defoliation? yes/no and techniques

what im saying is technique vs techniqu lolz name your strain big dog name your technequ?? and let go POUND FOR POUND BIG BOY IM CALLING YOU OUT HEAVY WEIGHT INDOOR I PRESUME??

thump easy said:

what im saying is technique vs techniqu lolz name your strain big dog name your technequ??

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G-13, 26 watt cfl.. I can set that up this moment.. (I'm joking but i'm serious, I really could set that up.. I mean if anyone really wanted to do that ha ha),

just grow lots of dank buds not loads of fan leaves, waiting for the fan leaves to drop off, my buds would be smaller, you need direct light on them at all times and you have a good chance of get mold with a thick canopy
thick canopy gives me a much higher humidity, your right about having too many branches as I have way too many

Sativied said:

Wth thump... did you take English classes? Getting better...

Your challenge however is meaningless, obviously wouldn't prove anything because there are many other factors when comparing results. Here's a challenge for you: do a side by side with clones in same medium, same nutes, same amount of water, etc, etc, etc, etc, and then defoliate half and not the other. I'm not saying that there are no circumstances or perhaps even strains for which removing some leaves might be beneficial, but defoliating as a standard applied technique to increase yields is ludicrous and anything but proven by some kids going into a pissing contest (which is what you suggest as proving that it works which should tell you something...).

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i was talking to the other guy my english is perfect gee??? i just cant spell?? anyways i like just cant believe people talking down on deleafing it adds weight ??? i cant believe these guys.. anyway im up for a challenge im prehistoric on these kinda things i like the rivalry..

OW YA BABY FINALY A CANTENDER!!!! THANK YOU MAN I GOT A SMILE ON MY FACE LET ME GET THE G 13??? i take down let me clear the room give me a week!!! clone seed??? what is it..

max420thc said:

I was just reading a study in advanced growing section.One guy who seemed to really know what he was talking about and had the analysis to prove it said you have to use the right bulb..i think from what i remember one that hits ten nano meters of UVB..the bulb must be applied all the way from veg through flower.The scientific data indicated a increase of around 3% in thc potency with UVB over not using it.The man said there are only a couple of types of bulbs that will increase UVB enough to where it is noticeable and usable one is called a zoo bulb for reptiles.If i were not so concerned about keeping my power under control i would add the UVB for sure.

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the uvb bulbs are cfl and only use 23 watts. it wont bring up your bill

aw man you guys are clowning on me!! lolz 23 watts hehehe i about hurt myself right now when i relized what i just read.. you guys are asome but realy just try it and see if it works.. im out.. piece love and sex.. in the garden...

jacksthc said:

just grow lots of dank buds not loads of fan leaves, waiting for the fan leaves to drop off, my buds would be smaller, you need direct light on them at all times and you have a good chance of get mold with a thick canopy
thick canopy gives me a much higher humidity, your right about having too many branches as I have way too many

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May I show you exhibit A:









Not one leave was pulled off to give these plants "more air" or more "light". You Do understand that buds absorb much less light energy than the leaves that feed the buds don't you?

lilroach said:

May I show you exhibit A:

Not one leave was pulled off to give these plants "more air" or more "light".

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I'm on your side for not deleafing, but those look like they were pulled way to early.

I was going to add the same, but for the "way".

Nice grow.

JD

Vincent VonBlown said:

If defoliation doesn't work, why is it, I can find tons of pictures that shows it does. But not one picture of any failures with it??? Your just a faker if you can't show pictures...

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Wrong. You're a faker if you don't have a control group and follow standard empirical testing methods.

If you feel that eating a rock rids you of your sinus headaches, then by all means, eat the rock.

Hey Ben. When we think we're out. They pull us back in lol...

lilroach said:

Uncle Ben....

I've wanted to ask you a somewhat non-related question about growing, but you do not accept PM's.

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Talk to potroast. He took away my PM privileges when I mentioned in a PM the Riddlem3 site. They use a software spy program here. And for you folks that give me rep, thanks, but I don't know who you are nor can I send it back (not that I'd play the game anyway....just sayin'.)

So while this thread has your attention, I'd like to ask your opinion of light-movers.

While I like the fact that I can cover more plants with my lights, I get the nagging feeling that a light-mover slows the flowering process. Have you read or experimented with light-movers?

I apologies for going off-subject.

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Never used a light mover. Used white mulches and adjustable reflecting panels instead. Having said that, just use some common sense - it's all about photosynthesis or the total amount of photons a plant receives in a day. If that comes from the sun, a light mover, side lighting, or reflecting panels, it doesn't matter. And for some strange reason newbs who usually don't know shit from shinola about botany (man am I gonna catch shit for that remark LOL) erroneously think that the food made by a leaf in the middle or top doesn't affect the ENTIRE plant including the roots....and where in the hell you think that popcorn buds are popcorn cause they don't get intense light at the bud site beats me. So what do you do? You follow your feelings and yank the very unit that produces the flowers! I mean, un-fuckin' believable! Tell that to an apple grower as he picks his apples deep into the tree's canopy. (Sheesh, here we go again! "But, but, this isn't an apple tree!" I really must stop......) Doesn't have a damn thing to do with light penetration. The popcorn effect is due to chronological flowering response and apical dominance of this particular annual. The newer growth of any plant material will always get the goodies, first pick, whether that be N, growth hormones...whatever.

UB

hyroot said:

Hey Ben. When we think we're out. They pull us back in lol...

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Aint that the truth!

chuck estevez said:

I'm on your side for not deleafing, but those look like they were pulled way to early.

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here some of my larger buds I have grown from a single plant indoors

*defol'd outdoor plant (no bueno-- only qp dried after chop).. hhmm, defol technique really doesn't shine when put under scrutiny~

333maxwell said:

I already grow some of the best grass in the world and more than I know what to do with and end up tossing lbs down the disposal every year.. I'm not sure I get the point..

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Like to see the look on your plumber's face when he pulls out all that green material from your clogged waste lines LOL.

lilroach said:

May I show you exhibit A:

Not one leave was pulled off to give these plants "more air" or more "light". You Do understand that buds absorb much less light energy than the leaves that feed the buds don't you?

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looks like you chopped them 2 weeks early and there loads of small buds on a plant can't see your point, the canopy is not even level and there's loads of wasted space

its not a bad grow but your not going to prove any point with this plant

What came first the chicken or the egg.

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*defol'd outdoor plant (no bueno-- only qp dried after chop).. hhmm, defol technique really doesn't shine when put under scrutiny~

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don't know if defol technique is any good outside as you are not likely to run out of space
and its used to train the plant to have loads of branches, evenly spaced and a level canopy before you flower

your plant looks topped and stripped of all fan leaves, so you will get a low yield as it has to be done right, but good to see you gave it a go

Uncle Ben said:

Like to see the look on your plumber's face when he pulls out all that green material from your clogged waste lines LOL.

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Heh, I AM my plumber..

Regardless, if you take out main stems, shit goes down about like broccoli.. really..