Closet 2.0: Dialed in. Back with more PAR T5's, Sannies Genetics, Earth Juice, ++

Nice bro! You gotta good plan so stick with it and I feel success for ya! And yeahhhh, I vegged my White Widow and My Blue Widow so long becuase I thought I could veg them until my auto bub started to flower....Did work according to planned, but as you can see all it good so I would sweat it! An you got a mother chamber so you can just pop it in there during lights out. YOUR GOOD bro haha. I can wait to harvest already and start something new man.

You should get some mycos too bro!
http://www.planetnatural.com/site/mycorrhizae.html <- I picked this up at my local shop for $12.00.

It's supposed to make a HUGE difference bro. Just do a google search of plants treated with it, vs plants not treated with it.
The side by side should be enough to convince you to buy some. BUT mycos frees up P in the soil during flower, and they form relationships with the roots to help them out tremendously!

And I don't wanna come of like some know it all bra. 10 years from now maybe lol but not now.
I'm here to help you out like you here to help me, so I'm just speaking on what I've read and whats working for me.
I'm the it if works for you, it should work for me type. And visa versa.
But seriously, all the sttff you got, you'll be able to use it a few times. And you can use the soil over. Just re-amend it, and sit it for 4 weeks again.

So all the money you'll spend WILL come back in a way

I got the myco man, it was in the recipe, lol. So it's in there.

Don't mean to put pressure on ya, I know if it goes sour it's not your fault or anything, LOL. I'm just sayin, as far as the mix is concerned, since I used your recipe, I'll definitely follow your advice on the time frame, haha.

Curious about the re-amending... you put the same amounts of everything in again? save for the perlite and peat ,which aren't goin anywhere...? And full amounts of everything else?

only reuse it onece or twice but pretty much just re-amend in same ratios to original. once the peat decomposes to mush and it doesnt take as long as you would think, your pH will go out the window, and the roots will look like shit.

thats why i went to just straight peat and dol lime, with nothing more decomposable or ingrained food source(although i will be adding kelp and bone meal soon because bone meal does not decomp as fast and kelp meal mostly feed fungi.) and that why i feed compost teas vs. having the organics in the soil to basically just rot the peat away. using my method i should be able to recycle my peat and perlite mix with only the addition, of bone meal, kelp and dol lime, for a few years. your soil has a year, year and a half at best.

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only reuse it onece or twice but pretty much just re-amend in same ratios to original. once the peat decomposes to mush and it doesnt take as long as you would think, your pH will go out the window, and the roots will look like shit.

thats why i went to just straight peat and dol lime, with nothing more decomposable or ingrained food source(although i will be adding kelp and bone meal soon because bone meal does not decomp as fast and kelp meal mostly feed fungi.) and that why i feed compost teas vs. having the organics in the soil to basically just rot the peat away. using my method i should be able to recycle my peat and perlite mix with only the addition, of bone meal, kelp and dol lime, for a few years. your soil has a year, year and a half at best.

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Good to know man, thanks a lot! I don't suppose coco coir or another alternative besides peat might stand up better...?

coco will last about the same amount of time. actually no alternative just more inert inorganic material, like perlite, sand, vermiculaite, rocks, gravel, an shit will help.

Haha cool regarding the soil mix! You'll be JACKED to see the shades of green that you do WHEN YOU DO bro!
It's THE SHIT! And no pressure bro. Id rather answer question haha. Shows me how much I remember of the shit I spend all day reading haha

And I know for a FACT that those mycos make a BIG difference! They did for me with this years second crop!

And you re-amend your soil with a cup or two less in total. Some of the things you added will still be breaking down and working.

For example the green sand doesn't do anything the first year really lol but help retain moisture and improve soil structure(as all soil has some sand in it).
After that year it'll be of nutritional value(P) as it will have broken down by then.

You have to replenish your humus source most importantly. You can buy humus, compost, or EWCs to do that with. But you humus source is whats gonna buffer your PH(keep near neutral and keep it from fluctuating one way or the other. In such a soil(a good one) your plants pick and choose their food from the soil by producing root juices called exudates. It's always better in organics to have a variety that just a couple things...
I'll add some more ECWs and compost as a source of humus when I harvest and re-amend.

