Coco and ph levels

If you dont have the answer to my first question, please do not fill anymore unrelatable messages.

I simply want to know does it go up or down. Just please lets only talk about that.

nobody here has done the measurements.

you do it and then you'll know. then tell us. i'm curious but not enough to do the work.

can you just please do that?

You dont have to act like that.

If this is getting crazy, you can stop commenting on this topic. Especially if you dont have the answer to the first question on the first message;

Does the hp go up or down over time?

Trickster52 said:

Does the hp go up or down over time?

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i would agree.

it definitely goes up and down over time.

that's all you wanted answered? that was easy.

It's been over 2 days with 44 posts......obviously nobody has the answer you're looking for dude.
Nobody is intentionally withholding the answer to your question just to give you a hard time.
Like @rkymtnman said.......do the work to figure it out..........we don't know (and really don't care).

If you dont have the answer, dont try to help simple as that. No one has easy time following or participate if you all the time flood with that irrelevant shit. Somebody has atleast has been thinking about this, some expert for sure knows this.

MickFoster said:

It's been over 2 days with 44 posts......obviously nobody has the answer you're looking for dude.
Nobody is intentionally withholding the answer to your question just to give you a hard time.
Like @rkymtnman said.......do the work to figure it out..........we don't know (and really don't care).

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like i said, i'd be curious now that i'm growing in coco . but wouldn't spend a minute to figure it out: i'd be happy to read his results.

Trickster52 said:

some expert for sure knows this

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how'd you like a chance to be an expert? your time to shine, kid!!!

Trickster52 said:

If you dont have the answer, dont try to help simple as that. No one has easy time following or participate if you all the time flood with that irrelevant shit. Somebody has atleast has been thinking about this, some expert for sure knows this.

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The answer is irrelevant when you properly care for your coco. That’s why no one cares or knows. It doesn’t fluctuate much over 24 hrs so why does it matter?

twentyeight.threefive said:

The answer is irrelevant when you properly care for your coco. That’s why no one cares or knows. It doesn’t fluctuate much over 24 hrs so why does it matter?

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Irrelevant to you not to me. I want to know, does it go up or down. Lets just leave it at that.

Trickster52 said:

does it go up and down

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yes it does.

If the plants are healthy who gives a damn if the pH goes up or down?

I grow in coco. Sometimes drain to waste and sometimes no runoff at all using Blumats. The only pH measurement I care about is the nutrient solution I'm giving the plants. They are always healthy so if the pH at the root zone in the coco is 8.5 or 5.2 i could care less. All that matters is how the plants are growing. Any pH fluctuations in the coco are irrelevant. I've never done a slurry test or checked runoff and I never will.

I set the pH of the nutrient solution and that's it and that's I'll I'll ever do or care about. Nothing else matters as far as I'm concerned. It could go up or down. Depends what you're putting in your nutrient solution.

Trickster52 said:

If you dont have the answer to my first question, please do not fill anymore unrelatable messages.

I simply want to know does it go up or down. Just please lets only talk about that.

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I actually gave you the answer regarding pH drift if you bothered to read

"Them read about nitrate vs. ammonium Nitrogen sources and their effect on pH"

Cant you just tell here if you know something?

Trickster52 said:

Irrelevant to you not to me. I want to know, does it go up or down. Lets just leave it at that.

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Irrelevant in the fact that the knowledge you’re looking for has no applicable purpose. You want to know just because I guess.

This one man delivered. Because of this irrelevant shit you flooded its hard to follow and make good conversation. Or at least i got something;

"Higher nitrate concentrations can lower the pH, making the water more acidic. Most aquatic life can only tolerate a pH from 6-9, but if pH fluctuates out of this range, it could signal either a change in nitrate concentration or a change in dissolved carbon dioxide concentration."

Trickster52 said:

"Then read about nitrate vs. ammonium Nitrogen sources and their effect on pH"

Cant you just tell here if you know something?

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Trickster52 said:

This one man delivered. Because of this irrelevant shit you flooded its hard to follow and make good conversation. Or at least i got something;

"Higher nitrate concentrations can lower the pH, making the water more acidic. Most aquatic life can only tolerate a pH from 6-9, but if pH fluctuates out of this range, it could signal either a change in nitrate concentration or a change in dissolved carbon dioxide concentration."

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You're not gonna endear yourself to anyone with your shitty attitude

Most hydro nutes are 90%+ Nitrate (NO3-) and a small % of Ammoniacal (NH4+)

If roots uptake nitrates, they release bicarbonates - pH rises
If roots uptake Ammoniacal, they release a proton - pH drops

pH generally rises as Nitrogen is used in hydro mediums as they're predominately Nitrate-based

Your cut and paste is irrelevant to rootzone pH

Billy the Mountain said:

You're not gonna endear yourself to anyone with your shitty attitude

Most hydro nutes are 90%+ Nitrate (NO3-) and a small % of Ammoniacal (NH4+)

If roots uptake nitrates, they release bicarbonates - pH rises
If roots uptake Ammoniacal, they release a proton - pH drops

pH generally rises as Nitrogen is used in hydro mediums as they're predominately Nitrate-based

Your cut and paste is irrelevant to rootzone pH

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My shitty attitude right on

im grateful for the information you provided, i truly am.

And you flooders, ... well, you know yourself, good luck as you say

Trickster52 said:

You dont have to act like that.

If this is getting crazy, you can stop commenting on this topic. Especially if you dont have the answer to the first question on the first message;

Does the hp go up or down over time?

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Nor do you.
Please quit reporting responses that you don't agree with. Most of the people are giving you honest answers saying it probably doesn't matter.
You asked for advice & then bitch about what you get.
SMFH.

Please just stop!

PopAndSonGrows said:

You SHOULD water coco daily. Sure, you can skip a day here & there, but----and this is just my opinion based on doing so----it can adversely affect the root zone, you risk too much root material decaying and breaking down which is great for soil. What you're kinda forgetting is coco isn't soil, coco is hydroponics, and so by having a bunch of decaying matter within your coco you're potentially inviting pests. I think it also defeats the purpose of coco growing by treating it like soil.

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This is how I've been growing in coco for years (watering daily), but I recently had a huge fungus gnat infestation. (The gnat infestation began when I had a few pots in my room that were in soil, and that soil turned out to have gnat eggs in it.)

So I've been watering less to discourage gnats from laying eggs. Now I've been having other issues that very much looked like pH issues, which I've never had before. Tested pH today; it was perfect. (5.8-6.0)

Could my problem be simply that I'm not watering enough? I have never had a problem with my plants before, and I've been doing this for 13 years.