Cannaventure seeds thread

socaljoe

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I have been mixing 5.9- 6.0 usually. I run in coco and perlite. Maybe i should bump my PH up a little.
I've had good results running Coco a bit higher, like in the 6.2-6.3 range. I think it was in the Mega Crop thread in the advertisers forum, there was a good discussion about running Coco pH higher than conventional hydro range...worth a read if you feel like finding it, I think it would be within the last 15 or so pages of the thread.
 

thenotsoesoteric

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I've had good results running Coco a bit higher, like in the 6.2-6.3 range. I think it was in the Mega Crop thread in the advertisers forum, there was a good discussion about running Coco pH higher than conventional hydro range...worth a read if you feel like finding it, I think it would be within the last 15 or so pages of the thread.
That would make sense. I've had ph issues a few times here in the last year or so and perhaps I was just too low on those runs? I have been doing 6.0ish range here in the last few feedings.
 

CAPT CHESAPEAKE

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I typically mix to 5.8 range but it usually drifts upwards a little to the higher range. If you're having cal mag issues then maybe letting it start a little higher will help.
I am drain to waste . I don't have serious issues just seems like i am on the edge a lot . Seems like a lot of my mixing comes up around 6.2- 6.3 and usually wind up knocking it down to 5.9 - 6.0.
 

CAPT CHESAPEAKE

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I've had good results running Coco a bit higher, like in the 6.2-6.3 range. I think it was in the Mega Crop thread in the advertisers forum, there was a good discussion about running Coco pH higher than conventional hydro range...worth a read if you feel like finding it, I think it would be within the last 15 or so pages of the thread.
Thanks @joe i will check that out
 

socaljoe

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That would make sense. I've had ph issues a few times here in the last year or so and perhaps I was just too low on those runs? I have been doing 6.0ish range here in the last few feedings.
I'm wondering if it doesn't come down to specific nutrients lines regarding pH and uptake. I've been using Mega Crop and having good results at the low-mid 6 range, but MC has chelating agents in it that make nutrients available over a wider pH range, at least that's my understanding, so I wonder if that's all there is to it.
 

whytewidow

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Well they got a stronger feeding of both megacrop snd calmag. They def look better today after 6 hours of light off. Still a little light. Guess I'm gonna have to buy another ph pen. Idek where mine is at now. But the good thing is these are getting topped and first 2 nodes will b removed anyway for lollipopping. So doesnt matter if the fans are camo lol. But this morning at lights on. One of them has a really strong nose. I can smell it just when I open it up and look at it. Not sure which it is. But damn its reekn.

Also possible not only ph outta whack. But the light I built and hung maybe too much for them. Bc that's when everything started. But they got a few days to straighten up. Or they will get tossed. I dont have time for all this ph-ing n shit. Lol
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growslut

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I used to ph between 6.0-6.5 in soil, but my plants seem much happier once I bumped it up between 6.5 and 7.0.

Still ph the nutrient mix (think that's a must) but stopped ph'ing the filtered tap water last year. The tap water can fluctuate between 6.6-7.4 but the plants don't seem to mind it at all. I even recently read on IG where someone said their plants are loving 8+ph.

Looking at the nutrient guide above, and others, it seems the most nutrients are available around 7.0. Wonder why that's not more of a standard for growing?
 

CAPT CHESAPEAKE

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@thenotsoesoteric is right that's what i meant.
When I was using a ph pen I was ph-ing between 6.25-6.45 bc the soil usually drifts up some. And lays around 6.50-6.75 in my soil mixture.

This chart shows you for soil only. Best ph ranges for each of the nutrients listed.

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Yes that is the one i was looking for. How does the hydro ph number compare to the soil chart that you posted. My AG girl are finally starting to fill in nice at 6.5 weeks. Your look a little more happy. Probably getting ready to take off.
 