And yeah I'll prob only reuse my soil like twice like Poly said, but hey, that's money in the bank for me. Plus im not buying bottles nutes...I'm making my own with the amendments that I have. They work different tho for the plants tho, so get that in your mind fast haha! The sooner the better!
Plants dont get any o the N-P-or K directly. They get a form of each which comes by way of the microbes dying and being eaten in the soil.
For example, the N that comes from the bottle ain't in the same form as the N that you mix into you soil. You'll pick it up bit by bit as you go bro just keep reading about it! I figure if I win the soil battle by mixing a MARVELOUS soil, I've won most of the battle in growing weed.
And you dont have to use teas with this soil mix, they just help.
You can literally water only from start to finish.

Oh yeah and Kelp is a must Poly! It's packing growth homorones, good Potassium, and a GANG of essential trace elements.
Kelp if so good that a lot of ppl mix it into their soil in two parts. For it's nutrional value and mineralization properties!
And why do you say a year or year and a half Poly? The peat being completely decomposed?
You don't think you go press on if you just amend the humus source? And nice post btw!

You give teas throughout so that you constantly adding life to your soil...more bacteria, more fundi, more protozoa, and more nematodes. All benefical microbes!

You humus source has to be a good one as it should be teeming with microbes, or full of life. Your humus will literally keep your PH in check and keep everything you add to your soil in it(nute wise)

AltarNation said:

Good to know man, thanks a lot! I don't suppose coco coir or another alternative besides peat might stand up better...?

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Coco is known for not being as stable with the PH as peat!

Update:

Sup guys... hard at work on me ladies today... decided two jackberries (7-8 week quoted) were ready for the chop, they are now hangin' in the adjacent closet. Got my humidifier in there to raise the RH to about 50% to slow drying process... figure it really couldn't hurt because I chopped when the soil was almost dry... it was either water one more time and then wait another couple days before chopping, or just go for it now... and these two looked ready so I went for it.

I ALMOST chopped the herijuana, but she's got a 7-9 week window (today is end of week 8..) and I noticed that she has lil' dollops of green growth in the midst of each bud... it's hard to even tell, she's so thick with leaf and crystal... the buds are buried in there somewhere, haha. Anyway, I was looking closer and saw new growth on each bud so I decided to give her this last week, maybe a little longer, depending on how it's looking. She has plumped up more than i thought, upon closer inspection, and I want to see what else she can pull off.

I've heard a lot of people say heri smells bad... but this heri smells awesome. It's a rich flavor, not sweet at all, a nice earthy tone. Very "brisk" like sharp coffee... hard to put into words, but I guess maybe a little stingy like a skunkiness, only distinctly "rich coffee" in flavor so it doesn't seem skunky at all. haha. I really like the smell though, I think it's going to be a welcome mixer-upper change of pace from the sweeter tones I get from both the kolossus and the jackberry. (more about anesthesia in a min)

The third Jackberry, which was actually Jackberry 1, and the only jackberry survivor from that mis-germination I had before I added more seeds, is still going. Her crystal coverage is noticeably thinner than the other two jackberries... buds are thinner too... but there is a lot more green still on her, she is the one who held onto her leaves the best of the three... so I'm thinking she's got more time in her... maybe stunted from the bad start. I decided to give her at least another week and see what happens.

Anesthesia is growing really nicely... similar in build to the Herijuana, stocky buds that grow really plump. A little more plump, in fact. I love that shit. The jackberry is very long and thin compared to either. Kolossus knocks it out of the park, of course, because it's plump and long, haha. Kolossus does not fail to impress with bud size/density.

Anesthesia's smell is odd... kind of a minty understatement of some sort... it doesn't smell STRONGLY... it's a muted scent... and it is almost spearminty... honestly it doesn't appeal to me much at all compared to the others, but it's not strong so it's not intrusive either. It's just sort of there. I will be interested to see what I get out of it flavor-wise, after dry and cure.

