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tidalracepaddler

tidalracepaddler

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no my paypal pulled the payment from my account next day, so he had the money and after all was said and done the product was as described so i cant complain....i just was dissapointed that it took a full 2 weeks to recieve the product..i was stressin over my ladies! you know.
 
superhighme

superhighme

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panhead said:
Sorry for this hijack superhigh but im an ebay seller so i must know why this guy feels he was short changed.

Tell me,how did you pay for your ebay purchase.

Points of fact.

1 What paypal describes to buyers who use their service as an "instant payment" take's 3 days to process if the seller has payments deposited directly to his bank account,the same payment that paypal loves to refer to as the instant payment can take 2 full weeks to reach the seller if the seller does not have paypal linked directly to his account & receives a check in the mail.

2 Money orders are held by banks for up to 2 weeks before they are 100% clear,lenght of the hold is dependant on each bank not the seller.

3 Sellers have been scammed so many times by charge back scams threough the beloved paypal system that they now refuse to ship anything until all payments have cleared their bank & the cash is in their pocket,im one of those sellers.
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paypal taken directly from my bank account. it posted monday morning! :)
ive never seen paypal take more than 24hrs to post my payment to the seller.
 
superhighme

superhighme

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Stoney McFried said:
I dont wanna hijack your thread, superhigh...but question..can you overdo it with molasses? Ive been doing it molasses ,molasses, water. I'm on like day 33 of flowering(since May 5) and I'm seeing some yellowing leaves and a few dropping off...it was just the bottom fans, but its moving up to the other big fans, the little ones are ok.
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that seems like a lot of molasses but i dont think theres such thing as over feeding it. I would still switch to 2-3 tbsp per gallon in the order of feed, water,water, feed.
 
Rocky Top High

Rocky Top High

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I am not experienced so I will refrain from giving advice :-P but I can tell you that I believe you will get your package saturday or friday. From my experience of shipping I think you will be set by the weekend.

Please keep us informed cause I am curious as to your first impressions of those nutes. Your thread you started about them pulled me in. I lost your thread but I am certianly interested in them. Good luck!
 
Stoney McFried

Stoney McFried

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Cool thanks...once again sorry...I can expect a little yellowing during flower, right?
superhighme said:
that seems like a lot of molasses but i dont think theres such thing as over feeding it. I would still switch to 2-3 tbsp per gallon in the order of feed, water,water, feed.
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panhead

panhead

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superhighme said:
paypal taken directly from my bank account. it posted monday morning! :)
ive never seen paypal take more than 24hrs to post my payment to the seller.
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This is what paypal wants buyers to think.

Here is how it works.

You send payment,payment hits sellers paypal account,seller must accept payment,once payment is accepted it shows on YOUR paypal that payment has been recieved,what they neglect to tell you is that paypal is who recieved payment ,not the seller.

The seller must then either transfer payment to his personal bank account (3 day wait) or opt to have a check cut & sent to them in the mail which takes 2 weeks.

There is no such process where any seller recieves payment in any form within 24 hours but paypal will never tell buyers that,they add to buyers anger over things like delayed shipping because they lead buyers to believe that the seller has been paid.

Now the reason for a sellers delay in shipping,you pay & get notification of accepted payment,the seller ships out the very next day via ups 2nd day air but payment is still in computer land,you wait until the item reaches you then notify paypal or your credit card company that the item was damaged or the wrong item,paypal will automatically stop payment to the seller or deduct your payment from his account & refund you 100%,you still get to keep the item that there is nothing wrong with & all your cash.

Its called "the charge back scam" & its rampant with paypal.

I stand to gain nothing as i dont sell grow supplys on ebay,i just like to inform buyers what they are really dealing with when using paypal,sellers are scared as hell with paypal nowdays & the main reason they accept it is because buyers love the service not because it pays them quickly.
 
superhighme

superhighme

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panhead said:
This is what paypal wants buyers to think.

Here is how it works.

You send payment,payment hits sellers paypal account,seller must accept payment,once payment is accepted it shows on YOUR paypal that payment has been recieved,what they neglect to tell you is that paypal is who recieved payment ,not the seller.

The seller must then either transfer payment to his personal bank account (3 day wait) or opt to have a check cut & sent to them in the mail which takes 2 weeks.

There is no such process where any seller recieves payment in any form within 24 hours but paypal will never tell buyers that,they add to buyers anger over things like delayed shipping because they lead buyers to believe that the seller has been paid.

Now the reason for a sellers delay in shipping,you pay & get notification of accepted payment,the seller ships out the very next day via ups 2nd day air but payment is still in computer land,you wait until the item reaches you then notify paypal or your credit card company that the item was damaged or the wrong item,paypal will automatically stop payment to the seller or deduct your payment from his account & refund you 100%,you still get to keep the item that there is nothing wrong with & all your cash.

Its called "the charge back scam" & its rampant with paypal.

