CSI humboldt thread

Dividedsky

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Yeah, it definitely sucked. He sold me 4-year-old seeds on my first order I ever placed from him. I've never received paper packs from him since. He didn't come through and replace them although to be fair I didn't really ask for a replacement. I just let him know that that happened. He never responded. I store my seeds just fine (not refrigerated or frozen, but in a consistent and desireable temperature and humidity year-round) and have never had an issue with germination except for specific packs of seeds. Particularly older seeds obviously. It's rare for new seeds to not germinate for me and when that happens it is memorable. For instance, I had a whole pack of Grandpa's breath v2 from dungeons vault and only had one out of like 11 germ. I actually made a bunch of my own seeds in 2018 and I'm still getting 95 plus percent on them. I wish I would have saved my bubba buying spree for a later order. It seems like that was one of the first reversals he did so those seeds are probably among his oldest. It also seems like he has redone that reversal. At least for the most part. So the Bubba crosses are probably fine to get now. As disappointed as I was I still love CSI as my go-to seed source. He is beyond generous with his freebies and I trust his crosses to be what he says they are.
Damn man that sucks about the germ rates. You know something up when your other seeds are germin fine right next to packs that have shit germ rates. I ran dvg grandpa's breath years back with great success, but your comment make me a little uneasy because I did just scoop a dvg grandpa's breath, hope they pop alright. Gotta say I've had really good luck with dvg though-I've ran their brandywine, hot rod, grandpa's breath, purple jellato and foul mouth. Dvg has some terpy fire, purple jellato and grandpa's breath were my favorite, I'm running some hot rod cuts right now actually.
 

quiescent

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it's cannabiogen's super inbred pck that allegedly dominates every cross it's used in
caleb's preservationist work is admirable but all those heirlooms come with issues
Yeah, I've grown more pck crosses than I care to admit. Beanhoarder got me hard back in 2011 lol.

It doesn't negatively impact most of ace's strains to where you notice it's even there. Genetic variability must need to be very low, not relying on recessive traits to make the plant express what the grower is looking for.
 

Bakersfield

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Yeah, it definitely sucked. He sold me 4-year-old seeds on my first order I ever placed from him. I've never received paper packs from him since. He didn't come through and replace them although to be fair I didn't really ask for a replacement. I just let him know that that happened. He never responded. I store my seeds just fine (not refrigerated or frozen, but in a consistent and desireable temperature and humidity year-round) and have never had an issue with germination except for specific packs of seeds. Particularly older seeds obviously. It's rare for new seeds to not germinate for me and when that happens it is memorable. For instance, I had a whole pack of Grandpa's breath v2 from dungeons vault and only had one out of like 11 germ. I actually made a bunch of my own seeds in 2018 and I'm still getting 95 plus percent on them. I wish I would have saved my bubba buying spree for a later order. It seems like that was one of the first reversals he did so those seeds are probably among his oldest. It also seems like he has redone that reversal. At least for the most part. So the Bubba crosses are probably fine to get now. As disappointed as I was I still love CSI as my go-to seed source. He is beyond generous with his freebies and I trust his crosses to be what he says they are.
He says somewhere on the Pot Cast interview that he made most of his Bubba crosses years before he started selling seeds. Something like 2012.
 

Mrsmokestacks

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I am in the process of trying to germ an old bombthreat bubba. So far it is a no-go. Using diff techniques, one bean at a time. I typically do 100% on germ and sprout. I have only had issues with a couple strains out of many. Bummer but it happens.
I hope you get some to work. I always thought that bomb threat looked really good! I guess I should have started popping my bubbla beans when I got them in 2018. Sounds like they might have been 6 years old at that point though which is probably ridiculous to sell beans that old without a disclaimer. I ain't crying though. Plenty of csi seeds to go through. Probably a quarter or a third of them freebies!
 

quiescent

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Pck as in Pakistani chitral kush?? What breeder are you talking about? Sorry just trying to catch up on this thread
Caleb has a regular seed brand called Pirates of the Emerald Triangle. He has a bunch of bx lines and incrosses using the same parents from a lot of his fem lines. They use the pck you're talking about as the male to start the lines.
 

Dividedsky

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Caleb has a regular seed brand called Pirates of the Emerald Triangle. He has a bunch of bx lines and incrosses using the same parents from a lot of his fem lines. They use the pck you're talking about as the male to start the lines.
O gotchya thank for the heads up dude!
 

quiescent

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In my experience it's not the progenitor of desirable traits in smell, taste, high, bag appeal or yield.... not any grower's favorite plant.

I'm not telling you they're guaranteed to be bad, I don't see how you couldn't get some good plants out of them. The market is so saturated with fire at this point that it's hard to recommend pirates. Especially at the price point and considering the potential age of the stock... early 2010s this would've been in more people's grows.

It might tighten up the structure of a haze hybrid and shorten flowering time but beyond that there are no real positives. It'd be something you breed away from after selecting plants out of the bx generation that express as much of the other parent's traits as possible.

If you want to advance a strain one more bx or cross it to another clone only and incross from there it might have some use. I certainly wouldn't be looking for smoke out of these if I had a plethora of options.

I'd guess there's probably something on the market that's probably superior breeding stock for the person just chucking. Looking for linked traits might be easier with his work but that requires more investment of resources, holding males past female selection, you know.... real breeding.

At this point in time these are seeds nspecta made for himself more than others imo. I anticipate that he's either got them advanced a generation/more or plans to do so at some point. If he released a bx2 ix I'd be all about trying them.
 

Bakersfield

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In my experience it's not the progenitor of desirable traits in smell, taste, high, bag appeal or yield.... not any grower's favorite plant.

I'm not telling you they're guaranteed to be bad, I don't see how you couldn't get some good plants out of them. The market is so saturated with fire at this point that it's hard to recommend pirates. Especially at the price point and considering the potential age of the stock... early 2010s this would've been in more people's grows.

It might tighten up the structure of a haze hybrid and shorten flowering time but beyond that there are no real positives. It'd be something you breed away from after selecting plants out of the bx generation that express as much of the other parent's traits as possible.

If you want to advance a strain one more bx or cross it to another clone only and incross from there it might have some use. I certainly wouldn't be looking for smoke out of these if I had a plethora of options.

I'd guess there's probably something on the market that's probably superior breeding stock for the person just chucking. Looking for linked traits might be easier with his work but that requires more investment of resources, holding males past female selection, you know.... real breeding.

At this point in time these are seeds nspecta made for himself more than others imo. I anticipate that he's either got them advanced a generation/more or plans to do so at some point. If he released a bx2 ix I'd be all about trying them.
Well put on the PCK
I've found that the PCK hybrids have a tendency to herm or at least the did for me.

I am finishing up some Uzbekistani and they did not perform as well as any OG or Chem hybrids.
They are very Northern Lights like in smell.
Did require a longer veg than I gave them and had a problem sending out roots in a ebb and flow hydro.

The White x Chem D are looking fire to me at day 61. Some have these incredibly long orange hairs.

I'll be yanking them in a couple of days.

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Observe & Report

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He must have changed the freebie policy. I have ordered direct from CSI:H a bunch of times, last in fall 2019, and every time I ordered two packs and always got one 3-bean freebie. Except the time I bought just a $200 pack of TK-S1 and also received one 3-bean freebie.
 
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