DC Seed Exchange

GrnMtnGrowr

Well-Known Member
Does anyone here know why DC Seed Exchange shows an EU phone number and a US phone number? I don't understand why they have a phone overseas. Placed an order on March 23rd because they were emailing me quickly and assured me that the Corvid-19 had no effect on their business, so I mailed a money order the same day via Priority Mail but the tracking in USPS may be a bit messed up now and it was supposed to be to them by the 25th, but tracking shows it a half-hour away from DC for 5 days now. Anyway, I called the number for the US and got no answer, I have sent several emails and have received no reply. They were really quick to reply to emails before I ordered, now no communication!!??
 

crisnpropa

Well-Known Member
Does anyone here know why DC Seed Exchange shows an EU phone number and a US phone number? I don't understand why they have a phone overseas. Placed an order on March 23rd because they were emailing me quickly and assured me that the Corvid-19 had no effect on their business, so I mailed a money order the same day via Priority Mail but the tracking in USPS may be a bit messed up now and it was supposed to be to them by the 25th, but tracking shows it a half-hour away from DC for 5 days now. Anyway, I called the number for the US and got no answer, I have sent several emails and have received no reply. They were really quick to reply to emails before I ordered, now no communication!!??
I ordered from them recently and I had to practice a bit of patience. Turned out to be all good (USA delivery).
Don't invest too much emotion worrying just yet.
 

TWest65

Well-Known Member
Does anyone here know why DC Seed Exchange shows an EU phone number and a US phone number? I don't understand why they have a phone overseas. Placed an order on March 23rd because they were emailing me quickly and assured me that the Corvid-19 had no effect on their business, so I mailed a money order the same day via Priority Mail but the tracking in USPS may be a bit messed up now and it was supposed to be to them by the 25th, but tracking shows it a half-hour away from DC for 5 days now. Anyway, I called the number for the US and got no answer, I have sent several emails and have received no reply. They were really quick to reply to emails before I ordered, now no communication!!??
From their FAQ:
What is the cost of shipping and handling?
We ship all orders discretely via USPS Priority Mail with a tracking number for a flat $8.00 fee.

Unfortunately we have had some bad experiences shipping internationally recently and have decided it is best not to take the risk at this time.

So, apparently they used to sell accept donations internationally.
 

GrnMtnGrowr

Well-Known Member
From their FAQ:
What is the cost of shipping and handling?
We ship all orders discretely via USPS Priority Mail with a tracking number for a flat $8.00 fee.

Unfortunately we have had some bad experiences shipping internationally recently and have decided it is best not to take the risk at this time.
So, apparently they used to sell accept donations internationally.



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I ordered from them recently and I had to practice a bit of patience. Turned out to be all good (USA delivery).
Don't invest too much emotion worrying just yet.
Patience isn't my strong suit but with all that going on I will take that advice. Thank you
 

GrnMtnGrowr

Well-Known Member
From their FAQ:
What is the cost of shipping and handling?
We ship all orders discretely via USPS Priority Mail with a tracking number for a flat $8.00 fee.

Unfortunately we have had some bad experiences shipping internationally recently and have decided it is best not to take the risk at this time.
So, apparently they used to sell accept donations internationally.
Thanks
 

GrnMtnGrowr

Well-Known Member
I forwarded your concerns to Paul at DCSE [ he's not on this site ]. He says he's not seen mails expressing these concerns, but asks if you would mail him @ [email protected] and be sure to indicate you are GrnMtnGrow. Whatever the issue, Paul will surely take care of you.
So today I did get a reply to my emails I had sent him. He says he hasn't got my payment yet, so either the Postal system is really behind or someone stole the dang thing, but he told me that he thought the mail was being slow in his area....so I wait and see what happens.
Thank you for contacting him....not sure why he didn't see the numerous emails I sent to that address, but he is communicating now.
 

_bender_

Member
Long time reader of the forums, 1st time grower/poster. Unfortunately I have to report that something shady appears to be going on with either Paul or dc seed exchange and wanted to warn others about this experience.

After much research on reputable banks etc I ordered from DC Seed Exchange on February 13th. I Paid via E check by sending pictures of the check and waited. The next day I get a confirmation call from a number about the check from some guy with foreign accent , and I confirm that I did send that order/check for that amount( 150+ dollars) never ordering from them before I found this somewhat strange but figured so is the course with the quasi-legal souvenir/novelty seed market, as this is probably the 3rd party e check verifier just doing their job.... anyways time moves on. I get an email from them that day saying my order is on hold and to allow 24-48 hours for my e-check to clear before my order is shipped- seems pretty standard. No problem.

