Club 315w lec

GemuGrows said:

Yoda your crazy dude. I hate getting into stuff like this but you seriously have no idea what your talking about.

LEC 315's are amazing. They make very little heat and have a considerably larger light spread than you think. I swapped from 1000w's and 600w's to LEC 315's and i'll never look back.

Pathetic man. Seriously if your going to say people are gluing pubes on their face then your the one who needs to grow up.

Absolutely pathetic.

Enjoy your 600w hps? I have no problem with that; they are very good lights. But have you ever even used a LEC315? Have you ever even seen one in action?

Did your wife cheat on you with a LEC 315 or something? I can't imagine why the hell you have so much hate towards them when you clearly don't even know how to run a HPS properly.

God damn god damn. I don't know why you came into this thread to do a shitty job bragging; but seriously don't come back

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Bro your crazy, I asked if these can yield the same as a 600w hps, then people started giving false information about lights like a 600w hps doesn't cover a 4x4 (which they were designed to cover) just looking to replace my lights and I got attacked , gonna defend myself. I want to know if these will yield as much as my 600w hps because it looks like they will not if they can only cover a 3x3 I would need 8 of them to cover the same as my 3 600w hps. A 600w hps with proper reflector covers a 4x4, these seems to be about the same as a 400w hps which covers a 3x3...just looking at upgrading my lights to something better with less heat is all.

Yodaweed said:

Bro your crazy, I asked if these can yield the same as a 600w hps, then people started giving false information about lights like a 600w hps doesn't cover a 4x4 (which they were designed to cover) just looking to replace my lights and I got attacked , gonna defend myself. I want to know if these will yield as much as my 600w hps because it looks like they will not if they can only cover a 3x3 I would need 8 of them to cover the same as my 3 600w hps. A 600w hps with proper reflector covers a 4x4, these seems to be about the same as a 400w hps which covers a 3x3...just looking at upgrading my lights to something better with less heat is all.

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I gotta say man they are definitely better than a 400w HPS; Imo they are equal to about 500w of HPS with fantastic light penetration; but most importantly full spectrum. I've sold hundreds of HPS lights and i've sold about 50 LEC lights: My LEC customers always came back blown away by how well the lights performed; I've never had a HPS customer come back and rave about their HPS (obviously they are great lights, but LEC are fantastic lights).

In soil experienced growers will easily crop a pound per LEC 315, in hydro i've seen people crop 1.5 lbs per light. Personally i've gotten over a gram per watt and I've yet to fill out a canopy. The buds are frostier than HPS buds i've seen and grown; and the high is better (if you like sativa-like highs at least).

These lights arent worth hating on for any reason at all; you can throw more lights in a room so your plants get light from more angles than HPS; they are dirt cheap on the electricity bill; and they have light bleached more plants than any light i've ever seen. I've had to move up my LEC lights every time i've grown with them because my plants got way too much light- I've not even had that happen to that extent with HPS.

IMO the only HPS that will out perform LEC315 lights with a proper setup is Double Ended HPS; other than that the LEC315 is king. A properly lit LEC315 room will out yield any properly lit HPS room other than DE. And if you are looking at yield watt per watt; the LEC > HPS all day every day no matter how you look at it.

I'll likely never buy another HPS- the LEC lights are greatly superior.

Thats my 0.02; but that is an enormously researched/experienced 0.02 with both lights.

People wanna grow with HPS? Great; they are great lights go ahead. Looking for something amazing and different? LEC lights are great too.

No reason to hate on people for their light choice. Different spaces call for different lights; people have different preferences, etc... I've had happy customers with HPS and i've had happy customers with LEC and i've had 0 unhappy customers between either light.

One of the huge advantage single LEC lights have is that they are vertically hung; when you look at a LEC reflector instead of a magnum it looks like 5 lights are shining down on you.


This is all the same strain.
LEC buds (630w LEC 5x5 800g yield +100g trim) (closeup pics suck)


HPS buds (hps 3x3 ~20z yield)




Both lights are great. I see no reason to talk shit about either one.

GemuGrows said:

I gotta say man they are definitely better than a 400w HPS; Imo they are equal to about 500w of HPS with fantastic light penetration; but most importantly full spectrum. I've sold hundreds of HPS lights and i've sold about 50 LEC lights: My LEC customers always came back blown away by how well the lights performed; I've never had a HPS customer come back and rave about their HPS (obviously they are great lights, but LEC are fantastic lights).

