Can you use a root stimulant through entire life cycle?
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elfo777
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When I started growing I was using Biobizz Root Juice, but it's a bit expensive. I didn't buy it again and continued growing without any root stimulator. Found no difference whatsoever. My plants grew strong roots without any stimulator. Using some worm shit will provide you enough root development for your entire grow.
Nutty sKunK
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Well you’ve got to have the right soil in the first place..
Do you use a particular brand?
chemphlegm
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a plant will only grow to its weakest resource, not its strongest. if the soil sucks so will the roots, even with chems.
I use promix hp, I add organicare dried composted organic chicken shit as directed on the bag and water when pots are dry, right before plants wilt, same amount of water each time. thats it, perfect every time. I've got barn rafter full of grow equip and shelves of additives and nutrient systems, dusty for years, like my ppm, ph meters.
Nutty sKunK
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Thanks for sharing
And this lasts you to harvest? My goodness. I’d love to ditch all that shite too. In fact I do even with synthetics, soil will buffer PH and will burn or yellow if ppm is too high/low.Really want to move to the simplistic side of growing.
My first grow was always ‘ah she’s missing something, she needs more’ when in truth it was actually less
chemphlegm
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Thanks for sharing
Really want to move to the simplistic side of growing.
My first grow was always ‘ah she’s missing something, she needs more’ when in truth it was actually less
One dose of grow ferts during veg is plenty during veg
and the addition of dry ferts in flower is a weekly task, last couple/few weeks are skipped. cost is about 20 cents per addition.
Dr. Who
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OK, I watched this thread for a cpl of days......
How about you simply use a kelp extract? Does the same as (in fact those other things, are generally using Kelp extract as their base) any root "stimulant"....
Has your B complex, Amino's, hormone's and the Fulvic acid chain.
It's been proven that use of kelp increases root growth by as much as 173% (southern college study).
I use it at every transplant, at about every 10 days to 2 weeks, and at the transition.....Till the stretch is over. So I stop at the start of week 4 in bloom.
Simple, easy, cheap.
How about you simply use a kelp extract? Does the same as (in fact those other things, are generally using Kelp extract as their base) any root "stimulant"....
Has your B complex, Amino's, hormone's and the Fulvic acid chain.
It's been proven that use of kelp increases root growth by as much as 173% (southern college study).
I use it at every transplant, at about every 10 days to 2 weeks, and at the transition.....Till the stretch is over. So I stop at the start of week 4 in bloom.
Simple, easy, cheap.
Nutty sKunK
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Thanks for the info, I'll keep than in mind for the next one!
But I'm not needing it for stimulating my roots. I'm needing the Manganese, boron, calcium, magnesium, sulphate, iron, zinc, molybdenum etc.. that comes with it.
These elements are supplemented in my Bloom complex but the nitrogen ratio is too high for my strain. Hence I'm needing an alternative for those micro nutes and have been half dosing the root stim.
Any recommendations?
chemphlegm
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think about it....would you prefer your root to be stimulated artificially through its life cycle or naturally?
Nutty sKunK
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think about it....would you prefer your root to be stimulated artificially through its life cycle or naturally?
Well natural is preferable of course
Roger A. Shrubber
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i guess if the product has all the micros you're wanting, it shouldn't hurt anything. if the product contains auxins, it may promote a tall spindly plant, as auxins will boost apical growth and supress branching
Nutty sKunK
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Well that I’m not sure.. unless it’s a amino acid or enzyme then I’m pretty sure it’s not present. Maybe that’s one to ask the company.
Here’s a list of its contents.
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Kingrow1
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Not the best root stim for seedlings and germination, too much can cause aborts as many studies show. Id avoid any seaweed till the plant has a week or two under its belt as over generous use of it ends in fail.
People can try this at home with liquid seaweed and a few spare beans.
Its not recomended for flowering much either.
coreywebster
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Use your bloom at a reduced rate and up the EC with a small amount of PK booster. Resulting in less N to PK ratio
Dr. Who
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Not the best root stim for seedlings and germination, too much can cause aborts as many studies show. Id avoid any seaweed till the plant has a week or two under its belt as over generous use of it ends in fail.
People can try this at home with liquid seaweed and a few spare beans.
Its not recomended for flowering much either.
Um, why quote me?
Never said seedlings, or especially anything about it's use in germination - yuck! Yet the popular and overpriced rooting enhancer from GH is mainly Kelp extract.....Most are! I use other homemade products for my cloning.....Can you say Willow water?
They do get a light taste at the jump to solo's....How old are your seedlings in a root riot then?......Quality home built soils have kelp meal in them. The study I quote, gets those best results from turning Kelp meal into the soil..
As far as bloom.....When RareDankness runs organic.....He use's a mix of 2 brands of kelp extract, a nutrient tea and Age old bloom at every feeding! Want the formula he use's? I got that.....
Like I said, I use it till the end of the stretch.... 2 reasons. I up-potted only 8-10 days before. From a 3 to most likely a 7. I like that kelp to help fill the roots out in the pot for those 2 -3 weeks.....More roots/better budding!
I use it a little longer for some landrace Sativa's.
So, your info is good but, Why quote me?
Nutty sKunK
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See I was working along those lines! I use a cal/Mag supplement as my water is very soft but that also contains nitrogen. So my last feeding was cal/Mag, PK booster and half root stim for trace elements.
Nitrogen claw hasn’t gotten any worse.
So next feed I’ll try a half dose with supplemented PK..
Thanks man
Kingrow1
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Um, why quote me?
Why quote me?
Quoted you because you posted about a topic were talking about and thats how conversations happen. You want me to insult your intellegence and where you give crap info then carry on treating me like your above me, otherwise pipe your attitude down and grow the fuck up!
Dr. Who
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Testy...got a hangover today?
I gave quality info.
You did too.
Where in that did I insult you?
If you feel spoken down to. That's your interpretation, not my intent.
As for the rest....I'll skip the insult's, that's grown up.
Kingrow1
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I dont drink and didnt think my initial reply would generate a response as to why i had quoted you.
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