Climate in the 21st Century

Will Humankind see the 22nd Century?

  • Not a fucking chance

    Votes: 41 28.7%
  • Maybe. if we get our act together

    Votes: 34 23.8%
  • Yes, we will survive

    Votes: 68 47.6%

  • Total voters
    143

injinji

Well-Known Member
They are clear cutting old growth forests in BC, Canada and turning it all into wood pellets to ship around the world. The UK's largest electric power generation plant burns those pellets along with others around the globe.
There is a wood pellet factory here in the Florida panhandle. Scraps from pine timber is what they use mostly. Ours is sent to Norway for use in wood stoves.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Dont take the flight! :lol:

Are any planets moving away from the Sun?



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It's not just Earth, either; every planet drifts away from its parent star. Here's the science of why. An accurate model of how the planets orbit the Sun, which then moves through the galaxy in a...Jan 3, 2019
no; they just keep circling and circling like tourists looking for street parking in Manhattan.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Dont take the flight! :lol:

Are any planets moving away from the Sun?



Image result for is venus moving away from the sun


It's not just Earth, either; every planet drifts away from its parent star. Here's the science of why. An accurate model of how the planets orbit the Sun, which then moves through the galaxy in a...Jan 3, 2019
From what I think I understand, the thought is that we are in equilibrium around the sun, but what I figure is that if nothing else the sun is going to continue to grow in size, as it does, if the gravity increases we should end up closer to the sun, which would mean that the outer planets would be in the 'Goldilocks' zone we are now currently in.

But lol yeah, I might trust the scientists that are the ones doing all Musk's homework and letting him take credit for it like the typical spoiled rich kid he has always been, but I am actively avoiding anything with his name on it, because he sucks and makes shit decisions.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
From what I think I understand, the thought is that we are in equilibrium around the sun, but what I figure is that if nothing else the sun is going to continue to grow in size, as it does, if the gravity increases we should end up closer to the sun, which would mean that the outer planets would be in the 'Goldilocks' zone we are now currently in.
The sun will grow in size but not mass. It will also brighten as its internal chemistry adjusts. But all that is at least a billion years in our future.

Over the next ten thousand years I expect the solar system to undergo noticeable changes (from some alien astronomer’s vantage), all as a result of engineering.
 

Sativied

Well-Known Member
You all sound like spoon believers.

When I’m really high I can induce panic attacks just thinking about things like how fast the planet moves through space, the sun having an expiration date, the universe expanding. It just takes the realization both time and scale are highly perceptual to calm down again. It’s almost like an exercise. Imagine being a one-day fly. When your lifespan is a week, a week is a long time. Things that happen fast to us, take a good part of the life of other beings. Now imagine living for 200years, kids would grow up seemingly even faster. Now live for a decillion of years. The universe will be like firework. Big bang! Big bang! Big Bang! Though, ours might just be a small bang. A fizzle. We are living in just a miniscule fraction of one explosion in a huge fireworks show. Nothing to worry about though. The scale of things makes it like an ant on earth worrying about diamonds raining on Jupiter, nothing you can do about it, that stuff is hardcoded, no user input allowed.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
You all sound like spoon believers.

When I’m really high I can induce panic attacks just thinking about things like how fast the planet moves through space, the sun having an expiration date, the universe expanding. It just takes the realization both time and scale are highly perceptual to calm down again. It’s almost like an exercise. Imagine being a one-day fly. When your lifespan is a week, a week is a long time. Things that happen fast to us, take a good part of the life of other beings. Now imagine living for 200years, kids would grow up seemingly even faster. Now live for a decillion of years. The universe will be like firework. Big bang! Big bang! Big Bang! Though, ours might just be a small bang. A fizzle. We are living in just a miniscule fraction of one explosion in a huge fireworks show. Nothing to worry about though. The scale of things makes it like an ant on earth worrying about diamonds raining on Jupiter, nothing you can do about it, that stuff is hardcoded, no user input allowed.
May spoon have mercy on you

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Grandpapy

Well-Known Member
You all sound like spoon believers.

When I’m really high I can induce panic attacks just thinking about things like how fast the planet moves through space, the sun having an expiration date, the universe expanding. It just takes the realization both time and scale are highly perceptual to calm down again. It’s almost like an exercise. Imagine being a one-day fly. When your lifespan is a week, a week is a long time. Things that happen fast to us, take a good part of the life of other beings. Now imagine living for 200years, kids would grow up seemingly even faster. Now live for a decillion of years. The universe will be like firework. Big bang! Big bang! Big Bang! Though, ours might just be a small bang. A fizzle. We are living in just a miniscule fraction of one explosion in a huge fireworks show. Nothing to worry about though. The scale of things makes it like an ant on earth worrying about diamonds raining on Jupiter, nothing you can do about it, that stuff is hardcoded, no user input allowed.
I'll remain patient and stay in this moment. :eyesmoke:
 

DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
The EV market is just getting started and there will be better batteries and longer ranges. Norway leads the EU in adopting EVs and they have abundant hydroelectric power to charge them, power trains and even electric trucks charged on the move using pantographs and overhead wires. In 10 years most cars in the EU could be EVs, many places in Asia too, and a large percentage of cars in America too, what will that do to gasoline demand?


