Crop sabotage?

ttystikk

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I would think that in a legal state, if what you say is true, the price would fall and quality would go up but has that happened? I have no clue what it's worth in Calarado but have prices dropped? Why would the price in say Europe effect the price here? Again I would love to see it drop to a point where it makes no sense to grow my own (indoors) but don't see it happening.
As a Colorado resident working in the cannabis industry, I feel qualified to comment;

1. It's legal here, but all surrounding states aren't- leading to excess demand due to all the out of state plates in dispensary parking lots.

2. Cannabis is perhaps the world's most tightly regulated crop, both in terms of possession such as plant counts and cultivation, like seed to sale tracking and ever tightening parameters on production techniques and facilities, like security.

3. This regulatory environment, including permitting and taxes not mentioned above, drives up cost and gets reflected in the bottom line

4. Much of the regulations basically require indoor production, and the current technology indoors is inefficient and power/labor/space intensive. It is this part of the puzzle my own company is being built to address.

5. Colorado's temperate climate allows for only one outdoor crop a year, hardly enough to satisfy year round demand.

6. Many individual counties and municipalities have banned commercial production altogether, raising costs in places that do, due to competition for scarce warehouse space.

All these factors combine to support the current pricing- and to some extent or another will continue for the foreseeable future.
 

Vnsmkr

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Uh huh... Talk to me about cropping out in the monsoon!
Covered greenhouse take care of that though. Those come fucking cheap. And if Id had a job this whole monsoon (ie money to build a proper roof), probably would have never fucked with me once.....
 

ttystikk

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Covered greenhouse take care of that though. Those come fucking cheap. And if Id had a job this whole monsoon (ie money to build a proper roof), probably would have never fucked with me once.....
If cannabis becomes legal in VN, I'm packing my bags.

Then again, if you find me a classy hottie I'll come running, too!

Lol
 

Budley Doright

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As a Colorado resident working in the cannabis industry, I feel qualified to comment;

1. It's legal here, but all surrounding states aren't- leading to excess demand due to all the out of state plates in dispensary parking lots.

2. Cannabis is perhaps the world's most tightly regulated crop, both in terms of possession such as plant counts and cultivation, like seed to sale tracking and ever tightening parameters on production techniques and facilities, like security.

3. This regulatory environment, including permitting and taxes not mentioned above, drives up cost and gets reflected in the bottom line

4. Much of the regulations basically require indoor production, and the current technology indoors is inefficient and power/labor/space intensive. It is this part of the puzzle my own company is being built to address.

5. Colorado's temperate climate allows for only one outdoor crop a year, hardly enough to satisfy year round demand.

6. Many individual counties and municipalities have banned commercial production altogether, raising costs in places that do, due to competition for scarce warehouse space.

All these factors combine to support the current pricing- and to some extent or another will continue for the foreseeable future.
I also hear there is a lot of traffic heading east and south, trunks full of Colorado green. I also hear it's like running a gauntlet of doom lol. Partners kid decided to head out on his own following in his old mans footsteps, made it just past the state line :(. They shipped him back here after a year :).
 

ttystikk

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I also hear there is a lot of traffic heading east and south, trunks full of Colorado green. I also hear it's like running a gauntlet of doom lol. Partners kid decided to head out on his own following in his old mans footsteps, made it just past the state line :(. They shipped him back here after a year :).
Too much money to be made jailing non violent drug 'offenders' carrying a harmless plant.
 

Overmonitor

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At least some states are legalizing it. In Ohio, where I am from (I moved away to the golden land of Denver and I will never look back) they almost legalized it recreationally this year but it failed. So the state legislature decided to simply decriminalize it, taking the vote out of the hands of the people. Now there is very little chance of recreational support and the state itself has no motivation to try to enact laws for medicinal use in a timely manner, meaning they effectively filibustered the passage of marijuana laws in Ohio. Since decriminalization the momentum of the movement has basically died while the public tries to figure out exactly what the state did.

And even here in Colorado I got out of the cannabis industry (officially, unofficially I still do my work) because of the stigma around it. As a college grad from a legit 4 year university and a solid resume I had a hell of a time finding good work outside of the industry, even with 2 years as inventory manager of one of the largest dispensary chains in the world under my belt.
 

ttystikk

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At least some states are legalizing it. In Ohio, where I am from (I moved away to the golden land of Denver and I will never look back) they almost legalized it recreationally this year but it failed. So the state legislature decided to simply decriminalize it, taking the vote out of the hands of the people. Now there is very little chance of recreational support and the state itself has no motivation to try to enact laws for medicinal use in a timely manner, meaning they effectively filibustered the passage of marijuana laws in Ohio. Since decriminalization the momentum of the movement has basically died while the public tries to figure out exactly what the state did.

And even here in Colorado I got out of the cannabis industry (officially, unofficially I still do my work) because of the stigma around it. As a college grad from a legit 4 year university and a solid resume I had a hell of a time finding good work outside of the industry, even with 2 years as inventory manager of one of the largest dispensary chains in the world under my belt.
The reason why you had trouble finding work outside the industry has nothing to do with any stigma; it's because the economy sucks and has for Mr Obama's entire presidency- nevermind the Bush 43 trainwreck. One cannot blame Mr Obama; he did the best he could with the unfolding disaster dropped into his lap, and he did a good job considering the Republican majorities in both House and Senate were openly hell bent on making his a failed presidency.

You just stepped from the fastest growing industry in America today into an ongoing recession for everyone else (but the one percenters, THEY'RE doing fine because they're not job hunting!), and then you wondered why things suddenly got tough.

I bet that's not what you wanted to hear, but that is the economic reality on the ground, if not the one our mass media oligarchy will tell you about on the six o'clock news.
 

Lucky Luke

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^ fact right there.

There is a reason nearly every country round the world has record low interest rates. We are all still recovering from the GFC and the money invested to lesson its impact.

Global stability doesnt help with America and Russia doing its normal thing in a foreign country and the America vs China blustering in the disputed sea.

An election looming doesnt help. How the hell are either of these two going to replace such a great man and leader as Obama is? Dont answer that was rhetorical.
 
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ttystikk

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^ fact right there.

There is a reason nearly every country round the world has record low interest rates. We are all still recovering from the GFC and the money invested to lesson its impact.

Global stability doesnt help with America and Russia doing its normal thing in a foreign country and the America vs China blustering in the disputed sea.

An election looming doesnt help. How the hell are either of these two going to replace such a great man and leader as Obama is? Dont answer that was rhetorical.
To answer your first paragraph; the oligarchs won't allow the REAL solution; tax the rich and corporations!

Paragraph two; those conflicts and most others around the world are being fought with our tax dollars because our defense industry earns money on (weapons built and sold to fight) them and has the power to lobby congress with TAX DEDUCTIBLE cash. So that means we foot the bill while no one is held accountable for either the human or financial costs.

Paragraph three; those same oligarchs, using those same tax deductible political bribery dollars, have altered the political system enough so they get their choice in office, not The People's. Or do you think Bernie actually got a fair shake in the media?

There, now. Picture clearer? Bet it doesn't make you feel a bit better, does it? I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's the ultra rich who are destroying our country. Corporations are simply the vehicles they use to manipulate the political system.
 
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