Thegermling

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Well they got a stronger feeding of both megacrop snd calmag. They def look better today after 6 hours of light off. Still a little light. Guess I'm gonna have to buy another ph pen. Idek where mine is at now. But the good thing is these are getting topped and first 2 nodes will b removed anyway for lollipopping. So doesnt matter if the fans are camo lol. But this morning at lights on. One of them has a really strong nose. I can smell it just when I open it up and look at it. Not sure which it is. But damn its reekn.

Also possible not only ph outta whack. But the light I built and hung maybe too much for them. Bc that's when everything started. But they got a few days to straighten up. Or they will get tossed. I dont have time for all this ph-ing n shit. Lol
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I have these in case one day my ph pen breaks on me...
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Bodyne

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I have these in case one day my ph pen breaks on me...
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Im not colorblind, lol and I use the ph juice and I'd never run my nutes that ph at 7 with that bluegreen shade, lol. Try it and see, lol. You really have to watch what you see on IG, I see somone today putting ice like a top dressing on their almost finished plant, Im sure that's a new idea someone come up with that looks a lot better on paper that in actual reality. Oh yea, it must be to stimulate a frost situation, lmfao! One of those theory things, lol. IMHO if you are getting better looking plants running your ph at 7, there is something in the medium you use causing this, but jmho
 
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Bodyne

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I'm wondering if it doesn't come down to specific nutrients lines regarding pH and uptake. I've been using Mega Crop and having good results at the low-mid 6 range, but MC has chelating agents in it that make nutrients available over a wider pH range, at least that's my understanding, so I wonder if that's all there is to it.
I barely have to adjust the ph using megacrop, why I like it so much. I even add a half capful of FishShit and URB and alternate with capful of liquid karma, and it still stays really close to 5.5 to 6. In flower I add the RIU homeade calmag/budcandy recipe and even then, if I have to use any ph down at all, its like drops, lol, no shit. its that close.
 

RoDDin

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@thenotsoesoteric is right that's what i meant.
When I was using a ph pen I was ph-ing between 6.25-6.45 bc the soil usually drifts up some. And lays around 6.50-6.75 in my soil mixture.

This chart shows you for soil only. Best ph ranges for each of the nutrients listed.

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oh man, i must be blazed out. actually tried to click on the big 'X' on the picture to see if it'll minimize the picture. >.<
 

whytewidow

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Im not colorblind, lol and I use the ph juice and I'd never run my nutes that ph at 7 with that bluegreen shade, lol. Try it and see, lol. You really have to watch what you see on IG, I see somone today putting ice like a top dressing on their almost finished plant, Im sure that's a new idea someone come up with that looks a lot better on paper that in actual reality. Oh yea, it must be to stimulate a frost situation, lmfao! One of those theory things, lol. IMHO if you are getting better looking plants running your ph at 7, there is something in the medium you use causing this, but jmho
They put ice on the top dressing then water. To make the water super cold. During flush. To fade plants. On plants that dont fade on their own. Ice bath them and itll turn. It doesn't help anything but bag appeal. And that's not off of IG. It's from a legit horticulturist from a big university. It's not intended for herb per say. I think these are based off of carrots, cabbage, squash, and green beans. They are just close representation to get you started.

I havent had to ph either, using M.C. That's why I dont have a ph pen now. Lol. But these arcata ghost and Cali mango mass must be super ph unfriendly.
 
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macsnax

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Im not colorblind, lol and I use the ph juice and I'd never run my nutes that ph at 7 with that bluegreen shade, lol. Try it and see, lol. You really have to watch what you see on IG, I see somone today putting ice like a top dressing on their almost finished plant, Im sure that's a new idea someone come up with that looks a lot better on paper that in actual reality. Oh yea, it must be to stimulate a frost situation, lmfao! One of those theory things, lol. IMHO if you are getting better looking plants running your ph at 7, there is something in the medium you use causing this, but jmho
I've heard of people pouring ice water in the for zone to enhance purps. Sounds like voodoo, I know.
 
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