Depression & Marijuana

Lacy

New Member
Same here Humboldt. :oops:
When I read the info that is given to the doctors it suggests that it is not to be given to patients with either depression or any type of mental illness which i think is retarded. I'm challenging my doctors and the government and won't stop 'til i get one.

They owe me big time.:twisted:
MM I believe is not normally prescribe for depression but if you have a history with paper work, it's hard for them to deny you, I have a very long history with depression/anxiety and a stack of paper work you wouldn't believe, talk about a psychological test battery!

It's not like I went in and said I was unhappy and Walla .. MM, it's not like that (in most cases) a true doctor isn't going to give someone a marijuana medical license on a whim, you may have to go through lot's of tests and bullshit before getting MM.

True there are lots of docs that hand out medical cards like they were coupons or something, "Money Talks" but that's not the way to go.
 

Lacy

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Philly and Dr. High: I would check into it. Why not. the more people that take a stand about other illnesses besides the obvious like cancer, aids etc,..the more aware the gov't will be so the laws will become less stringent. I 'm hoping.
 

Lacy

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Yo Tahoe! Well said my friend. Well said. :mrgreen:
hey man I totally understand. the funny thing that I have found is that what you refer to as many people laughing their life off without any smoke, a couple of tihngs have become clear to me (1) there are a lot of people floating through life and not getting engaged in life in any meaningful capacity so it is easy for them to act the way they do; and (2) the relationships that you see at the times that you see them is only a snipet of their reality. Quite often there are aspects of those relationships that are not the rosy picture that seems to be placed in front of you.

I spent a lot of time particularly in the few last years in rather deep depression, and blaming myself for my failures and inability to be like whoever I wanted to compare myself to at the time. like well fuck he's married and has a happy wife or he has been in the same job for a thousand years, etc. and why the fuck am I such a loser that I screwed up my marriage or jump from job to job - what difference is there? the factors are multiple and multi-sourced (i.e, and it not only about you) and cannot be isolated and necesarily identified and/or fixed. In my case, I can certainly look at some aspects that I could have managed differently, but whatever happened or was done is done - its gone - its the past - and the only solution is one must move on. Life continues to go foward whether you join it or not. it is your choice to join or to fall into the ditch and watch the traffic zoom by. those people that you look at and say....wow they really have it together - take a closer look if you can - would you REALLY want their life? why not figure out what is REALLY important to you - what do you want your life to look like - and then make THAT life - whatever it is - and forget about comparing it to anyone elses. I have come to believe it really is your choice, and it is only up to yourself to make that choice - including adapting and managing all the bumps alnog the way....
 

Humboldt

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I wouldn't ask your doctor if you can smoke. I would just tell him or her that you do and have been for x # of years. If you ask them, it puts them in a position of feeling responsible.
Just my 2 cents.

Yeah don't ask your doctor if you can smoke, sit down talk with him/her about MM and your problems, it's wise to be honest with the docs concerning marijuana alcohol etc.. regardless if you are wanting a license or not.
 

Lacy

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Absolutely. :mrgreen:
Yeah don't ask your doctor if you can smoke, sit down talk with him/her about MM and your problems, it's wise to be honest with the docs concerning marijuana alcohol etc.. regardless if you are wanting a license or not.
 

tahoe58

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thanks Lacy...appreciate the thought!! Now all I have to do is actually start listening to myself...that might be a good frickin start there eistein....hehehehehe:peace:

Yo Tahoe! Well said my friend. Well said. :mrgreen:
 

Philly_Buddah

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After I started to think about it I realized that I had anxiety basically my whole life. When I was little I was really irritable and always anxious and worried about things. I started feeling depression at early teens and it hit really hard, im just glad Im still alive now. I am still depressed a lot of the time, and especially anxious when I havent smoked in a while.

I started praying and wishing that I could be more like other people, that I can communicate with people good and that I can concentrate better. Then I realized there IS sumthin wrong with me, and that Ill never be like most ppl, and I shouldnt want to be like other ppl. I have a lot of problems and I need to deal with them, weed definetly makes it easier for me to deal with my problems. My main goal now is to just take it 1 day at a time, and to look for a girl that I will love and she will love me back. My life is not the best now, but I will never give up hope, becuz i believe that ur dreams can come true and my life will be better 1 day.

If marijuana can make me feel like Im in heaven now while im high, theres no telling how good I will feel when my life is better and then I get high with my girl. It might sound stupid to some ppl but thats all I need in my life, my girl and my weed.
 

