CSI humboldt thread

Bakersfield

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I don't get many herms, it's mainly for uniformity. I'm going back to 1 gal pots in coco more like a SOG vs the bushed/mainline type plants. It will help me with pheno hunts & keep my flower tent from getting out of control.
I've tried my hand at creating a Sea Of Green from seedlings for the last 6 months and it did not work too well for me.
Clones are the way to go for SOG

I love popping seeds too much to go for trays filled with a limited variety of clones.
 

higher self

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I've tried my hand at creating a Sea Of Green from seedlings for the last 6 months and it did not work too well for me.
Clones are the way to go for SOG

I love popping seeds too much to go for trays filled with a limited variety of clones.
I feel like for my setup I can keep the variety up even more so by downsizing pot size & change in grow style. I'll get a few of these random seed pops out the way lol then I'll do mono type runs to pheno hunt. Sometimes I just think about not taking clones (it does get stressful at times) & running seeds but if I did it would be my chucks so I could make more seeds with the parents if I wanted to. I guess with my purchased seeds I'm too scared of losing the grail & not having a way to get more seeds, which has happened a good few times.
 
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quiescent

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The usual reason is that clones will grow slightly different than a seed plant and if you are searching for a mom then you'd want to see how the cuttings would grow for future runs. Notsodog explains it pretty good in the latest Breeder Syndicate Podcast with CSI. It's something to the effect that seed plants tend to have more vigor than the clones.
Pretty sure it was Caleb talking about that and how to hunt numbers. I've been preaching to folks what he said on the subject for years. If there's anyone's methodology I'd blindly try to replicate, it's Caleb.

Also, flowering sexually mature clones absolutely greatly reduces the occurrence of pollen sacs that get produced at the arm pit of the seed plants you ideally wouldn't be flowering indoors anyway.

Nanners are their own thing. Some can be helped, some can't.
 

Mrsmokestacks

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Looking sexy! My next run will be almost exclusively diesel, Chem, and og, s1's and hybrids. If Bubba hybrids didn't veg so slow I'd throw a few in. I'm just not into or overly impressed by these frosty purple hybrids. Urkle, t1000, ofp, af1, Mendo Purps, etc. I choose the green phenos of their crosses every time. And I choose the chem/og plants over those every time. Seeing these makes me wish I'd have ran em last time. Double the yield, greater effect, and easier to trim lol.

Do you prefer the Chemd s1 or the triangle s1 on this run? What is your reason for your preference?
 

Mrsmokestacks

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I found a super dank sour diesel ringer in a half pack of legendary mythical clowns game over diesel. The only cross I ran from him that was impressive. I still have 4 seeds. I'm gonna use any males i find and hit my favorite kush/tk/ chem /diesel/ s1's and hybrids plus f2 the game over diesel. I also have people under the stairs' ecsd x 4dd. I'm gonna find my favorite male in that and do the same. That way I have enough sour/og/chem to last me a lifetime, can work the line, and I can enjoy the experience and experimentation. I'm also gonna run Romulan genetics Romulan bx1 because I used to love Romulan lol we'll see if I still do.
 

Bakersfield

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I have a question for you folks that are very familiar with Sour Diesel.

I am currently growing a cross from a reputable breeder of
Chemdog D/Chemdog #3 x East Coast Sour Diesel/Sour Diesel IBL.

They are currently on week 10 of flower and look to have a couple more weeks left.
The strange thing for me is all the Sour Diesel crosses I've grown in the past have had a definate Chemdog pesence to the aroma.
These however are very Haze like, with that sweet candy apple, carrot top, woody smell of many Haze heavy crosses I've grown.
The tops are very large as well, but are very larfy like a Haze.

Have any of you had similar experiences?
I'd like to know before I ask the breeder what gives.
 

Mrsmokestacks

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I have a question for you folks that are very familiar with Sour Diesel.

I am currently growing a cross from a reputable breeder of
Chemdog D/Chemdog #3 x East Coast Sour Diesel/Sour Diesel IBL.

They are currently on week 10 of flower and look to have a couple more weeks left.
The strange thing for me is all the Sour Diesel crosses I've grown in the past have had a definate Chemdog pesence to the aroma.
These however are very Haze like, with that sweet candy apple, carrot top, woody smell of many Haze heavy crosses I've grown.
The tops are very large as well, but are very larfy like a Haze.

