Did Ron Paul Win Iowa, Nevada, Minnesota, Colorado and Missouri?
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lifegoesonbrah
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Lies, exaggeration, twist. He isn't dead last in all national polls as you keep repeating.
National Polls vs Obama conglomeration on realclearpolitics
Romney: 43.9
Obama: 48.6
Paul: 41.3
Obama: 48.2
Santorum: 40.5
Obama: 50.9
Gingrich: 40
Obama: 51.7
Quit spreading misinformation.
National Polls vs Obama conglomeration on realclearpolitics
Romney: 43.9
Obama: 48.6
Paul: 41.3
Obama: 48.2
Santorum: 40.5
Obama: 50.9
Gingrich: 40
Obama: 51.7
Quit spreading misinformation.
UncleBuck
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lol, you tell me to stop spreading misinformation... why don't you check out that same website to see who is dead last in a conglomeration of national polls for the GOP nomination?
while you're there, do you mind telling me who is dead last in vote tally in the contests already held?
lifegoesonbrah
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Twist, change subject.... You said he was losing all the national polls so I posted a conglomeration of national polls that he is second in. Your parroting is faulty because he isn't last in all polls, but last in some polls. So quit repeating that fallacy please, k thanks.lol, you tell me to stop spreading misinformation... why don't you check out that same website to see who is dead last in a conglomeration of national polls for the GOP nomination?
while you're there, do you mind telling me who is dead last in vote tally in the contests already held?
UncleBuck
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that is not a reality-based poll, that is a hypothetical matchup which doesn't mean bupkus because it will never happen, especially with ronald polling dead last in national polls for the gop nomination.
also dead last in projected delegates by every available, reputable news source, despite his clever way of subverting the will of the people.
lifegoesonbrah
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I am just asking for a little honesty here, I don't think that is too much to ask. He isn't dead last in every poll. You know it, I know it. Quit pandering and stop repeating that Ron Paul is dead last in everything. Its simply not true. You once applauded me for admitting I was wrong and claimed you did the same. Well in this case sir you are wrong, Ron Paul is not last in everything.
UncleBuck
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you're right.
he is out in front when it comes to collecting delegates from precincts that voted for someone else.
midijunkie
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hes got my vote!
UncleBuck
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according to the latest gallup poll using 1200 registered voters (as opposed to the mere 405 adults, not voters, polled in the reuters/ipsos poll that put paul in second), ron paul is getting 8% of the vote nationally for the gop nomination.
so i'm sure he appreciates your support, he'll need everything he can get just to avoid a less humiliating defeat.
lifegoesonbrah
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And some polls, which you fail to admit, because you're 12.
st0wandgrow
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Chuckle. I'm talking about the general election, skippy.
Unelectable compared to Mitt Romney who has lost momentum compared to 2008?
Or Unelectable compared to Gingrich and Santorum who aren't even on the ballot in several states and have no real grassroots support?
Or did you just hear that on the TV? Fuckin Parrot
Yes, there are enough nutters in Texas to elect the guy to the Senate term after term. It's Texas. I suppose I would consider him electable if he had to run in the general election against the likes of Romney, Santorum, or Gingrich. Kinda like comparing cow shit with horse shit, so he might do OK.
But, the reality is on a national scale, in a general election, he doesn't stand a chance. Christ, he can't even get a majority of the votes within his own party. Whether you want to admit it or not, the guy is a loon. I like *some* of his ideas, as would most Americans. Ending wars, and cutting off foreign aid is something most Americans would support ..... but then he'd trot out some of his other hair-brained ideas like completely deregulating banks, and people will see him for what he is. A wing-nut!
Don't get your panties in such a wad, brah. He's a politician. It's not like I'm ripping on the wifey.
really comfy slippers
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Ron Paul is a wise man. You'd say the founding father were "wing nuts" too I'd bet... Disgrace
st0wandgrow
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It's all relative, slippers. What was common practice in the 1700's, may not apply today.