I then wait until the 20th without a word after seeing the check posted and cleared my account on the 18th....
so I reach out to their email with the following message

"Just wondering if there’s been any update on this! Saw the e check has cleared and em have been awaiting a shipping update since.

Thanks!!
_______"

and get a reply from “mj” who is a new employee saying

"Hi,

This is Mary Jane, I'm Paul's new employee, I had to double check with our check processor, they didn't send us the image, I'm getting a copy and will deposit asap, I'll get this packed and dropped priority mail on Saturday for you. Sorry for the delay - I'll put in something extra for ya.

Happy Growing,

MJ"

I reply " great thanks so much for the update" ,then wait- and wouldn't you know it ,tracking is sent my way that day before finally getting picked up/ shipped out on the 22nd, & arrives on the 24th. AWESOME. Got what I ordered and everything appears great....

THEN FAST FORWARD to 2 Days ago- on march 31st ( well over a month after everything completely paid for and delivered) I get a highly suspicious email that appears to be from DC seed exchange/paul stating that my check bounced. Found it in my SPAM folder which was also perplexing- here's the exact email quoted

"
Unfortunately, your eCheck payment bounced.
To settle up, you can send your payment via CashApp to (no comments please, I’ll know it is you):
$paulnchucker
Don’t have CashApp try it using my code and you will get $10:
FMCDWKV
https://cash.app/app/FMCDWKV
Or you can also send cash or blank money orders, sent via Certified or USPS Priority Mail (please do not require a signature) so you can track the funds. Please include your invoice and send to:
Sunny Vera Family
PO Box 92363
Washington, DC 20090
Please confirm when your donation has been sent. If you have any questions please let us know. If I do not hear back from you I will be forced to ban your account and submit the balance due to a collection agency.
Thank you for your cooperation,
Paul
Now I don't know about you but that got my scammer senses tingling and is really weird especially since the check cleared,( confirmed again in my records that very instant through my online banking)

So a little apprehensive but still trying to give them the benefit of the doubt......I reach out to them stating my concern about this, and after indeed confirming that this email appears to be their known email address, I decide to reply, and even write another email copy through their website contact address link additionally ,just in case.


My message was as follows:

"
Hello I just saw this message in my junk mail, checking my banking records however and the e check cleared and shows as such in my bank account on feb 18th. I’m happy to provide this information , however I wanted to confirm with you guys 1st as this does come off as highly fishy/scammy, is this message delayed/mistaken/ increased for someone else?

Either way would like to get this sorted, but as previously stated my check went through and cleared in February so not sure what you mean.

Thanks"


I finally get a reply today a mere couple hours ago simply stating

" Hi __________ (misspelled name this time)

Yes your check bounced. Please see attached.


To settle up, you can send your payment via CashApp to (no comments please, I’ll know it is you):
$paulnchucker

Don’t have CashApp try it using my code and you will get $10:
FMCDWKV

https://cash.app/app/FMCDWKV

Or you can also send cash or blank money orders, sent via Certified or USPS Priority Mail (please do not require a signature) so you can track the funds. Please include your invoice and send to:

Sunny Vera Family
PO Box 92363
Washington, DC 20090

Please confirm when your donation has been sent. If you have any questions please let us know.


Respectfully,
Paul"

I reply AGAIN getting frustrated now that something is obviously a foul and instead of this being some mistake on their end, it seems more likely that whoever is on the other end is trying to scam me by getting me to cash app them funds AGAIN after already paying under some threat that it will "get sent to collections" So i send him via email a bank PDF showing the check cleared...bank letterhead and everything on it ( don't worry nothing that dangerous information wise for those to further scam me )

"Paul, my check cleared and shows as such in my account. So you must be mistaken, as you can see it’s both posted and cleared. So I will not be cash app-ing additional money and double paying.

Please see the information attached, it’s the official statement from my bank. Thanks, hope you sort this out and I’m trying to help all I can but it’s pretty clear that it’s been settled in my end."



I found it strange that nothing was mentioned in regards to addressing my concerns about how scammy this sounds, no elaboration on whats happening etc, and completely ignoring the timeline and everything mentioned in my previous emails about how it has cleared my account well over a month ago.... Regardless he attaches a low resolution black and white "scanned" check copy that looks not at all kosher/ proper resolutions with a refer to maker stamp on it and a blunt email stating:

"Well _______, I'm not sure what to tell you except that your checked bounced. I didn't forge the document nor would I contact you if it didn't. Call your bank, the file I sent is a legal copy sent to me from my bank and send them the attached copy of the check. In addition, I was charged $25 for the pleasure of doing business with you.