Plugin electric vehicles took 89.3% share of the auto market in Norway in November, down from 91.2% year on year. Full electrics (BEVs), however, grew their share YoY, from 73.8% to 81.6%. Plugin hybrids continued to tail off, dropping to 7.7% from 17.4% YoY. Overall auto volumes were 19,513 units, up almost 28% YoY. November’s overall best seller was the Tesla Model Y.

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DIY-HP-LED

Well-Known Member
A cheap small-town car, or one used mostly for commuting from the burbs to the city and back is where we will probably see the most EVs, as a second car for many in the suburbs and small towns surrounding cities and a primary one for city dwellers. China might face problems making cars because of chip shortages, but they can sell batteries and other components used to make cars. These sodium batteries would be cheap and seem to have plenty of range and cold weather performance. These cheap alternatives could see widespread use in economical cars and electric bicycles and will probably improve in performance over time.

 

Roger A. Shrubber

Well-Known Member
A cheap small-town car, or one used mostly for commuting from the burbs to the city and back is where we will probably see the most EVs, as a second car for many in the suburbs and small towns surrounding cities and a primary one for city dwellers. China might face problems making cars because of chip shortages, but they can sell batteries and other components used to make cars. These sodium batteries would be cheap and seem to have plenty of range and cold weather performance. These cheap alternatives could see widespread use in economical cars and electric bicycles and will probably improve in performance over time.

i'd be happy to have a small town vehicle that could be charged with a couple of panels on my roof. most of my trips are under 20 miles, to go to the grocery or hardware store, or the pet store. my scooter is great, but you can't carry a lot, and it's air cooled, heavy traffic sucks.
 

Sativied

Well-Known Member
i'd be happy to have a small town vehicle that could be charged with a couple of panels on my roof. most of my trips are under 20 miles, to go to the grocery or hardware store, or the pet store. my scooter is great, but you can't carry a lot, and it's air cooled, heavy traffic sucks.

Originally French, now owned by Polaris US. Barely reaches 30mph, no car driver’s license required. No panels on the roof but easy enough to charge at home with solar power. People used to laugh at these cars/quadricycles cause they were mostly used by disabled/elderly. Since a few years though they've become very popular among rich cool kids as a more comfortable alternative to scooters. I can definitely see myself driving one some day, no 'road tax' and planned retirement town is 8miles from beach.
 

Sativied

Well-Known Member

We should be putting this into every exiting waterway we can. Maybe double it up though, that way the lighter stuff can be picked up on a second rung of buoyies.

People were very skeptical when this kid presented his plans. Scientists, nay-sayers, gatekeepers and even environmentalists all over the world ridiculed him for his naive ideas.

When people say something is impossible, the sheer absoluteness of that statement should be a motivation to investigate further.” -Boyan Slat
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus

Originally French, now owned by Polaris US. Barely reaches 30mph, no car driver’s license required. No panels on the roof but easy enough to charge at home with solar power. People used to laugh at these cars/quadricycles cause they were mostly used by disabled/elderly. Since a few years though they've become very popular among rich cool kids as a more comfortable alternative to scooters. I can definitely see myself driving one some day, no 'road tax' and planned retirement town is 8miles from beach.
I have viewed the minicars with interest. The State won’t allow them on the roads. They have to be freeway-capable (sustain 100 kph) and somewhat safe in a collision.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member

People were very skeptical when this kid presented his plans. Scientists, nay-sayers, gatekeepers and even environmentalists all over the world ridiculed him for his naive ideas.

When people say something is impossible, the sheer absoluteness of that statement should be a motivation to investigate further.” -Boyan Slat
I am not a big one with everyone being skeptical being somehow a negative, because it is so impressive that he stuck with it and is seeing his vision through. I don't know anything about this guy or the company (and still really don't, is he starting from scratch, because that is a whole lot of infrastructure he is using so some serious money is behind him) I just really appreciate the innovation and effectiveness.

Being skeptical is just prudent most the time.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
I am not a big one with everyone being skeptical being somehow a negative, because it is so impressive that he stuck with it and is seeing his vision through. I don't know anything about this guy or the company (and still really don't, is he starting from scratch, because that is a whole lot of infrastructure he is using so some serious money is behind him) I just really appreciate the innovation and effectiveness.

Being skeptical is just prudent most the time.
Healthy skepticism is a useful filter. It’s reflex skepticism that is easy but sometimes worse than useless.
 

hanimmal

Well-Known Member
Healthy skepticism is a useful filter. It’s reflex skepticism that is easy but sometimes worse than useless.
Unless you maintain a healthy amount of skepticism in your own ability to not be gullible. It really balances it out by forcing you to do the work to figure out the likelihood of the range of outcomes.

But then you have to overcome laziness in doing the necessary work.
 
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