Our founding fathers owned slaves. Would you consider a slave owner in 2012 a "wise man", or a wing nut?
really comfy slippers
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It is all relative, agree'd.
So your putting the founding documents and slave ownership in the same parallel? We need to retreat to those documents now! Then once we are a renewed republic, we can build back off that with our lessons learned.. If in another 200 years there is another gental tyranny, or worse, put in progressively than they too can fall back on the founding documents.. Ahhhh the beauty of we the people.... I have faith in America and her liberty..
So your putting the founding documents and slave ownership in the same parallel? We need to retreat to those documents now! Then once we are a renewed republic, we can build back off that with our lessons learned.. If in another 200 years there is another gental tyranny, or worse, put in progressively than they too can fall back on the founding documents.. Ahhhh the beauty of we the people.... I have faith in America and her liberty..
mccumcumber
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I don't exactly understand what you're saying.
desert dude
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worked for obama.
I think you are alot like many people who don't understand what Ron Pauls policies are. He is for states rights and following the Constitution. Allow the states to handle things as you'll get rid of the one size fits all federal Government where changes are difficult. That extra layer of government adds to costs and doesn't move swiftly.
Our Federal Government has been the cause of most of our problems yet you want them to protect us? Why count on them to run your life? They have been bad at it. You can't possibly be worse at it than they are can you?
Gold Standard, he wants competing currencies. Gold is a lot harder to manipulate than paper money. When the Federal Reserve prints up money and gives it away to foreign and domestic companies thereby devaluing the purchasing price do you think many people would use paper when exchanging goods or would they use Gold? Its always best to have options.
Why do you want Congress to regulate Wall Street? The haven't done a good job so your answer is more of the same or more rules and regulations which weren't enforced before or had loopholes which made it more expensive for some? It's never about getting the right ones to enforce things. The right ones haven't come along in 100's of years what makes you think they'll come along now and stay with us? It's always about policy.
You're also wrong about no process to inspect food or water. Leave it to the individual first of course then to the states. If you get sick because of bad water you have no recourse if the water company has followed government rules. The company passes the buck and isn't responsible. Government okayed it. Try to sue government.
Let me tell how silly your assumptions are of wanting government to protect you in an everyday example. How does a health code certificate help you in a restaurant? Are you too stupid to figure it out for yourself if the restaurant is clean and has a healthy environment? Of course you're not. But you are passing the personal responsibility to a government agency that visits maybe once or twice a year. Go on the days the health department is there and you're in a good spot. Do you eat at a restaurant because they have a health certificate even though the toilets are overflowing and the cook keeps coughing into the soup pot? of course you don't.
Do many people actually know what the health inspection covers? If you haven't worked in a kitchen you probably don't know.
Don't we rely on friends for advice on what places to eat? We also rely on the media. If a newspaper food columnist raves about a restaurant and it turns out the restaurant stinks then that columnist may loose his job and the newspaper will suffer circulation wise.
Go to your dentist or eye guy and see there is a "certificate" on the wall. We don't know what it means. When I ask the dentist himself he said it was a way to take his money. He said it was a waste of time. I will tell you what those things are good for. Chasing out the ones with antiquated methods and techniques. Of course the lack of clients from not being good at your job will tell the consumer that too. But you also have to be aware some places will grandfather in the older doctors which are the very ones who need the training on the newer methods and equipment.
Ron Paul is for local control since that is the most effective form of government. Changes can be made easier, quicker and tailored to that area.
I'd say you always have to question government. You always have to watch over the ones in charge. If Ron Paul was elected president we'd still have to pay attention. Reagan ran on a few of the policies Ron Paul follows but Reagan changed once he came into office didn't he? Who in their right mind would own a business, hire someone to run it, and not look over it?
Slavery was a moral issue and government used force to enforce it. Government has never been moral but they will always use force to get what they want.