Dapper_Dillinger
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Check out gavita 1700e i dont know if they have one light for that size but i think a guy i know is replacing 4x 315cmh big kahuna hoods with that
Could someone recommend me an LED lamp for 12x12 space
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Rocket Soul
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OP:
Do you need to follow any type of code?
Whats your budget?
Whats the ceiling height?
Cooling solution and climate? Vented/ac? Hot/cold climate?
Most importantly whats your budget for lights?
Do you need to follow any type of code?
Whats your budget?
Whats the ceiling height?
Cooling solution and climate? Vented/ac? Hot/cold climate?
Most importantly whats your budget for lights?
steveydvee
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7 feet ceiling height. Minisplit 36k btu. Cold climate. As far as budget, anything cost efficient. I'm pretty sold on the Alibaba lights.
Rocket Soul
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Cost efficient is the goal of any budget really but doesnt tell anyone how much you have to spend, theres no way to say if this is even possible unless you drop some kinda number. Remember im not selling anything, so i dont care if your spending 5000 or 15000 but i need some kinda of number to work with.
7 feet ceiling height is not a lot and means a spread out, bars/strips or larger boards like the Fotops. Have you thought of how to hang? What is your desired hanging height? Do you need to lower and raise the light? Do you picture this as 9 4x4 fixtures?
7 feet ceiling height is not a lot and means a spread out, bars/strips or larger boards like the Fotops. Have you thought of how to hang? What is your desired hanging height? Do you need to lower and raise the light? Do you picture this as 9 4x4 fixtures?
Rocket Soul
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If you dont wanna upgrade this youll be stuck with 8x 600w drivers which will put you around 33w per foot, decent but not like 1000w of DE over a 4x4.
You might be able to score some 1000w drivers but i have no experience with those.
steveydvee
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Ah well a budget around 5000-10000 seems about right. Currently I just have 2x4 wood mounted onto my studs. Okay, so did a measurement. About 7 feet at the mount and 2 feet in height for the notill fabric pots. So I have about 5 feet of growing space without subtracting from the distance the light needs to be placed from the plants and the type of mounting supplied. I can ideally envision 8 lights each covering a 4 x 4 and the remaining space for my other equipment such as co2 tank, dehum, humidifier and so forth. But I am open to new lighting schemes if that means I'll be able to optimize yield in my 12x12. The room is a sealed co2 controlled room so I can really push the amount of light my plants can absorb. Thanks for your time.
Looking for something that'll stay around for awhile and optimize my grow space. So the more wattage without overkilling my plants and really pushing the envelope would be what I would like to accomplish. O fcourse this is no cheap or small feat BUT that's the idea behind it and thankfully finding Alibaba makes it feel like I could accomplish this without 20k+Another note; the company I got in touch with on Alibaba supplies customizable 600-1200 watts bar-style LED using:
Samsung LM301B + 660nm osram red light. And Meanwell drivers.
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Rocket Soul
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If youre in no till im not sure id recommend a pure led system. Leds are not good for transpiration, they dont put heat on the cannopy and this can lead to some deficiencies which are very hard to control in no till. Is hard to make calcium and magnesium available rapidly in a no till situation. Id check up on herbin farmers youtube, his second setup had a lot of problems with bleaching in no till.
Id actually be more inclined to go with Nukas advice a page back: qb96 from hlg, removing some of your old hps and micmxing led and hps.
Qb96 would be very good for a mixed up situation: small form-factor but high power so it could hang at same height as your hps.
Id actually be more inclined to go with Nukas advice a page back: qb96 from hlg, removing some of your old hps and micmxing led and hps.
Qb96 would be very good for a mixed up situation: small form-factor but high power so it could hang at same height as your hps.
steveydvee
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I have climate control(mini split), wouldn't optimal temperature of 80*F promote transpiration anyways regardless of leaf surface temp? I feel like with LED the leaf surface temperature would be much easier to dial in my VPD because those old HPS has a lot of hotspots and sometimes the leaf temperature could be upwards of 10*F different from the actual room temperature. I could be misinformed tho.. so correct me if I'm wrong.