Jackberry's flavor is predictably fruity, with a little bit of over-sweet to it, or a slight cheese undertone perhaps. The fruity part is enjoyable but it needs to thin out and lose some of the pungency and we'll talk. I think it could be really nice after dry and cure.

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Anyway, I stopped for a break and hit a dab of OG Kush... (shit's almost gone, haha. Awesome christmas gift.) Thought I would update while I chill for a few, then get back to work...

Photos from take-out-and-inspect coming shortly... gonna start importing them then go back and do the feeding.

Pic Update:

Supplies:



Shroom Chocolates:







Cool swirlies in the surface, presumably mushroom dust, haha:





Chocolates jarred, broke out some old cannabutter (lol, so green, I gotta work on that technique) and used it up on rice krispy treats after this shot:



Jackberry just before harvest:





Sorry for pic quality, I gotta get better lighting for the next shots...







Chop chop:


Jackberry 2 starts here:




Lower body area:








Herijuana:








Jackberry '1' (the one that's lagging behind):



Anesthesia:




Anesthesia seems to have fared fairly well... developing a lot of undecarriage bud:











































Finally, the mighty Kolossus... truly a yielder, and plenty of life still left in her to go:








Here's the other Kolossus, not doing quite as well but still pretty impressive:




Soaking 8 bagseeds for 12/12 from seed experimentation, and 3 fem C99's.

You can see my new oil rig here too... a concentrate bowl on a lil bong... and although not in sight, I got a hakko 454 soldering iron to hit it with:

I wish I were you.....

Sincerely420 said:

I wish I were you.....

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You are me is he is we! Sorta... if you eat some of these mushroom chocolates

I am really looking forward to trying the herijuana... and I have a really good feeling about that anesthesia, it seems to be yielding pretty well so far and it's got some time left, it can go up to 10 weeks. I'm looking forward to seeing what it can pack on.

Tomorrow I'm going to go in and do a lot of tying things back to spread out wider and take advantage of the extra space. This will get more light to every branch. It will be good to see what the anesthetic and those massive kolossus buds can do with two more weeks or so.

Those kolossus buds just blow my mind:


Not the best picture but that cola is nuts.

Can't wait to start mainlining... the sloppy bud distribution is disappointing with these... I am really impressed with what I've seen of the mainlining technique... even sized buds all around, and they all want to grow to the same height... pretty crazy, seems like the absolute ideal way to train/top. Really can't wait to try it... gotta get a couple more nodes first, and do the transplants.

Just found out tonight I'm getting a surprise guest tomorrow... they're only going to the basement, for furnace maintenance. But, my filter's been shit lately, and now I'm drying too, haha. At least it's only two. lulz. God has a funny sense of humor I tell you what. Should be okay, I got the door to the room closed for the next 24 hrs just in case and we'll burn some shit down stairs...

SPEECHLESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

kiss-ass
HOPE MY JACKBERRY LOOKS LIKE THAT

i use the air spray that eliminates airborne odors and germs, it works the best for dealing with weed smell too, that and sage, sage is the ultimate cover up.

word? sage does the trick u say? not to be mixed with the strain lol.
they say you can use drier sheets as a carbon filter or u can go with the ona gel but i heard doing that in grow room could make ur product taste like that....does this occur when u used sage?

copp'd an order off the tude.... CANT WAIT FOR MY SHIRT!

glockdoc said:

word? sage does the trick u say? not to be mixed with the strain lol.
they say you can use drier sheets as a carbon filter or u can go with the ona gel but i heard doing that in grow room could make ur product taste like that....does this occur when u used sage?

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i dont burn it in with the plants just in the basement around them and unstairs not near them mostly for weed im drying and smoking. but no, no residual tastes, im sure there would be if smoke was hitting shit directly, but diluted with normal air in circulation, shouldnt be a problem.

gotcha. good to know!

Yes, sage is the shit... hides lots of things well, smells great, scares off the demons