In soil experienced growers will easily crop a pound per LEC 315, in hydro i've seen people crop 1.5 lbs per light. Personally i've gotten over a gram per watt and I've yet to fill out a canopy. The buds are frostier than HPS buds i've seen and grown; and the high is better (if you like sativa-like highs at least).

These lights arent worth hating on for any reason at all; you can throw more lights in a room so your plants get light from more angles than HPS; they are dirt cheap on the electricity bill; and they have light bleached more plants than any light i've ever seen. I've had to move up my LEC lights every time i've grown with them because my plants got way too much light- I've not even had that happen to that extent with HPS.

IMO the only HPS that will out perform LEC315 lights with a proper setup is Double Ended HPS; other than that the LEC315 is king. A properly lit LEC315 room will out yield any properly lit HPS room other than DE. And if you are looking at yield watt per watt; the LEC > HPS all day every day no matter how you look at it.

I'll likely never buy another HPS- the LEC lights are greatly superior.

Thats my 0.02; but that is an enormously researched/experienced 0.02 with both lights.

People wanna grow with HPS? Great; they are great lights go ahead. Looking for something amazing and different? LEC lights are great too.

No reason to hate on people for their light choice. Different spaces call for different lights; people have different preferences, etc... I've had happy customers with HPS and i've had happy customers with LEC and i've had 0 unhappy customers between either light.

One of the huge advantage single LEC lights have is that they are vertically hung; when you look at a LEC reflector instead of a magnum it looks like 5 lights are shining down on you.


This is all the same strain.
LEC buds (630w LEC 5x5 800g yield +100g trim) (closeup pics suck)
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HPS buds (hps 3x3 ~20z yield)

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I'm looking to cover at least a 5x10 area, I use 3x 600w hps to do it right now, I was looking at the air cooled 630 lec as a possible replacement, maybe two of those instead , how much heat does that make? I like the hps , I have leds (not super impressed) , and I really like the AC/DE 1000w DE as an option but I am unsure if could run that in my room cause I have limited height 7 foot ceilings. I have a 14,000 btu air conditioner and I air cool my hoods. Getting about 3 pounds per run trying to up the yields as much as I can.

Yodaweed said:

I'm looking to cover at least a 5x10 area, I use 3x 600w hps to do it right now, I was looking at the air cooled 630 lec as a possible replacement, maybe two of those instead , how much heat does that make? I like the hps , I have leds (not super impressed) , and I really like the AC/DE 1000w DE as an option but I am unsure if could run that in my room cause I have limited height 7 foot ceilings. I have a 14,000 btu air conditioner and I air cool my hoods. Getting about 3 pounds per run trying to up the yields as much as I can.

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You could get by with 2-3 LEC 315 lights in a 4x8; hell you could get by with 2x LEC 315 in a 4x8.

I see no reason to run air cooled; these lights will bleach your plants if they are too close. You need to keep them high up. Just have good exhaust on your space and fans cutting between your lights and your canopy's and you will be fine. These lights seriously make so little heat it will blow your mind.

5x10 I would do 4-5 LEC 315 lights at "max height" depending on how much head space you have.

An incredible option would be to run both LEC and HPS. You could do something like [ (LEC)-(600w magnum)-(LEC)-(600w magnum)-(LEC) ] and that would kick ass; I have a buddy running a [LEC-1000w-LEC] room that is performing incredibly well (its actually pretty insane).

Yodaweed said:

I'm looking to cover at least a 5x10 area, I use 3x 600w hps to do it right now, I was looking at the air cooled 630 lec as a possible replacement, maybe two of those instead , how much heat does that make? I like the hps , I have leds (not super impressed) , and I really like the AC/DE 1000w DE as an option but I am unsure if could run that in my room cause I have limited height 7 foot ceilings. I have a 14,000 btu air conditioner and I air cool my hoods. Getting about 3 pounds per run trying to up the yields as much as I can.

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Keep your 600W setups and wait for this bulb to drop:

http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/ceramic-hps.aspx

the #1 tip I have on having a solid yield of solid nug is:

Keep your plants "short". Like between 3-4 feet. Lolly pop them so you have 1-2 feet of nug and virtually nothing under that. If you max your canopy with 1-2 feet of nugs you will max your light in most spaces and end up with fat dank nugs. Sorry to re post this pic but literally just like this:


I do a severe lollypop right before bloom (~2-3 days before) and then another minor one about 3 weeks from flip to take off the last few branches that clearly won't get much light.

