joe macclennan
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thanks snaps! I try 
Designing a 15000sqft facility....please help
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kinddiesel
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my advice is you will fail . your going to big to fast. I would stop right now and save my self 20 grand . but if you insist then you need to hire a pro grower there very hard to find we don't put up flags or advertise. so mabe find a good grounds person. I personally would not do more then 3 rooms. 1 to clone 1 to veg and 1 to flower. if you get bugs on a few plants trust me you have bugs in every room. good luck. with this stay legal .
SnapsProvolone
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Well I wish you luck. You will get three bad opinions for every good one. Democracy and growing don't mix, meaning too many chefs in the kitchen blah blah.
Hire your grower. Then plan your grow needs.
Hire your grower. Then plan your grow needs.
kinddiesel
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lol . licensed commercial grower. so are you going to have to sell each ounce at a set rate ? around 100 an ounce no they don't deal with ounces . they deal with a pound . so they will tell you basically each ounce is going to be 750 bucks each pound to the government ? I am sure that's how it is going to be . it will not even cover your electric bills. this grow is intended for green house growers . I would not set a warehouse up to sell to the government . they can low ball you at any price they want . and have inspections any time they want, tax the fuck out of you . I personally would do a black market small scale grows all over before I dumped 20 to 30 k in cash into some thing that will more then likely wont work out . this is how this shit works out. only guys that will make money are growers out side in fields if it don't frost and green house grows . if you can set it up were you get goo sun, Canada from my understanding is horrible for growing out side . save your money. while your ahead
joe macclennan
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20-30k won't even cover the medium/containers and trays for an op of this scale
SnapsProvolone
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I disagree.
Were grossing over 2 million at 750 x 2880. Electrical maybe 750k / year at commercial rates.
Adding in other costs your making money even at $750/pack.
Where do we get the 750 figure, is this realistic? I am asking as I don't know.
Your info kinddiesel is incorrect. We set our own prices. Government wants nothing to do with that as stated by the reg. As well, outdoor grows arent even allowed, everything has to be indoors in a industrial style building. Basically, a patient goes to their doctor and gets a prescription for a certain amount of grams a day. They forward the prescription to us and we mail the meds out to the patient. Health canada is not part of that process. All they do is make sure that the facility is licensed, clean, safe, tracable (incase of a recall on product) etc.
Lo Budget
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If you've only got two weeks to pull this plan together and submit it for a license...
Listen to Snaps and Joe - they know their shit. You need a master grower. They should have been aboard from day one. I don't want to sound too harsh but the fact that you're soliciting advice on internet forums leads me to believe you're in over your head. That's Ok. It's not a knock against you it just means you'd better find a qualified master grower pronto. I don't think you have enough time to put it all together on your own. I wish you only the very best of luck. Godspeed!
Listen to Snaps and Joe - they know their shit. You need a master grower. They should have been aboard from day one. I don't want to sound too harsh but the fact that you're soliciting advice on internet forums leads me to believe you're in over your head. That's Ok. It's not a knock against you it just means you'd better find a qualified master grower pronto. I don't think you have enough time to put it all together on your own. I wish you only the very best of luck. Godspeed!
SnapsProvolone
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30 x 40 rooms? I would do 4 rows of 4x32 ft table. 32kW lighting. My reason, employees need room to move. This allows aisles for them to access the rows of table from both sides. The tables are static. Size reservoir properly and run the right mix and you can run it for 60 day cycle with just addbacks. Minimum of 20 gallon of reservoir for each foot of 4 foot wide table. If harvesting / loading one 32 foot row on same day then put it on one reservoir. Less reservoirs the easier to maintain.
m3d1c1n3man
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have you ever actually grown anything or just the consultant has?
Personally, without prior experience, I tend to start small and work my way up. Avoid disasters that way. And learn how it works. Then when you do it on a large scale, you know how to do it right.
Personally, without prior experience, I tend to start small and work my way up. Avoid disasters that way. And learn how it works. Then when you do it on a large scale, you know how to do it right.
Actually, their is no time limit. You can submit your application anytime. And things don't have to be constructed to apply. It is only a proposal. Once you get conditional approval, this is when you can start to build. Once your done building, Health Canada would send an inspector to verify that you've built things the way you proposed in the application that they conditionally approved. If that is the case, they would then grant you the license and you can begin growing. As well, we are planning to hire a qualified master grower. I don't act like I know everything. I believe that you need to put to put "aces in their places". I have ran many successful business, not because I knew everything, because I knew to hire the right people for the right job. This is what makes good management.
joe macclennan
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thanks man, but i'll be the first to admit there are a lot of things I can still learn...even after a decade. Those who think they have seen it all are the ones to watch out for.
I do know a bit about setup and design though. and what works/worked or hasn't....for me anyway.
and I agree about the over your head statement. The logistics alone for an op of this size would be difficult for the most experienced grower imo.
Basically we have to have a design for our application. I posted a design which would be similar to the finished design which the architect is currently working on. Once the design is complete, we will be having a security company and HVAC company add details to the design on security and air quality aspects. At that point we would be ready for city approval. Once they grant approval we would then be ready to submit to Health Canada. This aspect then takes about 3 months for conditional approval. Once this is granted, we are clear and free to start building a team to help run the facility.
Consultant has suggested using a software company called Triqsoft. Everything would run on tablets. Employees would how up for a shift and grab a tablet. Then they would log in and the tablet would tell them their duties for that shift and they would document their work on the tablet as they go. Seems like a really cool system. They have some videos on their website showing the program.
Consultant has suggested using a software company called Triqsoft. Everything would run on tablets. Employees would how up for a shift and grab a tablet. Then they would log in and the tablet would tell them their duties for that shift and they would document their work on the tablet as they go. Seems like a really cool system. They have some videos on their website showing the program.
SnapsProvolone
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Or a copy of microsoft office and a competent master grower. Tablets? that's really not required imho.
You need to be able to tract every plant from seed to finished product. In case of a recall, you need to be able to trace every gram back to its batch, to its motherplant and you need to be able to trace every plant that was in contact with it. Their is a lot more involved than a spellcheck