Rocket Soul
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Id go for +81F for leds, maybe with a full cycle spectrum like 3500k in stead of 3000k.
But in the end, if you have too little calcium and magnesium available no amount of transpiration is enough. Can you use calmag with your no tills?
jonnynobody
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That's a sexy piece of equipment right there sir.Ah well a budget around 5000-10000 seems about right. Currently I just have 2x4 wood mounted onto my studs. Okay, so did a measurement. About 7 feet at the mount and 2 feet in height for the notill fabric pots. So I have about 5 feet of growing space without subtracting from the distance the light needs to be placed from the plants and the type of mounting supplied. I can ideally envision 8 lights each covering a 4 x 4 and the remaining space for my other equipment such as co2 tank, dehum, humidifier and so forth. But I am open to new lighting schemes if that means I'll be able to optimize yield in my 12x12. The room is a sealed co2 controlled room so I can really push the amount of light my plants can absorb. Thanks for your time.
Another note; the company I got in touch with on Alibaba supplies customizable 600-1200 watts bar-style LED using:
Samsung LM301B + 660nm osram red light. And Meanwell drivers.
SLT Lighting Technology (Dongguan) Co., Ltd. - LED Street Light, LED High Bay Light
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Dapper_Dillinger
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If you are looking for Samsung lm 301b/h diodes look at the viparspectra XS 4000, i have the xs 2000 it uses meanwell hlg pulling 260 watts from the wall i heard that the driver is capable of being turned up to 300 watts, also fast shipping and great quality all ready assembled for other brands using the XLg series driverAh well a budget around 5000-10000 seems about right. Currently I just have 2x4 wood mounted onto my studs. Okay, so did a measurement. About 7 feet at the mount and 2 feet in height for the notill fabric pots. So I have about 5 feet of growing space without subtracting from the distance the light needs to be placed from the plants and the type of mounting supplied. I can ideally envision 8 lights each covering a 4 x 4 and the remaining space for my other equipment such as co2 tank, dehum, humidifier and so forth. But I am open to new lighting schemes if that means I'll be able to optimize yield in my 12x12. The room is a sealed co2 controlled room so I can really push the amount of light my plants can absorb. Thanks for your time.
Another note; the company I got in touch with on Alibaba supplies customizable 600-1200 watts bar-style LED using:
Samsung LM301B + 660nm osram red light. And Meanwell drivers.
SLT Lighting Technology (Dongguan) Co., Ltd. - LED Street Light, LED High Bay Light
SLT Lighting Technology (Dongguan) Co., Ltd., Experts in Manufacturing and Exporting LED Street Light, LED High Bay Light and 0 more Products.
steveydvee
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Okay so I'm pretty sure this is it guys.
The 1000w LED version. In replacement for my 1000w hps. Overkill? From what I'm seeing the overlap lighting will make it optimal to achieve 1000 PPFD across the entire room.
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The 1000w LED version. In replacement for my 1000w hps. Overkill? From what I'm seeing the overlap lighting will make it optimal to achieve 1000 PPFD across the entire room.
Check out the newest post by migrolights on instagram. That light called the geek beast or something like that seems very interesting as the corners must have more diodes because they are pushing 1000 in the corners. I have never seen such an even chart like that in the corners.
hybridway2
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Do you want to buy last yrs tech from Gavita, fluence or the other x3 dozens last yrs tech copies from Alibaba with almost no guarantee? Either way they are all the same spectrum, thermal mgnt n parts so claimed. All so Blah.nothing to them yet people split hairs. Lol!
steveydvee
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Alibaba has a 5 year warranty and I understand that they released the lm301h but that’s just out of my budget.
I bought some de cmh light off baba and while yes they have warranty the shipping back and forth for warranty replacement is not covered and atleast on those lights it would have been as much as ordering new ones.
Flashman420
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How was the final yield?