If you have good light coverage then that tip above is my #1 grower tip for ANYBODY (unless you have like a 25 light double ended HPS room; then feel free to grow trees and space them out)

I would like to consider swapping out my 600W HPS bulb for that.

When might it be available? What would be expected MSRP? (w/ Ballast)

Javadog said:

I would like to consider swapping out my 600W HPS bulb for that.

When might it be available? What would be expected MSRP? (w/ Ballast)

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Not sure yet waiting to hear every month is next month for a while now. I believe that ceramic HPS will change the game a bit and bring them back closer to competiting with COB's but that's just a huge guess on my end.

I am liking my transition to COB's so far in testing the 5K for veg and the 3K for flower.

Lot less heat than the 1K and 600w bulbs. Took the Portable A/C down yesterday. But if it was not for COB's my 5x9 would be lined with 315's and the veg tent would have one too simple as that. One of my favorite lights I have used to date aside from the Quantum Bad Boy 8 Bulb T5, which you just can't beat for a good all around light IMHO with the ability to change bulbs/spectrum so easily and cheaply.

There's no one simple box answer, every grow is different.

Evil-Mobo said:

Keep your 600W setups and wait for this bulb to drop:

http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/ceramic-hps.aspx

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*Ceramic HPS should only be operated on EYE HORTILUX Gold Series eBallast. - See more at: http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/ceramic-hps.aspx#sthash.AV8JpX8R.dpuf
kinda scares me putting that in hood with my galaxy grow amp ballast , its not an eye hortilux gold series eballast...anyone willing to test?

Also lumen output is really weak

http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/CHPS600-PerformanceSpecs.aspx

34k lumens initial output and I think a 600w hps bulb does 90k if I am not mistaken.

Yodaweed said:

*Ceramic HPS should only be operated on EYE HORTILUX Gold Series eBallast. - See more at: http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/ceramic-hps.aspx#sthash.AV8JpX8R.dpuf
kinda scares me putting that in hood with my galaxy grow amp ballast , its not an eye hortilux gold series eballast...anyone willing to test?

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I just had three gold series ballast blow on me in the last month, they felt so bad they upgraded me to a 1K platinum on the last one. They can go suck it with their 600's lol if that's the case. I am waiting for the bulb to be released to see if it will require their ballast or not. Me thinks they have a bad batch of 600's going out right now.

3 out of 4 went bad within 12 hours of use. Of course the good and fourth one I sold to a buddy lol..........

I was perfectly happy vegging with the Blue MH 600w but got tired of the ballast blowing so built the COB light which is rocking the veg tent so far and has the T5 collecting dust........

Yodaweed said:

*Ceramic HPS should only be operated on EYE HORTILUX Gold Series eBallast. - See more at: http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/ceramic-hps.aspx#sthash.AV8JpX8R.dpuf
kinda scares me putting that in hood with my galaxy grow amp ballast , its not an eye hortilux gold series eballast...anyone willing to test?

Also lumen output is really weak

http://www.eyehortilux.com/products/CHPS600-PerformanceSpecs.aspx

34k lumens initial output and I think a 600w hps bulb does 90k if I am not mistaken.

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Not a fair comparison because different light technologies in the bulbs remember that. We have all already established that depending on grower ability the one 315 is almost as good as a 600W.................

If it was all about lumens only we'd all be rocking T5's right......?

Yodaweed said:

Bro your crazy, I asked if these can yield the same as a 600w hps, then people started giving false information about lights like a 600w hps doesn't cover a 4x4 (which they were designed to cover) just looking to replace my lights and I got attacked , gonna defend myself. I want to know if these will yield as much as my 600w hps because it looks like they will not if they can only cover a 3x3 I would need 8 of them to cover the same as my 3 600w hps. A 600w hps with proper reflector covers a 4x4, these seems to be about the same as a 400w hps which covers a 3x3...just looking at upgrading my lights to something better with less heat is all.

