cmh or hps question

got my cmh because im sick of tubes, spiral cfls, and rigging up homemade lightboards. i want to streamline the grow and reduce the overall footprint and wiring/cooling. Having already had invested in the 400 mag hps ballast it is the logical solution. my 3oow of 2700k have outperformed my 400w 2100k bulb in the past, but each have there place in my arsenal.

i dont think the op posted his hps wattage * ill read back again. seems like the only reasonable cmh is the 400w (vs the 250s, and the small wattage bulbs are more expensive per piece, at a 3000k rating, and unbelieveably expensive to find housings and ballast solutions for)

I think too many people think that the peak absortion frequencies are the only usable frequencies. Outdoor plants always seem to outgrow ones replicated in indoor environments. Maybe it is shear light, maybe it is the uv, the ultimate root depth, characteristics of natural soil geology and chemical composition, the variable angle of the suns light, who knows how many other variables we could all list.

Has anyone ever wondered which works better for in vitro vs in vivo grows?
In flower, maybe the cmh will be better for soil (available silicates in soil), while hps could be simpler in a soil-less, hydro,aero type of set up(more refined and 100% supplemented chemical nutrition.)
Also I have a feeling this cmh will run better for my sativa doms phenos, unless they go all leaf on me :mrgreen:




I think this is a reasonably small investment, that will get you from a to b with low maintenance involved. and if you really dont like it you can get a 400w hps bulb from the homedePOT for like 13$ c: if you cannt net back $100 from a grow (saved by not having to buy ofcourse) this might not be the right hobby
 

Wetdog

Well-Known Member
the info on the cmh says you can only use it in a magnetic hps ballast. no digital ballast or anything. so it works fine in the mh huh ?


soil
About a year or so ago they developed a bulb that will run in a magnetic MH ballast. This is pretty recent.

There is one digi ballast that is designed to run a CMH, from GE, IIRC, but stupid expensive and I really haven't looked into it. But normal digi's, no.

www.advancedtechlighting.com

Lots of technical info here ^^^

Wet
 

espoker19

Active Member
got my cmh because im sick of tubes, spiral cfls, and rigging up homemade lightboards. i want to streamline the grow and reduce the overall footprint and wiring/cooling. Having already had invested in the 400 mag hps ballast it is the logical solution. my 3oow of 2700k have outperformed my 400w 2100k bulb in the past, but each have there place in my arsenal.

i dont think the op posted his hps wattage * ill read back again. seems like the only reasonable cmh is the 400w (vs the 250s, and the small wattage bulbs are more expensive per piece, at a 3000k rating, and unbelieveably expensive to find housings and ballast solutions for)

I think too many people think that the peak absortion frequencies are the only usable frequencies. Outdoor plants always seem to outgrow ones replicated in indoor environments. Maybe it is shear light, maybe it is the uv, the ultimate root depth, characteristics of natural soil geology and chemical composition, the variable angle of the suns light, who knows how many other variables we could all list.

Has anyone ever wondered which works better for in vitro vs in vivo grows?
In flower, maybe the cmh will be better for soil (available silicates in soil), while hps could be simpler in a soil-less, hydro,aero type of set up(more refined and 100% supplemented chemical nutrition.)
Also I have a feeling this cmh will run better for my sativa doms phenos, unless they go all leaf on me :mrgreen:




I think this is a reasonably small investment, that will get you from a to b with low maintenance involved. and if you really dont like it you can get a 400w hps bulb from the homedePOT for like 13$ c: if you cannt net back $100 from a grow (saved by not having to buy ofcourse) this might not be the right hobby
GANGSTA. Not sure if you're still on here, and I know this thread is probably dead, but still one of the most intelligent posts I have ever seen on this site. I'm not a horticulturalist nor am I someone who has grown for 40 years but I can tell you there are a metric fuck ton of people on this website who think they are PhD graduate students in botany. There are so many variables involved in plant growth (especially outdoor), that it seems amazing to me someone would immediately dismiss certain light sources because they aren't focused solely in the "peak" wavelengths. Plants have spent 3 billion+ years evolving with the sun, the sun is a FULL (i.e. "useless") spectrum source. It would seem improbable to me that a full spectrum light is useless.
 
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