous

Seedlings and early veg methods differ from mature root systems.
Thanks for all the info and links man. I see you around here a lot and always find some useful info from you. You def know your shit! So now I'll be on to checking out all these links. Much appreciated brother.
 

PadawanWarrior

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Thanks for the reply bro. So how dry do you let your pots get? Do you go by the knuckle deep test, pickup the pot and feel for about weight...? My plan was to follow high frequency fertigation from cocoforcannabis, and that pretty much recommends to water log them, keeping the soil atleast 90% saturated at all times...
I'm doing no-till living soil, so I try to keep it moist. I don't use coco myself, but I know you're supposed to keep it moist.

I think you're getting confused with soil. Listen to the coco people and keep it wet.
 
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