I don't care about the money but you should know what the facts are.

Respectfully,
Paul


Flaberghasted that this is really happening,and that the presumable business owner has either been hacked, or is genuinely trying to rip me off again, I do exactly that and call my bank right then and there... I wait over an hour since lines are pretty busy (since you know the end of the world is happening right now etc) and CONFIRM with the banker that it did clear on the 18th, they have an image of the said check and everything's exactly as it should be. IT NEVER BOUNCED and CLEARED! Case closed. I reply saying such and feel good knowing that everything's good on my end.

Just wanted to give everyone else a heads up; I'm a real chill guy who tries to give people the benefit of the doubt, but something is clearly fishy going amok with Paul/ DC seed exchange. Either he's attempting to scam people now, or his website/private info/ data has been hacked and now others are going around trying to scam others.


With the headache and extra time this took to resolve this I"m quite bummed, as initially ( even after the poor delay/ communication after initial checkout and payment) I was pretty satisfied with the overall experience before all this S*@& went down out the blue over a month after the fact. Didn't throw in any extras too as promised. Just glad I got my beans, not so much about them trying to double charge me and be rudely threatening .


HEADS UP- STAY CLEAR.
 
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Rolloff

Well-Known Member
Long time reader of the forums, 1st time grower/poster. Unfortunately I have to report that something shady appears to be going on with either Paul or dc seed exchange and wanted to warn others about this experience.

After much research on reputable banks etc I ordered from DC Seed Exchange on February 13th. I Paid via E check by sending pictures of the check and waited. The next day I get a confirmation call from a number about the check from some guy with foreign accent , and I confirm that I did send that order/check for that amount( 150+ dollars) never ordering from them before I found this somewhat strange but figured so is the course with the quasi-legal souvenir/novelty seed market, as this is probably the 3rd part e check verifier just doing their job.... anyways time moves on. I get an email from them that day saying my order is on hold and to allow 24-48 hours for my e-check to clear before my order is shipped- seems pretty standard. No problem.

I then wait until the 20th without a word after seeing the check posted and cleared my account on the 18th....
so I reach out to their email with the following message

"Just wondering if there’s been any update on this! Saw the e check has cleared and em have been awaiting a shipping update since.

Thanks!!
_______"

and get a reply from “mj” who is a new employee saying

"Hi,

This is Mary Jane, I'm Paul's new employee, I had to double check with our check processor, they didn't send us the image, I'm getting a copy and will deposit asap, I'll get this packed and dropped priority mail on Saturday for you. Sorry for the delay - I'll put in something extra for ya.

Happy Growing,

MJ"

I reply " great thanks so much for the update" ,then wait- and wouldn't you know it ,tracking is sent my way that day before finally getting picked up/ shipped out on the 22nd, & arrives on the 24th. AWESOME. Got what I ordered and everything appears great....

THEN FAST FORWARD to 2 Days ago- on march 31st ( well over a month after everything completely paid for and delivered) I get a highly suspicious email that appears to be from DC seed exchange/paul stating that my check bounced. Found it in my SPAM folder which was also perplexing- here's the exact email quoted

"


Now I don't know about you but that got my scammer senses tingling and is really weird especially since the check cleared,( confirmed again in my records that very instant through my online banking)

So a little apprehensive but still trying to give them the benefit of the doubt......I reach out to them stating my concern about this, and after indeed confirming that this email appears to be their known email address, I decide to reply, and even write another email copy through their website contact address link additionally ,just in case.


My message was as follows:

"
Hello I just saw this message in my junk mail, checking my banking records however and the e check cleared and shows as such in my bank account on feb 18th. I’m happy to provide this information , however I wanted to confirm with you guys 1st as this does come off as highly fishy/scammy, is this message delayed/mistaken/ increased for someone else?

Either way would like to get this sorted, but as previously stated my check went through and cleared in February so not sure what you mean.

Thanks"


I finally get a reply today a mere couple hours ago simply stating

" Hi __________ (misspelled name this time)

Yes your check bounced. Please see attached.


