Clarification on what an R2 cross is?

Dorian2 said:

So is the Cannabis community using the term hybrid more for strain differences rather than actual plant differences? Reason I'm asking is somebody mentioned that Sativa and Indica are basically both Cannabis Sativa. If I'm thinking this out correctly, an Auto flower, with the introduction of a Ruderalis, would be a truer hybrid "type" than the hybrid "strains".

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I would say 99% of the cannabis community are using the term "hybrid" correctly without knowing any deeper criteria.
While an autoflower may sound like a truer hybrid, it's the opposite. it's actually more homozygous than heterozygous cuz they had to stabilize recessive traits to make the auto in the first place...whereas an f1 is the truer hybrid

Love it when stoners get scientific,

PadawanWarrior said:

Love it when stoners get scientific,

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E=MC²

Dorian2 said:

So is the Cannabis community using the term hybrid more for strain differences rather than actual plant differences? Reason I'm asking is somebody mentioned that Sativa and Indica are basically both Cannabis Sativa. If I'm thinking this out correctly, an Auto flower, with the introduction of a Ruderalis, would be a truer hybrid "type" than the hybrid "strains".

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You're wading into murky waters now. I'd suggest that you read what Robert C Clarke has to say on the matter:


Here's how he generally classifies strains:

PJ Diaz said:

You're wading into murky waters now. I'd suggest that you read what Robert C Clarke has to say on the matter:

(PDF) Cannabis Taxonomy: The "sativa" vs. "indica" debate

PDF | On Jan 30, 2018, Robert C. Clarke and Mark D. Merlin published Cannabis Taxonomy: The "sativa" vs. "indica" debate | Find, read and cite all the research you need on ResearchGate

www.researchgate.net

Here's how he generally classifies strains:

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I downloaded the pdf and will read it for sure. One of the reasons I made the reply that I did was to kind of qualify that many of the subjects that are commonly talked about on Cannabis sites have a lot more to them than what is being presented by forum members. Not saying it's necessarily a bad thing. People have their own knowledge base and can only comment on what is known in their sphere of influence and level of education. It's kind of why I pre-empted with my take on music theory as a parallel. I studied contemporary music (Jazz) at a post secondary level, and you should see the shit hit the fan if you get a Jazz, country, classical, blues, and Metal person trying to come to agreement at a theoretical level. Won't even go into Hiphop, R&B, and Rap artists.

Gets a bit cray cray at times. Then there are people on forums trying to make up their own music nomenclature and ways of teaching.

FYI. I do a lot of parallel thinking with music and everyday ideas that have nothing whatsoever to do with music at all. Such as botany. I'm weird that way.

Dorian2 said:

I pre-empted with my take on music theory as a parallel. I studied contemporary music (Jazz) at a post secondary level, and you should see the shit hit the fan if you get a Jazz, country, classical, blues, and Metal person trying to come to agreement at a theoretical level. Won't even go into Hiphop, R&B, and Rap artists.

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I used to work with a band who played everything from jazz to bluegrass, prog-rock, metal, surf, funk, disco, doo-wap, pop, emo, gypsy, video-game, and classical. They were some real amazing weirdos, but a handful to juggle.

PJ Diaz said:

If your concern here is tracing lineage back, that can easily be done through robust note taking and accurate genealogical charts.

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just remember it was mudballs that showed you how to do it properly...scientifically, so you wont get laughed at by horticulturalist, professors, and academia when you submit a paper for peer review. You wouldn't have known how to properly record an R1,R2 without me and i went thru a bunch of stress to fkn give it to you too.