CSI humboldt thread

BongChoi

BongChoi

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amneziaHaze said:
I got a shit tone of them just last grow got a midget.flat stem, depressing flower formation....
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Yeah it's a bummer how those flat stemmed plants turn out. Saw several of them last year.

Got really worried about my irene bubba when it grew one of those out of the main stalk when the plant was only a few nodes tall. I was really contemplating cutting it because it was sapping energy and trying to overtake the main stalk. Miraculously overtime the flat stem split along it's furthest growing edge into 7 new tops and the flat stemmed mutation faded away. Now it's like the plant has 2 main stalks, no mutated stems and lots of healthy tops. Not that I'd recommend leaving the celery stalked plants but sometimes there's hope.
 
Mrsmokestacks

Mrsmokestacks

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BongChoi said:
Yeah it's a bummer how those flat stemmed plants turn out. Saw several of them last year.

Got really worried about my irene bubba when it grew one of those out of the main stalk when the plant was only a few nodes tall. I was really contemplating cutting it because it was sapping energy and trying to overtake the main stalk. Miraculously overtime the flat stem split along it's furthest growing edge into 7 new tops and the flat stemmed mutation faded away. Now it's like the plant has 2 main stalks, no mutated stems and lots of healthy tops. Not that I'd recommend leaving the celery stalked plants but sometimes there's hope.
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Those suck for sure!! I used to be a ‘give every seed a chance’ kinda guy, but I toss the fasciated ones early now lol
 
amneziaHaze

amneziaHaze

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BongChoi said:
Yeah it's a bummer how those flat stemmed plants turn out. Saw several of them last year.

Got really worried about my irene bubba when it grew one of those out of the main stalk when the plant was only a few nodes tall. I was really contemplating cutting it because it was sapping energy and trying to overtake the main stalk. Miraculously overtime the flat stem split along it's furthest growing edge into 7 new tops and the flat stemmed mutation faded away. Now it's like the plant has 2 main stalks, no mutated stems and lots of healthy tops. Not that I'd recommend leaving the celery stalked plants but sometimes there's hope.
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I was super happy bud looked massive then when i cut it it was all wood and little bit of bud.with shit tone of leafs
 
Norml56

Norml56

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Mrsmokestacks said:
Agreed. I’ve grown plenty of beauties. Grown plenty of mid grade smoke that’s better than what most people get. People can see some in this thread. Looks aren’t everything. Smell and taste are more important. Dank smelling weed gets one more stoned. Period. I would also say that the best growers are how you judge a genetic. They unlock potential. A crappy grower will never show you what a plant is truly capable of. Give them an elite cut and you’ll think it’s trash. Give an elite grower anything and the plant will be healthy and as quality as is possible for that specific plant. Of course some phenos are more beginner friendly and the plant’s potential can be reached more easily so an inferior grower might be able to do a decent job, but hard to grow strains are only done justice by elite growers.
For instance, I’ve had good indoor Santa Cruz Blue dream from several growers. All good, but one of the batches came from an elite grower. The flavor was stronger and slightly different. The high was stronger. It was better. Same cut.
I have taken snips off of a friends seed that looked terrible because it was the last seed and I wanted to try it. He is a good grower but not elite. After his harvest he told me it was garbage and to toss it. When I harvested mine it was absolute dank Hawaiian Snow. Most of the seeds I start end up healthy and vigorous. Grown well. However, when it comes time to smoke my perfectly cured well grown weed only 5% or less would even make it to round 2. Quality and keepers are subjective until you are experienced. After that it becomes more objective. Provably so when multiple elite growers pick the same exact few keepers out of a large hunt.
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Is "elite" the new level we are all working towards now.
 
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GWilliamsCannabis

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I don't think there's anything but good and bad growers lol

A good grow sticks to a routine with their plants; which is probably THE most important thing.

A bad grower tries to throw as many chemicals into their soil as they can and ultimately destroys the quality of the plant.

Imo; they are plants; the less human interference during a grow; the better....

Nowadays everyone is scientific measuring all sorts of shit.

Not me....I use the least possible amount of nutrients and I interfere as little as possible with the plants.

I have a friend who tries to be scientific with his grow - but my bud shits on his every fucking time.

STOP trying to be like the medical/recreational dispensaries that so many of us dispise.

That's what I say.
 
amneziaHaze

amneziaHaze

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GWilliamsCannabis said:
I don't think there's anything but good and bad growers lol

A good grow sticks to a routine with their plants; which is probably THE most important thing.

A bad grower tries to throw as many chemicals into their soil as they can and ultimately destroys the quality of the plant.

Imo; they are plants; the less human interference during a grow; the better....

Nowadays everyone is scientific measuring all sorts of shit.

Not me....I use the least possible amount of nutrients and I interfere as little as possible with the plants.

I have a friend who tries to be scientific with his grow - but my bud shits on his every fucking time.

STOP trying to be like the medical/recreational dispensaries that so many of us dispise.

That's what I say.
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What makes you different than a bad grower? Only thing you need to do is water when its dry and keep the light at the correct distance.rest is for quantity
 
amneziaHaze

amneziaHaze

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madvillian420 said:
low quality lights produce larfier versions of what could be phenomenal nug
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Not really i had aliexpress 20$ 60w got 90g of hard nugs it was amazing i think i have a diary here.you just have to have the plant at the max distance it can handle.give itco2 and cold water in hydro she can handle 1cm away from a fake spiderfarmer
 
madvillian420

madvillian420

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amneziaHaze said:
Not really i had aliexpress 20$ 60w got 90g of hard nugs it was amazing i think i have a diary here.you just have to have the plant at the max distance it can handle.give itco2 and cold water in hydro she can handle 1cm away from a fake spiderfarmer
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ive grown the same cuts for years under blurples vs high quality quantum boards with a tuned spectrum and the difference is obvious. The frost levels, calyx to leaf ratio and nug size were all affected. Not saying you cant grow good medicine that way, but unless youve done it under both okay lights and great lights how can you be certain that your nug reached its true full potential?
 
amneziaHaze

amneziaHaze

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madvillian420 said:
ive grown the same cuts for years under blurples vs high quality quantum boards with a tuned spectrum and the difference is obvious. The frost levels, calyx to leaf ratio and nug size were all affected. Not saying you cant grow good medicine that way, but unless youve done it under both okay lights and great lights how can you be certain that your nug reached its true full potential?
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Todays shit led light is a lot better than a quality good light from a few years ago.
All i know i got a lot from a few watts and when i smoked it it worked
 

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amneziaHaze

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GWilliamsCannabis said:
Honestly you'd be shocked how many ppl can't get that part right.
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Its hard if you never had a plant in your life.but you can allways train on tomatoes and chillies
Chillie is like a tree and grows fast good for lst
And tomato grows huge and one fail in water kills your crop allsoo likes lots of nutes.i would reccomend cherrie tomatoes grows 3m on a window.
 
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