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MichiganSpinDoctor

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I'm a libertarian. Basically a Ron Paul libertarian. I like freedom. I like the idea of a sound currency. I like the US constitution.

I don't like authoritarians.

Maybe this will kickstart a conversation. I felt like the election was a rock and a hard place as far as the centralization of authority went. Turns out trump is seriously nationalist. That is good for decentralization of power, so I like it. He also seems to dislike regulations as much as I do.

Thoughts on authoritarianism as it relates to modern politics?
 
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Justin-case

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I'm a libertarian. Basically a Ron Paul libertarian. I like freedom. I like the idea of a sound currency. I like the US constitution.

I don't like authoritarians.

Maybe this will kickstart a conversation. I felt like the election was a rock and a hard place as far as the centralization of authority went. Turns out trump is seriously nationalist. That is good for decentralization of power, so I like it. He also seems to dislike regulations as much as I do.

Thoughts on authoritarianism as it relates to modern politics?
So basically you're a pussy racist that wants to be accepted in what you deem as an intolerant society?
 

Justin-case

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Any civil discourse can begin now.
The newsletters drew attention for controversial content when raised as a campaign issue by Paul's opponent in the1996 Congressional election, Charles "Lefty" Morris.[7]

Many articles in these newsletters contained statements that were criticized as racist or homophobic. These statements include, "Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."[8][9][10][11] An October 1992 article said, "even in my little town of Lake Jackson, Texas, I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense... for the animals are coming."[12] Another newsletter suggested that black activists who wanted to rename New York City after Martin Luther King, Jr. should instead rename it "Welfaria," "Zooville," "Rapetown," "Dirtburg," or "Lazyopolis."[2] An article titled "The Pink House" said "I miss the closet. Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities."[2][13][14] Another newsletter asserted that HIV-positive homosexuals "enjoy the pity and attention that comes with being sick" and approved of the slogan "Sodomy=Death."[2]

A number of the newsletters criticized civil rights activist Martin Luther King, Jr., calling him a pedophile and "lying socialist satyr".[2][15] These articles told readers that Paul had voted against making Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday a federal public holiday, saying "Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reaganapproved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day."[2][16][17] During the 2008 and 2012 presidential election campaigns, Paul and his supporters said that the passages denouncing King were not a reflection of Paul's own views because he considers King a "hero".[18][19][20]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul_newsletters
 

MichiganSpinDoctor

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The newsletters drew attention for controversial content when raised as a campaign issue by Paul's opponent in the1996 Congressional election, Charles "Lefty" Morris.[7]

Many articles in these newsletters contained statements that were criticized as racist or homophobic. These statements include, "Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal."[8][9][10][11] An October 1992 article said, "even in my little town of Lake Jackson, Texas, I've urged everyone in my family to know how to use a gun in self defense... for the animals are coming."[12] Another newsletter suggested that black activists who wanted to rename New York City after Martin Luther King, Jr. should instead rename it "Welfaria," "Zooville," "Rapetown," "Dirtburg," or "Lazyopolis."[2] An article titled "The Pink House" said "I miss the closet. Homosexuals, not to speak of the rest of society, were far better off when social pressure forced them to hide their activities."[2][13][14] Another newsletter asserted that HIV-positive homosexuals "enjoy the pity and attention that comes with being sick" and approved of the slogan "Sodomy=Death."[2]

A number of the newsletters criticized civil rights activist Martin Luther King, Jr., calling him a pedophile and "lying socialist satyr".[2][15] These articles told readers that Paul had voted against making Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday a federal public holiday, saying "Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressman. What an infamy that Ronald Reaganapproved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day."[2][16][17] During the 2008 and 2012 presidential election campaigns, Paul and his supporters said that the passages denouncing King were not a reflection of Paul's own views because he considers King a "hero".[18][19][20]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Paul_newsletters
The last sentence is true, for sure. Personally, I put on the mountaintop speech at least once a year and shed a tear.
 

Fogdog

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I'm a libertarian. Basically a Ron Paul libertarian. I like freedom. I like the idea of a sound currency. I like the US constitution.

I don't like authoritarians.

Maybe this will kickstart a conversation. I felt like the election was a rock and a hard place as far as the centralization of authority went. Turns out trump is seriously nationalist. That is good for decentralization of power, so I like it. He also seems to dislike regulations as much as I do.

Thoughts on authoritarianism as it relates to modern politics?
I mean this with the best intentions. Just want to point out that Ron Paul is a raving racist of the worst sort. Also that libertarian doesn't really mean freedom. It means freedom for employers and large companies to do and say whatever they want. Libertarians object to laws that prevent an employer from demanding sex whether penetrative or oral as a condition of employment. Also pretty much rules out not only legal protections for civil rights of workers but also pollution, zoning laws, safety, all sorts of other regulatory practices.

It's pretty much a made up idea that fits quite well with the designs of the wealthy on everybody else in this society.

Have you spent much time going through the shit on the Mises institutes' web page?
 

Justin-case

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I mean this with the best intentions. Just want to point out that Ron Paul is a raving racist of the worst sort. Also that libertarian doesn't really mean freedom. It means freedom for employers and large companies to do and say whatever they want. Libertarians object to laws that prevent an employer from demanding sex whether penetrative or oral as a condition of employment. Also pretty much rules out not only legal protections for civil rights of workers but also pollution, zoning laws, safety, all sorts of other regulatory practices.

It's pretty much a made up idea that fits quite well with the designs of the wealthy on everybody else in this society.

Have you spent much time going through the shit on the Mises institutes' web page?
You're too nice ;)
 
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