Closet | Garden of Ease | CFL GROW!!!

Well, this will be my next grow journal, so allow me to start by saying I welcome and appreciate each and every helpful response I get. With that said, onto my grow!

• 7 Days Old
• Bagseed
• Garden of Ease - Rockwool, Silica stone, 4-site DWC system
• No nutrients picked out yet
• 4 23w 2700k CFL lights (rated at 1600 lumens each)
• 8-inch hemispherical reflectors
• 12/12 light cycle from seed
• 2ft. x 3ft. grow area

Any comments?...suggestions?

looks ok ......

What would be the best way to get rid of some of the heat while keeping this stealthy? (I live in an apartment so I don't think venting to the attic would be good)

Fans....I kind of have the same prob I just have to run my central air and I have about 4 fans going.

yeah i was having heat problems in my flower cab with a bunch of cfls.... i used a big box fan in there pointing up and that keeps it nice and cool so if you have room try it.... or add more small fans i also use bottles of frozen water in front of the fan.. may not help much but i know it works a little at least... i recently started using 2liters...pretty big chunks of ice takes longer o unfreeze than the water bottles i was using

are you running intake/outake? If not.... I'd def get a couple of the DIY CO2 bottles in thee (water, sugar, yeast). You kinda really need that... but if you run enough CO2 making stuff you might not.

There's no intake, no outtake...yet. That's why I was asking what I should do, since I live in an apartment and I can't quite go cutting holes in the doors, walls or ceiling.

How much does supplementary CO2 affect the plant's growth and yield? Is it worth it?

Goodro, what you speak of is actually the first form of air conditioning.


I'm going to put a box fan at the top of the closet (where the Xbox steering wheel is), blowing air up, with frozen water bottles sitting on top of the box fan. The hot air will rise and be blown by the fan through the frozen water bottles, cooling it down and thus causing it to fall to the lower portion of the closet.

What do you guys think?

CO2 definitly helps final yield, by as much as 50-100%. However, the main benefit her is that running a CO2 enriched environment allows you to run higher temperatures, which you will be doing. since you are sealed, you should be able to get adequate amounts of CO2 with just the fermentation method.

BTW, if you leave it as it is, and dont open the door like.... every lit hour, your plants are going to grow extremely slow. they WILL use all the CO2 in the cabinet... and they need that to perform photosynthesis.

Wow! Seems like I need to go get some yeast! Do you still advise a fan for circulating the air, or will that just blow my CO2 away from the plants?

fan is a GOOD idea. The plants will use up all the of the co2 in the air surrounding the leaves, and without circulation, none of the other CO2 will reach them. I doubt you will see enormous yeild increases with the sugar water yeast combo over that of a good intake, outake, but since you dont have an intake, you should def see improvement with the added co2 bottles.

sine143 said:

CO2 definitly helps final yield, by as much as 50-100%. However, the main benefit her is that running a CO2 enriched environment allows you to run higher temperatures, which you will be doing. since you are sealed, you should be able to get adequate amounts of CO2 with just the fermentation method.

BTW, if you leave it as it is, and dont open the door like.... every lit hour, your plants are going to grow extremely slow. they WILL use all the CO2 in the cabinet... and they need that to perform photosynthesis.

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You say CO2 increases your yield 100%? uhhh no.

How would I be able to create an intake/exhaust and stay stealthy? I can't quite cut any holes in the door, walls or ceiling of this closet, so what ARE my options?

If you find a way let me know.....I would love to someone create venting with no holes. But alas I can not cute holes either.

So since I can't create an intake/exhaust vent, should I just go with DIY CO2 and have a fan circulating it around in there?

I mean you should do the CO2 thing whether you have venting or not. But a Co2 and one fan is prob not going to solve all your problems. If you have no venting at all then your going to just have stale air circulating around. I mean Co2 helps but its not the same as "fresh" air.

robbzilla said:

You say CO2 increases your yield 100%? uhhh no.

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I'm saying running CO2 on a professional system, with proper ppm readings, and deployment techniques WILL increase your yeild by a measurable amount. Do I think 100% is possible when compared directly to a very good grow without CO2? Hell no. Do I think 100% is possible when compared to a grow that is running NO INTAKE? sure... hell, I'd say 1000% yeild increase is possible over a grow with no intake air.

sine143 said:

I'm saying running CO2 on a professional system, with proper ppm readings, and deployment techniques WILL increase your yeild by a measurable amount. Do I think 100% is possible when compared directly to a very good grow without CO2? Hell no. Do I think 100% is possible when compared to a grow that is running NO INTAKE? sure... hell, I'd say 1000% yeild increase is possible over a grow with no intake air.

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Your gross overestimates are funny to me.

I play reggae music for my babies while they're awake, and I like to listen in, too...so I keep the door open while the lights are on. Any more advice?

I guess what I'm trying to get at is that without intake and no source of Co2, the plants are just going to die. I would honestly like to see a grow from seed to harvest with NO intake, and no source of co2 or fresh air.

Any bud at all is about as much increase in yeild (10billion% wat? ) as is feasibly possible over 0 yeild and dead plants.

I'm overestimating to stress the importance of fresh air for photosynthesis. Can we not agree that he will see A HUGE difference in running CO2 vs no intake, or better yet, just running intake air over no intake?

I was not intending fill peoples heads with wild dreams of a pound per plant harvest indoors in a closet. I was only trying to point out that fresh air is extremely important to plant growth, and the marginal gain you will have with intake + CO2 vs no intake in CO2 is going to be extremely evident, because in one situation, your plants will probably be dead long before harvest.

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If you are at least opening the door on the reg you should be fine. Now you just need to fix temp problems

Right on sine I feel you on that man. Ya thats what I do too though I keep the door open when the lights are on and close it when they are off when I'm flowering at least. I know it requires more "work" but really I'm in my garden everyday anyways and the door gets closed no fail.