Lacy

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That doesn't sound stupid at all Philly. I have had anxiety problems most of my life as well. I've done the praying wishing I was more like other people so many times I can't tell you. I've also prayed to God that I wasn't alive any more and it goes beyond hurting. :cry:

I know I'm not like other people but I'm also discovering that there are a lot more people out there that I can connect with on some level whereas before I felt so incredibly alone with it.

I think just being part of a group like this helps. I know it has helped me out a lot.

Your idea of taking it one day at a time is a good one. The only time we have is the present one.
Just a thought Philly! Make sure that you aren't looking for the perfect girl for youself too soon. So often people reach out expecting someone else to make them happy.
In truth we make ourselves happy first. Someone else being happy WITH us, is like icing on the cake.:mrgreen:

Just my thoughts. :peace:

After I started to think about it I realized that I had anxiety basically my whole life. When I was little I was really irritable and always anxious and worried about things. I started feeling depression at early teens and it hit really hard, im just glad Im still alive now. I am still depressed a lot of the time, and especially anxious when I havent smoked in a while.

I started praying and wishing that I could be more like other people, that I can communicate with people good and that I can concentrate better. Then I realized there IS sumthin wrong with me, and that Ill never be like most ppl, and I shouldnt want to be like other ppl. I have a lot of problems and I need to deal with them, weed definetly makes it easier for me to deal with my problems. My main goal now is to just take it 1 day at a time, and to look for a girl that I will love and she will love me back. My life is not the best now, but I will never give up hope, becuz i believe that ur dreams can come true and my life will be better 1 day.

If marijuana can make me feel like Im in heaven now while im high, theres no telling how good I will feel when my life is better and then I get high with my girl. It might sound stupid to some ppl but thats all I need in my life, my girl and my weed.
 

Philly_Buddah

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Lacy Thanx for the advice. Another bad thing is that I dont really feel emotions 2 much anymore. A lot of ppl say that I always have the same blank expression on my face. When I 1st started getting depressed at least i could cry or be happy and have other emotions. My emotions are so much weaker now, i dont really like to do anything anymore, but i force myself to get up in the morning. Weed is not the best thing in the world but i love it, and It gives me sumthin to look forward to. Once in a while when im high and i find some way to clear my head, i get the best feeling in the world like im in heaven, and the colors and smells all come to life, reminds me of when i was a kid. Thats the way I always want to feel.

I realize just finding a girl might not be the thing that makes me complete and happy all the time, but its that it might be like that, that keeps me goin. I dont have anyone right now. I got friends, and family but im not close to any of them anymore. Im just hopin that I can find a girl thats more like me. Ill find some way to get happy again just might take some time and a lot of weed lol.
 

Lacy

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Are you on any medications Philly? I found that many of my doctors over prescibed. Too many meds!!! Most meds they give for people with depressive disorders will do that. They numb your feelings and emotions. thats why although I take mine, I cut mine in half. My doctor knows and is fine with it.
I wouldn't worry about what others think about smokin' weed.
You know, I've smoked off and on for 30 years now and most of that time I spent worrying about the same things. Its only been recently that I've abandoned those thoughts and replaced them with healthier thougths.

God put the plant here for us to use. I don't feel guilty any more. Besides 'guilt' is a useless emotion. There's a difference to being consciously aware and feeling guilty.:peace:
Lacy Thanx for the advice. Another bad thing is that I dont really feel emotions 2 much anymore. A lot of ppl say that I always have the same blank expression on my face. When I 1st started getting depressed at least i could cry or be happy and have other emotions. My emotions are so much weaker now, i dont really like to do anything anymore, but i force myself to get up in the morning. Weed is not the best thing in the world but i love it, and It gives me sumthin to look forward to. Once in a while when im high and i find some way to clear my head, i get the best feeling in the world like im in heaven, and the colors and smells all come to life, reminds me of when i was a kid. Thats the way I always want to feel.

I realize just finding a girl might not be the thing that makes me complete and happy all the time, but its that it might be like that, that keeps me goin. I dont have anyone right now. I got friends, and family but im not close to any of them anymore. Im just hopin that I can find a girl thats more like me. Ill find some way to get happy again just might take some time and a lot of weed lol.
 

IggyZag

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I hear you on this I am prescribed to valium for anxiety and sleep disorder along with zoloft for bi-polar and manic depressive, never worked. Once I found cannabis, I havent slept better since nor have I been any happier not because of the high (though its great) but it truly is mother natures medicine, and god's gift. However being on this probation tends to fuck things up:(:(
 

Lacy

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I have bi-polar, social anxiety and pstd disorders. The sleep disorders come hand in hand with the bi-polar and I still get insomnia but refuse to take sleeping pills any more.
I been on so many prescription drugs, most of which were uneffective to say the least, that I honoured wondered if any of the doctors knew what they were doing.

