Clearwater Genetics

Bodyne

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Anyone here know what the terps are like on CW Creamsicle? I should know better than to assume the name has anything to do with the phenotype these days but I assumed it was orange-cream like the ice cream treat.
Funny you should mention that, I'm chopping a pack give or take of pint size. I kilt one or two and culled one or two, but ended up with 9. The early finishers by a week are creamy purple cookies, stoney, and that taste last for hrs seems like. But I have one plant identical to all the others, I didn't top them, anyhow, one plant is straight orange peel into a creamy dank almost skunk. I know I didn't mislabel it, I suspected dude at glo for a minit, lol cause it wasn't a breeder pack, it was his black replacement dealio. I know think it happened at the factory, lol. Good meds tho, not too purply, rich and creamy, legs for hrs, but that one orange one. And there is a slight nuance of the orange creamcicle, but after that loud orange on the front end. Trimmed the plant in another room and the room smelled like juicy fruit gum, but that first hit is fresh orange peel. Almost gag ya for a second.
 

Dividedsky

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Funny you should mention that, I'm chopping a pack give or take of pint size. I kilt one or two and culled one or two, but ended up with 9. The early finishers by a week are creamy purple cookies, stoney, and that taste last for hrs seems like. But I have one plant identical to all the others, I didn't top them, anyhow, one plant is straight orange peel into a creamy dank almost skunk. I know I didn't mislabel it, I suspected dude at glo for a minit, lol cause it wasn't a breeder pack, it was his black replacement dealio. I know think it happened at the factory, lol. Good meds tho, not too purply, rich and creamy, legs for hrs, but that one orange one. And there is a slight nuance of the orange creamcicle, but after that loud orange on the front end. Trimmed the plant in another room and the room smelled like juicy fruit gum, but that first hit is fresh orange peel. Almost gag ya for a second.
I'm not sure how I feel about orange terps, I like the one you're talking about- creamy sweet orange. I smoked on some orange push pop from a pack of seedjunky that didn't even taste like weed, it's was like orange freeze pop, it was incredible and tasted awesome. Though I have to mention I've had some orange terps that tasted fucking gross, they make me think of pledge or kitchen cleaners. Feel like orange terps can be real hit or miss, depending on strain. I tend to like the candy orange terps over the strains that try to get the fruit orange terps out of the strain.
 

higher self

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Has Clearwater mentioned how big the selection runs were for the recent studs (MaiTai, Creamsicle, Blue Razzsicle)?

I'm happy Clearwater offers S1s of their studs. If its good enough to reverse and chuck then it's good enough for me! I've got enough unproven crosses to sift through...
I wonder this about all the popular strains. How many pheno's did they select from. I started to ask this looking at my Dosidos f2 packs, #9 and #23. So if I pop some quality genetics whats the magic number to find the winning pheno, I know that can't be answered but 9 & 23 aren't too high of numbers to find that keeper pheno. I think that's why we get these shitty 10 packs to grow from most reg packs x high prices. Best bet imo is to f2 the gear & run the numbers yourself

Anyways welcome me to the Clearwater Gang, the Spearmint Style calling my name + people mentioning extra seeds in their packs. I didn't get a glo deal but a hundo for 10+ fems is reasonable
 

higher self

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I'm not sure how I feel about orange terps, I like the one you're talking about- creamy sweet orange. I smoked on some orange push pop from a pack of seedjunky that didn't even taste like weed, it's was like orange freeze pop, it was incredible and tasted awesome. Though I have to mention I've had some orange terps that tasted fucking gross, they make me think of pledge or kitchen cleaners. Feel like orange terps can be real hit or miss, depending on strain. I tend to like the candy orange terps over the strains that try to get the fruit orange terps out of the strain.
I feel that way with lemon terps, lemon pledge taste horrible out the vape imo. Much prefer the candy terps like you said but haven't ran any orange stuff.
 

CaliWorthington

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I wonder this about all the popular strains. How many pheno's did they select from. I started to ask this looking at my Dosidos f2 packs, #9 and #23. So if I pop some quality genetics whats the magic number to find the winning pheno, I know that can't be answered but 9 & 23 aren't too high of numbers to find that keeper pheno. I think that's why we get these shitty 10 packs to grow from most reg packs x high prices. Best bet imo is to f2 the gear & run the numbers yourself

Anyways welcome me to the Clearwater Gang, the Spearmint Style calling my name + people mentioning extra seeds in their packs. I didn't get a glo deal but a hundo for 10+ fems is reasonable
Speaking of Dosidos, Archive had an IG post a few years ago where he mentioned running 500 seeds and found some special Lilikoi pheno or something. Said he planned to do 500 seed selections from then on. I don't know if he's done that again, or what happened to that pheno.