Have any of you had similar experiences?
I'd like to know before I ask the breeder what gives.
It seems like sour Diesel buds are usually more airy. In my experience (only crosses and smoking real deal sd flowers) the smell doesn't come on until after chop and cure in the crosses I've ran. That game over diesel was the only strain I ran alongside the Bully Sticks and TKS1'S that was equal. Except it was the only one with the diesel funk. The others were og and chem smells. That's why I want to use the game over diesel on the chems and ogs. To hopefully add some diesel smells into some of the progeny. As for haze terps. I'd be inclined to say no. Haze is a very distinct smell and I never get it in my og/chem/diesel. I'm pretty sure sour Diesel does have some sativa in it though so maybe that's where it's coming from.
 

Bakersfield

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Looking sexy! My next run will be almost exclusively diesel, Chem, and og, s1's and hybrids. If Bubba hybrids didn't veg so slow I'd throw a few in. I'm just not into or overly impressed by these frosty purple hybrids. Urkle, t1000, ofp, af1, Mendo Purps, etc. I choose the green phenos of their crosses every time. And I choose the chem/og plants over those every time. Seeing these makes me wish I'd have ran em last time. Double the yield, greater effect, and easier to trim lol.

Do you prefer the Chemd s1 or the triangle s1 on this run? What is your reason for your preference?
I'm still on the fence on which is better.
The Chem D S1's out yielded the TK S1's by double, but the TK has a more vibrant high that also hits hard.
 

Devils34

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It seems like sour Diesel buds are usually more airy. In my experience (only crosses and smoking real deal sd flowers) the smell doesn't come on until after chop and cure in the crosses I've ran. That game over diesel was the only strain I ran alongside the Bully Sticks and TKS1'S that was equal. Except it was the only one with the diesel funk. The others were og and chem smells. That's why I want to use the game over diesel on the chems and ogs. To hopefully add some diesel smells into some of the progeny. As for haze terps. I'd be inclined to say no. Haze is a very distinct smell and I never get it in my og/chem/diesel. I'm pretty sure sour Diesel does have some sativa in it though so maybe that's where it's coming from.
The ecsd is about 70% sativa.

In the earlier 2000s there was a sour d without diesel funk, it was just straight sour....unsure if thats ajs cut or not....but it tastes like lemon/lime sour patch kids and gives about 90% sativa high trippy ass high that will have colors seeming much brighter and gives you a happy high....its incredible but I haven't seen it since like 2008. Since then all anyone has is ecsd, which is also an awesome strain....but the other sour d is absolutely legendary and used to go for 600/oz in nyc area.
 

Mrsmokestacks

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The ecsd is about 70% sativa.

In the earlier 2000s there was a sour d without diesel funk, it was just straight sour....unsure if thats ajs cut or not....but it tastes like lemon/lime sour patch kids and gives about 90% sativa high trippy ass high that will have colors seeming much brighter and gives you a happy high....its incredible but I haven't seen it since like 2008. Since then all anyone has is ecsd, which is also an awesome strain....but the other sour d is absolutely legendary and used to go for 600/oz in nyc area.
I've definitely had some different Sours in my time. Definitely not all the same. The one I used to get was light green frosted flowers. Definitely foxtaily, but less so than the later and darker versions I'd get. Pretty sure the buds I got first were the real sour d, but the later buds were ecsd. Both are amazing and similar, but definitely the first 'sour' I was getting was better. I always assumed different quality of growers and outdoor vs indoor samples might be part of the reason. Not that they were actually different. Of course I was wrong. I still love both though.
On a side note.. Blue dream was a similar experience for me. The Santa Cruz cut is similar, but waaay better than the blue dream (decent still) that most people have. I'd think blue dream was mediocre if I hadn't tried expertly grown santa cruz.
 

dakilla187

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Both my t1000 x urkles have been like it was told.....Very slow growing short squat plants...I kept them in veg as long as I could until I seen them barely gaining in size....

Both of them are finicky in that they need more nutrients then the other plants, especially nitrogen, even a clone is screaming for higher nitrogen.....The flowers are also very slow growing....The plants flowers seem special, the tips are very dense looking, it looks to be of high quality even this early on....The insides are meh atm, small stuff...

When you grow this be sure to make clones as for myself this is one of those finicky plants that needs to be re ran, im very interested at this point...A shame I only had two viable seeds

One pheno is obviously better then the other but also very similar to each other
 
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