Tangerine_

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I'm surprised ny how many people do just that, run seeds in a run they're going for production. Clones for the win.

Nothing worst then counting on a harvest and the shit is mediocre or seeded. :cuss:
^this^
And many times, it takes a couple of runs to really narrow it down.

We have a couple of newish dispensaries in town. One spot does one-and-done seed runs. The other spot is run by an older guy that's been slinging buds since I was in HS. He runs his clones and has consistent stock.

I'm sure y'all can guess which is one has a steady stream of customers.
 

Michael Huntherz

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The dude that got me into growing and me were going to pool our resources and run together. Then he told me we can't run clones because plants from seed are stronger..... I was kinda like, well how do you plan on counting on quality, smh. We're not running together, lol. That one didn't work out and he doesn't even talk to me anymore..... Probably for the better, one of them cases where the student has surpassed the "master".
I was thinking about something related to this earlier today. I have a former neighbor who remains a grow bro friend. He has experience running large commercial greenhouse perpetual SOGs in California, and obviously they ran clones, that’s not the part I am on about...he has many more years of experience growing, some of it at vast scale, but he has some of the oldschool superstitious bro science beliefs and gives me a hard time about not doing stuff his way sometimes. I feel like I don’t want to disrespect his experience, but it is going to be hard to convince me heating my water to 85f is going to speed up nutrient uptake, or that such an effect would be desirable. Ambient air temps in the mid 70s, but 85 degree water? That’s bananas to me. I am trying to tread lightly, because he is a super good dude, but as a research junkie and professional learner of new things, I am awful tired of letting folks’ stubborn superstitions slow me down, even a little bit...but there’s nothing to be done for it, except bitching occasionally.
 
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Cornfed Dread

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20181123_184951.jpg my interesting find here. This male was found in Indiana Bubblegum S1 seeds that i was gifted before i moved to Michigan. Myself and others have popped many over the years an all been female .He is a solid male no intersex traits or other issues during first run of him. He started inside was put outside on a opposite light schedule , dried him out . An finish back inside . Solid lots of pollen collected an he was kept. Growing out some the crosses made an the Indiana Bubblegum S1 selected female that was about spot on copy of mom lanky with solid structure and great stacking plus that pink bubblegum skunk nose.
 

Bodyne

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View attachment 4237905 GMO x Dessert Breath from good ol genuity these are going be fire. Ran 2 keepers of Dessert Breath for 3 years now. Smack GMO with oh yeah. I dont much care for GMO terp profile but everything else about her desirable and as i said love Dessert Breath. Lets see what we get.
Of the three during his offering at the other place, that one was the one I thought would be more to my liking. Still kickin myself for not takin it, I don't see it now there.
 

Michael Huntherz

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Copper Orgi orgy, six shots of the Electric Six.
Looks like the one I kept back is the fastest finisher of the group, happy fuckin’ birthday to me! (Oh my goodness, my birthday actually is next week, I just realized.)
 

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SSGrower

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I am 99% sure 2 plants will come down w
Looking for help with early identification of intersex traits.

Some things I find suspicious though not necesarily inclusive of being intersex -
1) Yellow growth, more accurately thin yellow surrounded by thin green on preflowers.
2) spikey growths at preflowers, I don't have any better description other than an excessive amount of the small leaflets that form at the bottom of preflowers.
3) most recently have seen some info on not having preflowers at all expected sites. In other words there are 4 possible sites for preflowers at each apical node, on this particular plant 1 of those sites is vacant.

This is a cross of mine
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I am 99% sure 2 plants will come down way early. An f2 I made and a Graveyard Whisperer. The gw has lower balls and nanners along with some of the suspicious traits I list above.
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The spikeyness is more apparent in the f2, a pic from about a week ago
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Today about 5.5 weeks flower
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Collecting pollen from the reversed male gw already shook some onto a piece of paper and sprinkled up top.
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And to wrap up this report, the runt gmo x swayze that is still a week or so from being done threw a nanner about 3 weeks ago
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And another popped out the other side a day or so ago.

I think I have doNE a pretty good job documenting the stresses these plants have seen. The gw and other "big" plant were likely victim to excessive light intensity and perhaps a form of wind burn due to cool dry air from the inlet blowing on them. Lights were turned down bout a week ago (was 600 now 400ish, amare monos off and dialed cob rig back to 180) aND the inlet was moved to the bottom instead of being behind the 12 cob rig.

Open for comment but please realize it is not an insult to you if I do not follow your advice. I choose to grow this plant in the manner I do and fully accept the challenges. I hope this does not blacklist me from being a tester.
 

genuity

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I am 99% sure 2 plants will come down w

I am 99% sure 2 plants will come down way early. An f2 I made and a Graveyard Whisperer. The gw has lower balls and nanners along with some of the suspicious traits I list above.
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The spikeyness is more apparent in the f2, a pic from about a week ago
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Today about 5.5 weeks flower
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Collecting pollen from the reversed male gw already shook some onto a piece of paper and sprinkled up top.
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And to wrap up this report, the runt gmo x swayze that is still a week or so from being done threw a nanner about 3 weeks ago
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And another popped out the other side a day or so ago.

I think I have doNE a pretty good job documenting the stresses these plants have seen. The gw and other "big" plant were likely victim to excessive light intensity and perhaps a form of wind burn due to cool dry air from the inlet blowing on them. Lights were turned down bout a week ago (was 600 now 400ish, amare monos off and dialed cob rig back to 180) aND the inlet was moved to the bottom instead of being behind the 12 cob rig.

Open for comment but please realize it is not an insult to you if I do not follow your advice. I choose to grow this plant in the manner I do and fully accept the challenges. I hope this does not blacklist me from being a tester.
This is the point of testing,all good information

I think I had one drop balls/nanners on my short ruff conditions testing with the GW chuck

Only got this 1 female of GMO x Swayze & she is fine so far(24 days in 12/12)
With a even more prominent tuna like smell(same smell I got from th seeds kushage & exotic seeds green ribbion),stacking good,not a lot of stretching on this one..

Always post what you find bro,it's the right thing to do..
 

Amos Otis

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Copper Orgi orgy, six shots of the Electric Six.
Looks like the one I kept back is the fastest finisher of the group, happy fuckin’ birthday to me! (Oh my goodness, my birthday actually is next week, I just realized.)
Looks like your instincts were good about not splitting up the family. Fine job, especially with all your business and other distractions. Feliz anos nuevo, amigo. Mine was last week. What say we go get a legal beer?
 

Michael Huntherz

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Looks like your instincts were good about not splitting up the family. Fine job, especially with all your business and other distractions. Feliz anos nuevo, amigo. Mine was last week. What say we go get a legal beer?
Sounds like a hell of a notion to me, buddy! Would that we could. Thanks very much. I may pull that small early girl down before long because I am down to smoking larf nugs right now, (to self; “that’s what happens when you don’t grow for almost a year and give away half your crop, ya jackass”) but I will let the rest go for a few more weeks if needed.

I thought it was going to take me a year to find four good mothers to keep in the stable, but I have been blessed by a good bunch of company in this game, I need to choose between the Huckleberry DesTar I barely started flowering, and whichever of the Honeystomper x Hickock Haze aka “Death Stomper” females I pick. They are about to show gender and one is incredibly stanky already, sure hope it is a Shirley, eh?

Orange Blossom Special will be around for a while. Cookies n Chem will hang for at least one more run, to see what I can do with it. Copper Orgi is making me feel pretty certain she will stick around. I need one more, either something blueberry or something grape, I hope. You know, for now.
 
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