F2 generation unlocks all the ancestors of both parents, so it has wide variation. This is where the most special gems are likely to be found, but also a lot of mediocre phenos to weed through.

When you pay a lot for a pack of regs, it is wise to make F2's with multiple males. If you have time and space to hunt through the F2's you're almost guaranteed to find something nice.

Then again, sometimes you do find a keeper in the first pack. I popped half a pack (7 seeds) of a strain. Six of them were male, but the seventh was a cup-winning quality female.
 

higher self

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Speaking of Dosidos, Archive had an IG post a few years ago where he mentioned running 500 seeds and found some special Lilikoi pheno or something. Said he planned to do 500 seed selections from then on. I don't know if he's done that again, or what happened to that pheno.

F2 generation unlocks all the ancestors of both parents, so it has wide variation. This is where the most special gems are likely to be found, but also a lot of mediocre phenos to weed through.

When you pay a lot for a pack of regs, it is wise to make F2's with multiple males. If you have time and space to hunt through the F2's you're almost guaranteed to find something nice.

Then again, sometimes you do find a keeper in the first pack. I popped half a pack (7 seeds) of a strain. Six of them were male, but the seventh was a cup-winning quality female.
You can definitely find keepers in one pack. I think the variety aspect works out all the same bc with 10 seeds your off to the next strain after that & the next 10 seeds & so on. F2's will have variety just with the same strain while you have a higher chance for keepers maybe even better than F1's bc breeder never took it past that.
 

Flatrate

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Hey dude all those look fucking great! What are you liking better- envy or clearwater?
Thanks man! Sorry but I really can't answer that yet because I haven't smoked much Clearwater yet. I got Cold Stone and Purple Flavornoid in solo cups right now along with a strain from Chuckers Paradise. Also probably within the next week or two you can catch me in the Tiki Madman thread here on RIU, I got one in there that I know is going to be a stunner.

Then starting in the fall I am going to be running Envy once again until next spring. So far I really dig Clearwater, they grow good and its looking like the yield will be there. Plus being fems and tons of seeds per pack.
 

Dividedsky

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Thanks man! Sorry but I really can't answer that yet because I haven't smoked much Clearwater yet. I got Cold Stone and Purple Flavornoid in solo cups right now along with a strain from Chuckers Paradise. Also probably within the next week or two you can catch me in the Tiki Madman thread here on RIU, I got one in there that I know is going to be a stunner.

Then starting in the fall I am going to be running Envy once again until next spring. So far I really dig Clearwater, they grow good and its looking like the yield will be there. Plus being fems and tons of seeds per pack.
Ya the fems things is huge for me at this point-now I'm running a decent amount of packs again- I'm just want to basically phenohunt females, I'm not breeding so males make wasted space, most times I run em long enough in veg so they sex and cull the males in veg before transplanting. Only thing you have to worry about with fems is a shitty pheno and occasional herm which is no big deal. I used to be all about regs but have changed my outlook especially since alot of strains I want to run are fems.
 

Flatrate

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Ya the fems things is huge for me at this point-now I'm running a decent amount of packs again- I'm just want to basically phenohunt females, I'm not breeding so males make wasted space, most times I run em long enough in veg so they sex and cull the males in veg before transplanting. Only thing you have to worry about with fems is a shitty pheno and occasional herm which is no big deal. I used to be all about regs but have changed my outlook especially since alot of strains I want to run are fems.
I am about the same as you my friend. I love Envy, their gear has been good to me except the run of males I had which made me turn to having testing done. I was looking around for fems and found Clearwater as the crosses they have sounded interesting plus I scored a bunch from GLO. So far the only herm I had came from Cannarado.
 

Dividedsky

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I am about the same as you my friend. I love Envy, their gear has been good to me except the run of males I had which made me turn to having testing done. I was looking around for fems and found Clearwater as the crosses they have sounded interesting plus I scored a bunch from GLO. So far the only herm I had came from Cannarado.
Nice ya only got a few last year with envy cosmopolitan...though the keepers of the cosmopolitan were absolute bangers so didn't matter. Was strange though.
 
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