I now take epival (for bi-polar)and effexor(for social anxiety) but don't take high amounts. Eevn my husband after 18 years FINALLY admits that weed really does help me more than anything else.


Yes being on probation would suck. Never had that problem and hope I never do. :wall:
I hear you on this I am prescribed to valium for anxiety and sleep disorder along with zoloft for bi-polar and manic depressive, never worked. Once I found cannabis, I havent slept better since nor have I been any happier not because of the high (though its great) but it truly is mother natures medicine, and god's gift. However being on this probation tends to fuck things up:(:(
 

Philly_Buddah

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I was on prescription pills for about 2 years but i quit taking them about 2 years ago becuz i didnt think they were helping much. My emotions are weak no, but they are stronger than when I was on medication. I cant remember all the names but they tried me on about 5 different pills. Mostly anti depressants.
 

Lacy

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Thats great that this works for you but my emotions are WAY out there and always overwhelming. And I mean every emotion. I can manage everyday originary daily life this way but if something tragic happens, I'm over the edge. Its just too risky for me not to be on any meds. I can't handle most anti-depressants but I find this effexor very effective for me.
Almost all people I talk to with bi-polar or some kind of depressive disorder get experimented with so many drugs, its mind bloggling. Most of the general public as well as doctors just don't know enough about it because it is such an individual thing. Each person's brain chemistry is so different.
Good luck with every thing Philly.:mrgreen::blsmoke:
I was on prescription pills for about 2 years but i quit taking them about 2 years ago becuz i didnt think they were helping much. My emotions are weak no, but they are stronger than when I was on medication. I cant remember all the names but they tried me on about 5 different pills. Mostly anti depressants.
 

Philly_Buddah

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Thanks Lacy. I was also on Effexor, and for longer then my other medications. Thats the medication that worked best for me too. I feel emotions but most the time I hide them without even realizing it, and when my emotions do come out its a lot. I can handle day to day stuff now too but if sumthin big happens i feel like im gonna go crazy. Now when sumthin bad happens I immediately think its just a dream and then go someplace else in my mind without wanting to. I think part of my problems are due to chemical imbalances and things and the other part is becuz of my environment and how depressing my life is. Its weird how little things can change u so much though. I had a girlfriend a while ago and she gave me somethin to look forward to and a reason to get up in the morning, even though i didnt like her a whole lot lol. I didnt realize how much better I felt until we broke up and then I went back to feeling bad. But that gave me hope becuz I know there is things out there that can change me so much and make me feel so much better.
 

ivebeencanceled

Well-Known Member
Its only because you have different brain chemistry. It is frustrating wishing you were normal like other people but the fact is we aren't.

I've spent so many years feeling like a loser because I smoke dope but since I don't feel like that any more. I think people that smoke daily just get sterotyped or labeled because people just don't know any better. Its an easy out for them.
Thank you lacy.
 

Lacy

New Member
I hate those anti-depressants. I refuse to take them now. Effexor is as close to an anti-depressant as I will take.
I'd rather exercise everyday.
I was on prescription pills for about 2 years but i quit taking them about 2 years ago becuz i didnt think they were helping much. My emotions are weak no, but they are stronger than when I was on medication. I cant remember all the names but they tried me on about 5 different pills. Mostly anti depressants.
 

giagemgal

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You all should be very proud of yourself. You have taken control of your body and realized it is called a Dr's practice for a reason. They practice on us and I am sick of being the lab rat.

3 years ago I took control of my life.

The list of medications I have been on would scare most people to death.

As of late, here was my list and now what is going on:

Cymbalta .....for pain and depression GONE

Lorazapam .....for anxiety and sleep...... 1 maybe every 3-4 days now instead of 2 every night.

Kadian.......for pain ...... GONE

Lithium......for stabiliazation from the effects of the pain ..... GONE

Oxycodone ...for pain...... 1 every now and then for breakthrough pain

Zonegram.....for the demylenation in my brain ...... GONE (almost killed me, allergic)

Prednisone......for God only knows...... GONE

Fen Patch.......Pain......GONE

Visteral.......for nausea......GONE

So, right now I take an occassional oxycodone for breakthrough pain and MMJ.

What do you call the guy/gal who graduates in medical school at the bottom???

DR.!!
 
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