To settle up, you can send your payment via CashApp to (no comments please, I’ll know it is you):
$paulnchucker

Don’t have CashApp try it using my code and you will get $10:
FMCDWKV

https://cash.app/app/FMCDWKV

Or you can also send cash or blank money orders, sent via Certified or USPS Priority Mail (please do not require a signature) so you can track the funds. Please include your invoice and send to:

Sunny Vera Family
PO Box 92363
Washington, DC 20090

Please confirm when your donation has been sent. If you have any questions please let us know.


Respectfully,
Paul"

I reply AGAIN getting frustrated now that something is obviously a foul and instead of this being some mistake on their end, it seems more likely that whoever is on the other end is trying to scam me by getting me to cash app them funds AGAIN after already paying under some threat that it will "get sent to collections" So i send him via email a bank PDF showing the check cleared...bank letterhead and everything on it ( don't worry nothing that dangerous information wise for those to further scam me )

"Paul, my check cleared and shows as such in my account. So you must be mistaken, as you can see it’s both posted and cleared. So I will not be cash app-ing additional money and double paying.

Please see the information attached, it’s the official statement from my bank. Thanks, hope you sort this out and I’m trying to help all I can but it’s pretty clear that it’s been settled in my end."



I found it strange that nothing was mentioned in regards to addressing my concerns about how scammy this sounds, no elaboration on whats happening etc, and completely ignoring the timeline and everything mentioned in my previous emails about how it has cleared my account well over a month ago.... Regardless he attaches a low resolution black and white "scanned" check copy that looks not at all kosher/ proper resolutions with a refer to maker stamp on it and a blunt email stating:

"Well _______, I'm not sure what to tell you except that your checked bounced. I didn't forge the document nor would I contact you if it didn't. Call your bank, the file I sent is a legal copy sent to me from my bank and send them the attached copy of the check. In addition, I was charged $25 for the pleasure of doing business with you.

I don't care about the money but you should know what the facts are.

Respectfully,
Paul


Flaberghasted that this is really happening,and that the presumable business owner has either been hacked, or is genuinely trying to rip me off again, I do exactly that and call my bank right then and there... I wait over an hour since lines are pretty busy (since you know the end of the world is happening right now etc) and CONFIRM with the banker that it did clear on the 18th, they have an image of the said check and everything's exactly as it should be. IT NEVER BOUNCED and CLEARED! Case closed. I reply saying such and feel good knowing that everything's good on my end.

Just wanted to give everyone else a heads up; I'm a real chill guy who tries to give people the benefit of the doubt, but something is clearly fishy going amok with Paul/ DC seed exchange. Either he's attempting to scam people now, or his website/private info/ data has been hacked and now others are going around trying to scam others.


With the headache and extra time this took to resolve this I"m quite bummed, as initially ( even after the poor delay/ communication) I was pretty satisfied with the overall experience before all this S*@& went down out the blue over a month after the fact.


HEADS UP- STAY CLEAR.
That’s crazy I can’t really say anything about e checks because I never used them. But I have used dcse 4 times already and I send cash priority mail. And they always get it and deliver my beans. If he was a scam you would think cash is the easiest to say it wasn’t in there. But like I said he’s always been straight with me.
 

OGBOND420

New Member
Just received my order from them today. Seem to be a standup place to do business with and they're on the East Coast United States so quick shipping times are nice too. I would recommend these guys .I snatched up some docs dank seeds there.
Good shipping, stealthy, and come in packaging that protects the beans.
Wow thats fast delivery! I’ve been searching for a seed bank that delivers in less than a week I’ll be ordering from them tonight!! Hopefully I’m as fortunate as you were.
 

GrnMtnGrowr

Well-Known Member
Wow thats fast delivery! I’ve been searching for a seed bank that delivers in less than a week I’ll be ordering from them tonight!! Hopefully I’m as fortunate as you were.
It's taking more than a week right now with the troubles the virus is causing. My payment took 9 days Priority mail to get to him from VT to DC. They got my money yesterday. I'm hoping the order gets from there to here quicker, but the Postal system appears to be messed up from Maryland to DC at this time.
 

GrnMtnGrowr

Well-Known Member
Anybody know why some of the seed banks in the US will take credit cards and some won't? I looked at the Cash app they suggested but I would have had to give my bank routing number or information I didn't trust them to have.
 

LonestarToker

Well-Known Member
Anybody know why some of the seed banks in the US will take credit cards and some won't? I looked at the Cash app they suggested but I would have had to give my bank routing number or information I didn't trust them to have.
I couldn't tell you that, but I didn't put my routing # in cash app. I put in my cc # in with no problems.
 
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