Shua1991

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About a week till chop, week 9 of flower for this Strawberry Daiquiri F2, some strange reason it's purpling up this grow and not during the cold winter grows. Still has the best terpe of anything I've grown in the last 4 years.IMG_20200531_143816.jpg

She popped a few nanners this run from heat stress and I used them to pollinate a blueberry/pineapple phenotype of Golden tiger just to see what will come of it.

Same golden tiger was doused with pollen from my pink Plushberry male. So ill have a few nice polyhybrids to test in about 2 months time.
 
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18six50

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On the hermie confusion was that maybe about people selfing with a nanner or a hermie that if i understood correctly produces female seeds, but then those can herm on you.

What i was wondering further was what is the influence of crossing siblings and grandparents and all this incest. could it be better to avoid inbreeding by for example crossing two pairs all the same breed but as unrelated as possible. Then take a child from each pair and make F1. And take that as far as you can go without incest but knowing that yes we are all related to Kevin Bacon. Instead of all this back crossing of child to grandparents. It may be harder to control the outcome but can that give you a stable strain?
Just about any plant will toss some balls if you mess with it enough. If you mess up the light cycle or give the plant stress in other ways they can term hermie. Letting the plant go way past harvest date and messing with the light is a good way to get a plant to produce some pollen. Ethylene is the key to sex expression in weed, anything that reduces or ends ethylene production will produce balls in a female plant. Some plants toss out balls no matter what you do, those are the ones you want to avoid. A lot of the early landrace strains would hermie indoors too, so the genetics are in these plants.



And when it comes to plant incest, it's true that if you cross and recross strains they lose vigor. The most vigorous plants are hybrids. Hybrid vigor, it's called and I think the less related the parents the more vigorous the offspring will be. That's why some people think that we will have to go back to introducing more landraces strains to try and get some of the vigor back. But honestly I'm not noticing lack of vigor in these well bred polyhybrids. I can say this for a fact, I lost vigor in my own strain when I didn't add in new strains to the mix every so often. That could have been my poor breeding but I don't think so. I had plenty of plants to choose from. I think you just lose something by breeding too far down the same line.

Introducing new genetics into a strain line gives it a shot in the arm and probably the less related the better.
 

18six50

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I'm sitting here using my old tray to roll seeds down as I tip the tray up and wondering how many new pot heads, that don't chuck, have never had this experience, that is so common to us Chuckers and old smokers. Just a funny thought because back in the day everyone had a tray or used a magazine or something, but we all did it, but how many young smokers never see a seed at all these days? They probably see an old fashioned rolling tray and wonder why the sides are tall and sloped like that.
 

18six50

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I always feel like they should be further along in size at this stage always worrying lol trying to do the best
They look great, nice and healthy and lots of fire.

ECSD is the strain that always makes me worry. I never think it's going to produce worth squat, I never think it's far enough along and then it always finishes nice anyway and if I take the time to weigh the harvest compared with other plants it's usually right up there.
 

klx

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Demo F2s at day 54. Its hard to get good pics as they are on a tray and tall so need to climb up a step ladder lol. Will get better ones at harvest. They starting a 10 day or so flush today.

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Forum leaner:

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Chem D leaner I am guessing?

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This is a chuck I did of Sweet Black Angel x LA Affie (reversed) and for day 43 its looking and smelling pretty nice.

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