Cloning auto-flowering strains
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hotrodharley
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No they will not. Cloning an auto is a fool's errand.
Purpsdro420
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That is not true. Yes it will revert back to veg, but It will no longer be an autoflowering plant. It will be a regular plant
thetester
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If I understand you correctly, I can clone them as I would any plant but I will have to induce flowering from the first clone on? So auto-flowering seeds produce plants that will auto-flower once only?
Purpsdro420
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Yes the autoflower trait will not pass on once you clone it. Therefor you will have to induce flowering by switching to 12/12. Sry I should have been a little more clear the first time. Most people that use autoflowering plants usually just start new seeds once they need more plants
thetester
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Thank you for your expertise!
topfuel29
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I do not agree. When you clone any plant the genotype is passed on to the clone. The clone has the exact same DNA as the mother. Lmao it has to have the same genetics.
Purpsdro420
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I'm not trying to argue topfuel but I have personally watched this done many time. I may not be an expert or a pro but for years I watched my friends grow room and seen this done. I do not use autos so I haven't had to deal with it but my last set of clones I got we're clones from a cloned auto and they defiantly didnt flower themselves
kpmarine
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Please provide proof of this claim. If you're going to say that cloning changes a plant's genes, you'd better be able to back it up. You can't clone an auto and have it not flower right with the mother.
kpmarine
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What strain? Did you take the cuttings yourself, or somehow see it happen?
Psychonaughtical
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This is painfully stupid.
A regular plant? Like a photoperiod plant? As in simply by severing it from the mother it will change it's genetic timeline?
What you're seeing is a plant that is taking time to ROOT. Yes, it can stretch and grow a bit during this. But it's not vegging and it does not turn into a photoperiod plant.
You can continue to stress and starve it of light if you want it to stretch and deform. But essentially it will take more work, more time, and more ferts for what you could have kept on the plant in the first place. An extra three weeks to get a possible increased yield is barely worth it when you could have a had a true and proper photoperiod plant in that time.
Purpsdro420
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Yes I watched his grow from seed to clone to harvest. He was my caregiver , a great and longtime friend of mine. The strain was balck domina auto. I don't have pic of his but I have pics of the clones I got from his clones auto.
first pic is right after it rooted and went into dirt second is 2 weeks give or take a couple days after I switched to 12/12 the third is about a week from harvest stand 1 1/2 ft tall
first pic is right after it rooted and went into dirt second is 2 weeks give or take a couple days after I switched to 12/12 the third is about a week from harvest stand 1 1/2 ft tall
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Purpsdro420
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They were vegged for a month a 1 week. The one week was the first week in the dirt and it didn't grow much that week
kpmarine
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Show me that plant vegged for 4 months under 24/7 light without flowering, and then we can discuss whether it's a true auto or a photosensitive strain (One that flowers under less than 24hr lighting.) like Iranian Autflower. If you can cut a clone and veg it, my money would be on it not being a true auto.
topfuel29
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You're mistaken.
Long day plants can not become short dayplants through propagation by cloning.
Asexual Propagation
Asexual propagation (cloning) allows the preservation of genotype because only normal cell division (mitosis) occurs during growth and regeneration. The vegetative (non-reproductive) tissue of Cannabis has 10 pairs of chromosomes in the nucleus of each cell. This is known as the diploid (2n) condition where 2n = 20 chromosomes. During mitosis every chromosome pair replicates and one of the two identical sets of chromosome pairs migrates to each daughter cell, which now has a genotype identical to the mother cell. Consequently, every vegetative cell in a Cannabis plant has the same genotype and a plant resulting from asexual propagation will have the same genotype as the mother plant and will, for all practical purposes, develop identically under the same environmental conditions.
Asexual propagation produces clones which perpetuate the unique characteristics of the parent plant. Because of the heterozygous nature of Cannabis, valuable traits may be lost by sexual propagation that can be preserved and multiplied by cloning. Propagation of nearly identical populations of all-pistillate, fast growing, evenly maturing Cannabis is made possible through cloning. Any agricultural or environmental influences will affect all the members of that clone equally.
"(Clarke, Marijuana Botany)"
Long day plants can not become short dayplants through propagation by cloning.
Asexual Propagation
Asexual propagation (cloning) allows the preservation of genotype because only normal cell division (mitosis) occurs during growth and regeneration. The vegetative (non-reproductive) tissue of Cannabis has 10 pairs of chromosomes in the nucleus of each cell. This is known as the diploid (2n) condition where 2n = 20 chromosomes. During mitosis every chromosome pair replicates and one of the two identical sets of chromosome pairs migrates to each daughter cell, which now has a genotype identical to the mother cell. Consequently, every vegetative cell in a Cannabis plant has the same genotype and a plant resulting from asexual propagation will have the same genotype as the mother plant and will, for all practical purposes, develop identically under the same environmental conditions.
Asexual propagation produces clones which perpetuate the unique characteristics of the parent plant. Because of the heterozygous nature of Cannabis, valuable traits may be lost by sexual propagation that can be preserved and multiplied by cloning. Propagation of nearly identical populations of all-pistillate, fast growing, evenly maturing Cannabis is made possible through cloning. Any agricultural or environmental influences will affect all the members of that clone equally.
"(Clarke, Marijuana Botany)"
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