Companion plants for weed

st0wandgrow · Dec 10, 2014

Great idea. I plant a cover crop in between rounds and then leave it be for a while until it gets shaded out by the mj plant, then I chop and drop and leave it as a mulch. I like using legumes and clover, both nitrogen fixers. I've used vetch, wheat grass, rye, and alfalfa as well.

I'd really like to plant something that I can harvest and eat though. Mushrooms would be cool!

farm hippie · Dec 10, 2014

Probably a silly question but if you grow in soil you do use worms in your container don't you?

farm hippie · Dec 10, 2014

st0wandgrow said:
Great idea. I plant a cover crop in between rounds and then leave it be for a while until it gets shaded out by the mj plant, then I chop and drop and leave it as a mulch. I like using legumes and clover, both nitrogen fixers. I've used vetch, wheat grass, rye, and alfalfa as well.

I'd really like to plant something that I can harvest and eat though. Mushrooms would be cool!

I meant my home food garden is done that way. I live in an unfriendly state so I only do an occasional stealth grow outdoors.

mudballs · Dec 10, 2014

breeding for potency or structure is just adding the properties that's already there.one strain is super dank and another is heat resistant so they breed in hopes of getting super dank heat resistant progeny. then grow the new generation and select for desirable traits, rinse and repeat. now for the hard part you are discussing.changing a plant from heat resistant to cold hardy takes a lot of generations. no hybrids no cross breeding, straight up changing.that's where you can't get it done in a lifetime, imo.

farm hippie · Dec 10, 2014

mudballs said:
breeding for potency or structure is just adding the properties that's already there.one strain is super dank and another is heat resistant so they breed in hopes of getting super dank heat resistant progeny. then grow the new generation and select for desirable traits, rinse and repeat. now for the hard part you are discussing.changing a plant from heat resistant to cold hardy takes a lot of generations. no hybrids no cross breeding, straight up changing.that's where you can't get it done in a lifetime, imo.

Got it. I'm definitely not a breeding expert. But I was not talking about changing a sativa to like indica enviro. I was talking about finding plants that respond better to the subtleties of my specific micro environment and then using selection to fine tune

So you are correct I need to get the system down first then work on breeding to fit that

farm hippie · Dec 10, 2014

Btw do you grow in soil and if so do you put earthworms in your pots with your pot? If not you should try it. They will help tell you when things aren't right

SnapsProvolone · Dec 10, 2014

Heard of ppl companion planting stinging nettle

st0wandgrow · Dec 10, 2014

farm hippie said:
I meant my home food garden is done that way. I live in an unfriendly state so I only do an occasional stealth grow outdoors.

Eh? The thread title is "Companion Plants for Weed".

I'm confused....

farm hippie · Dec 10, 2014

If your soil is healthy the worms will thrive and then you have a constant supply of castings along with about a million other benifits the worms provide to your plants. They are way better soil managers than we could ever be

mudballs · Dec 10, 2014

yeah im a soil guy. i dabble in gardening too like you. raised beds no borders. compost leaves and grass clippings during winter. i don't crop rotate just spark up the old roto tiller and have at it. as for worms in pots nah they stay outside in garden. i transplant once and 30days later everything gets chucked in a pile out back.i do myco amend my store bought potting soil tho. firm believer in subsoil ecosystem health, just not worms. reason i joined riu is time to up my game. gonna go dwc next grow.good luck with the project tho. sounds like you should get frogs and lizatds in there too to deal with insects.

farm hippie · Dec 10, 2014

st0wandgrow said:
Eh? The thread title is "Companion Plants for Weed".

I'm confused....

i grow indoors mostly I was talking about where I will get the soil for the 4x4 indoor environment I'm going to set up. In which I will plant companions and stuff

mudballs · Dec 10, 2014

check out nut farmers and peach orchard cultivar pioneers. they breed for desirable traits but it takes so long they're dead before they even know if it worked. there may be info in that genre for you to pick through and learn.

farm hippie · Dec 10, 2014

mudballs said:
yeah im a soil guy. i dabble in gardening too like you. raised beds no borders. compost leaves and grass clippings during winter. i don't crop rotate just spark up the old roto tiller and have at it. as for worms in pots nah they stay outside in garden. i transplant once and 30days later everything gets chucked in a pile out back.i do myco amend my store bought potting soil tho. firm believer in subsoil ecosystem health, just not worms. reason i joined riu is time to up my game. gonna go dwc next grow.good luck with the project tho. sounds like you should get frogs and lizatds in there too to deal with insects.