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from my experience, in my 3x4 my 315 is lacking. maybe 2.5 by 2.5 would be killer.

if i had the space, i would do plants in a circle aroudn a double stacked 315. vert grow would be great for the 315

Evil-Mobo said:

I just had three gold series ballast blow on me in the last month, they felt so bad they upgraded me to a 1K platinum on the last one. They can go suck it with their 600's lol if that's the case. I am waiting for the bulb to be released to see if it will require their ballast or not. Me thinks they have a bad batch of 600's going out right now.

3 out of 4 went bad within 12 hours of use. Of course the good and fourth one I sold to a buddy lol..........

I was perfectly happy vegging with the Blue MH 600w but got tired of the ballast blowing so built the COB light which is rocking the veg tent so far and has the T5 collecting dust........

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Yeah their ballasts suck, I wouldn't buy one, these galaxy grow-amps work wonders, they got a over drive mode too 10% more if you into that type thing. I had a quantum ballast before this one, it blew in like 2 weeks and I traded up for this one and that was years ago.

Evil-Mobo said:

Not a fair comparison because different light technologies in the bulbs remember that. We have all already established that depending on grower ability the one 315 is almost as good as a 600W.................

If it was all about lumens only we'd all be rocking T5's right......?

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http://hydrobuilder.com/sun-system-630-watt-air-cooled-8-lec-fixture-with-dual-4-200k-lamps-208-240-volt.html
This is what I been looking at to replace my hps with, two of those instead of 3 600w hps.

rkymtnman said:

from my experience, in my 3x4 my 315 is lacking. maybe 2.5 by 2.5 would be killer.

if i had the space, i would do plants in a circle aroudn a double stacked 315. vert grow would be great for the 315

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How's the heat in that space? You vent or air condition? How much does that raise the temps during lights on?

rkymtnman said:

from my experience, in my 3x4 my 315 is lacking. maybe 2.5 by 2.5 would be killer.

if i had the space, i would do plants in a circle aroudn a double stacked 315. vert grow would be great for the 315

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and just to reply to myself, check out heath robinson vert grows with a 600 hps. imagine if he had 2 315s instead of the one 600.

I haven't messed with the 630's myself but there's a couple guys on you tube running them with good success.

I just think two 315's gives you better flexibility if running different strains etc and you can remote mount the ballasts to help with heat too. This is the same thinking why I built my 8 cob light as 2 separate bars so I can adjust more and each half dims independent of each other. If you do run the 630's then I'd like to see the results myself. I know there's a member here who has a grow log running one in a 4x4 and rocking the house forgot his username would have to search.

Yodaweed said:

How's the heat in that space? You vent or air condition? How much does that raise the temps during lights on?

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the room is under ground so it stays pretty cool on it's own. no A/c for sure. like i said, i realized last grow that the 315 wasnt quite enough so i added a solarstorm 400 to the room

havent run it yet but the heat should be managebale even if i have to bring in some fresh air

GemuGrows said:

Yoda your crazy dude. I hate getting into stuff like this but you seriously have no idea what your talking about.

LEC 315's are amazing. They make very little heat and have a considerably larger light spread than you think. I swapped from 1000w's and 600w's to LEC 315's and i'll never look back.

Pathetic man. Seriously if your going to say people are gluing pubes on their face then your the one who needs to grow up.

Absolutely pathetic.

Enjoy your 600w hps? I have no problem with that; they are very good lights. But have you ever even used a LEC315? Have you ever even seen one in action?

Did your wife cheat on you with a LEC 315 or something? I can't imagine why the hell you have so much hate towards them when you clearly don't even know how to run a HPS properly.

God damn god damn. I don't know why you came into this thread to do a shitty job bragging; but seriously don't come back

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This is funny, "Did your wife cheat on you with a LEC 315 or something?"
Doesn't every one here smoke weed??

Yodaweed said:

http://hydrobuilder.com/sun-system-630-watt-air-cooled-8-lec-fixture-with-dual-4-200k-lamps-208-240-volt.html
This is what I been looking at to replace my hps with, two of those instead of 3 600w hps.

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i replaced my 3×1k with 3×630 pulled aroumd the same, may be a little less do to the strains. if u get the lamp without the shield on them.

Sire Killem All said:

i replaced my 3×1k with 3×630 pulled aroumd the same, may be a little less do to the strains. if u get the lamp without the shield on them.

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How much heat are those making? Do you use a tent ? Do you air condition? Thanks.