Funny we buy worm castings to put in our soil. Wanna up your soils microbiology thus health? Just add worms. They won't get out and if they are trying to that means something isn't right. They will also turn the soil around your roots increasing oxygen to roots and bunches of other stuff.
Not to sound preachy but toto tillers

farm hippie · Dec 10, 2014

farm hippie said:
Funny we buy worm castings to put in our soil. Wanna up your soils microbiology thus health? Just add worms. They won't get out and if they are trying to that means something isn't right. They will also turn the soil around your roots increasing oxygen to roots and bunches of other stuff.
Not to sound preachy but toto tillers

I meant Roto tillers creat hard pan just under the depth tines go. That was a major contributor to the dust bowl

st0wandgrow · Dec 10, 2014

farm hippie said:
Funny we buy worm castings to put in our soil. Wanna up your soils microbiology thus health? Just add worms. They won't get out and if they are trying to that means something isn't right. They will also turn the soil around your roots increasing oxygen to roots and bunches of other stuff.
Not to sound preachy but toto tillers

I don't intentionally put worms in my marijuana containers, but when I add castings to my soil (or top dress) cocoons and babies always make it through the sift and end up in my no-till conatiners. They are great for aeration, soil structure, and obviously add castings as they do their thing.

farm hippie · Dec 10, 2014

mudballs said:
check out nut farmers and peach orchard cultivar pioneers. they breed for desirable traits but it takes so long they're dead before they even know if it worked. there may be info in that genre for you to pick through and learn.

good idea except trees are yearly in generation and weed can be easily three generations a year. So what a pot breeder can do in one year a fruit breeder needs about six to nine years to acomplish

farm hippie · Dec 10, 2014

st0wandgrow said:
I don't intentionally put worms in my marijuana containers, but when I add castings to my soil (or top dress) cocoons and babies always make it through the sift and end up in my no-till conatiners. They are great for aeration, soil structure, and obviously add castings as they do their thing.

plus if you recycle the worms into your next grow they will automatically introduce the micro organisms specific to pot root health

farm hippie · Dec 10, 2014

My first grow was in 1989 and I've grown many methods of hydro and soil. I actually accidentally discovered earthworms in containers growing peppers in pots. So I guess besides companion plant companion soil dwellers as well eh?

mudballs · Dec 10, 2014

farm hippie said:
good idea except trees are yearly in generation and weed can be easily three generations a year. So what a pot breeder can do in one year a fruit breeder needs about six to nine years to acomplish

it was for you to learn about breeding in general is all. what cues do they go after? why they do what they do? they generally aren't cross breeding. so you would be surprised at what you would get exposed to that normal marijuana breeders don't talk about because they aren't trying to do what you're interested in. nut and peach cultivar breeders are doing exactly what you want. changing a particular strain to a different climatology or soil condition.i tried to answer your questions using info from both genres. it's your turn

farm hippie · Dec 10, 2014

mudballs said:
it was for you to learn about breeding in general is all. what cues do they go after? why they do what they do? they generally aren't cross breeding. so you would be surprised at what you would get exposed to that normal marijuana breeders don't talk about because they aren't trying to do what you're interested in. nut and peach cultivar breeders are doing exactly what you want. changing a particular strain to a different climatology or soil condition.i tried to answer your questions using info from both genres. it's your turn

On the road so sorry for the lag. Good points. You are right. Open minds make good ground for learning. Which is easy to forget sometimes. My first hydro grow was in 89 and the only info I could find had nothing to do with growing weed so I had to extrapolate to pot. Have learned a lot from non weed farmers as well.
The fun is in the journey anyway. One thing I do know is get the ball rolling and let the project guide and teach me.

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