I stand to gain nothing as i dont sell grow supplys on ebay,i just like to inform buyers what they are really dealing with when using paypal,sellers are scared as hell with paypal nowdays & the main reason they accept it is because buyers love the service not because it pays them quickly.
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well my track record on ebay speaks for itself. mostly good feedback except for from the few bad transactions i had where they decided to use retaliation comments and false statements. what can ya do. cant make everyone happy. but I pay immediately after winning my bids. and typically that means within an hour of winning (shit i have internet access on my phone sooo... theres no reason to wait forever.
 
tidalracepaddler

tidalracepaddler

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panhead, i think you might be mistaken, i sell on ebay paypal purchasers only. when someone wins my bid i can see the balance on my bank account change as soon as they win the auction, and vice versa if i win an auction i can see the balance drop in my bank acct as soon as i win the bid, so.........im a little confused by your statements. i think you might have your facts wrong.
 
superhighme

superhighme

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Stoney McFried said:
Cool thanks...once again sorry...I can expect a little yellowing during flower, right?
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well it could be a nute problem but its pretty common on the bottom leaves as far as i've read and seen. I think it might have something to do with leaves growing over them so far that they recieve like no light. not sure if thats correct but thats what i could assume from it. Ive had some yellow leaves i just pulled em off. they were the under leaves as well.

if its traveling up to other leaves its probably a nute problem and i would check that plant abuse chart thing in the grow faq. its under plant problems or whatever. cause it has some good pictures to compare your problems to if it travels up to other leaves.

since you're flowering you should have a nute that is lower in N and high in P. so NPK should be like 15-30-30. 15-30-15. but you can get higher P's like in the 54's. not sure what nutes you're feeding. if it keeps traveling its probably a deficiency and not just dead leaves. if you have pictures you should make a thread for it so we can all see. that always helps. let me know if you make a thread and Ill try and see if i can tell whats up with it.
 
superhighme

superhighme

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k, cool, no pics as of yet, the only thing it looks like in the growfaq may be nute lock...ph is fine at 7.0.
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is it a hydro grow or soil grow? I think i remember you saying it was Soil, but you know i get deathly confused with who is doing what! haha.

well if its nute lock they usually say to flush the plant with 3x the water of the plants container size to solve the problem. at least from what i've heard. I have no experience with deficiencies except for my own reading. so far Ive been lucky and not had any, but if youre pretty sure its nute lock I'd flush her and wait a bit before starting up a feed again!
 
Stoney McFried

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Soil...yeah I thought I'd try flushing first as its the least pain in the ass...where the hell do you get chelated zinc anyway????!!!
superhighme said:
is it a hydro grow or soil grow? I think i remember you saying it was Soil, but you know i get deathly confused with who is doing what! haha.

well if its nute lock they usually say to flush the plant with 3x the water of the plants container size to solve the problem. at least from what i've heard. I have no experience with deficiencies except for my own reading. so far Ive been lucky and not had any, but if youre pretty sure its nute lock I'd flush her and wait a bit before starting up a feed again!
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superhighme

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Stoney McFried said:
Soil...yeah I thought I'd try flushing first as its the least pain in the ass...where the hell do you get chelated zinc anyway????!!!
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yeah definitely flush. I'd just measure out 3x your container size in buckets or something. let it sitout for a bit. or use distilled water (if you like to be expensive. i dont. :) we have good tap water here though) and then put the plant or plants in the sink/tub and flush your heart away. that way the water run off doesnt run off all over your grow area obviously :P

chelated zinc.... thats like a vitamin supplement. but they sell it at GNC. lol. Im guessing you're refferring to the zinc in plant food. Im not sure if you can just buy zinc alone but it is in plant foods. not sure which to suggest to you though. someone else might have an idea. read the back of your nutes. not sure what you're feeding but it will say if it has zinc and how much!
 
panhead

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tidalracepaddler said:
panhead, i think you might be mistaken, i sell on ebay paypal purchasers only. when someone wins my bid i can see the balance on my bank account change as soon as they win the auction, and vice versa if i win an auction i can see the balance drop in my bank acct as soon as i win the bid, so.........im a little confused by your statements. i think you might have your facts wrong.
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My facts are not wrong,there is a disparity between what paypal wants you to think is happerning & the reality of whats IS happening.

What happens when you walk into your bank & deposit a check in person,the funds show up on your account balance but they are not available funds until they clear the bank,are they?,same with paypal,the funds show up but they are really not there,paypal holds all monies for several days at the very least,this is not an instant transaction.

Paypal is not a bank & therefore is not regulated by any federal or local banking laws,paypal will not tell you these things nor are they listed in their faq,start communicating in person with your bank,check electronic posting times against clearing times & you find out what you've been led to believe from paypal is false.

Spend some time reading here to see some of the stuff paypal refuses to tell sellers.

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blinkykush

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Since your 2 weeks into flowering and using molasses, If i where you i would try and get a hold of some bone meal and give it to your plants. its organic and loaded in Phosphorus. I don't know i would just think the boost in phosphorus would be a plus until your nutes arrive.
 
tidalracepaddler

tidalracepaddler

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im cool with paypal, no beef with paypal, obviously you've had some circumstances that might not be in their favor and for the record i was wrong, it dosent show in my bank statements but it does post immediately to my paypal acct, of which i have a debit card for and if someone wins a bid i can immediately take my paypal debit card to the store and buy some beer, the funds are there immediately, i dont need a website to explain to me how paypal works, and if you need to comment more on this subject please go to my thread in the grow journal so we dont take up to much space from superhighme, since this IS her thread.

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superhighme

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blinkykush said:
Since your 2 weeks into flowering and using molasses, If i where you i would try and get a hold of some bone meal and give it to your plants. its organic and loaded in Phosphorus. I don't know i would just think the boost in phosphorus would be a plus until your nutes arrive.
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yeah. i was actually considering picking up some BM if they dont arrive by saturday. thats the biggest concern is them lacking Phosphorus more than anything. not to mention just being starved in general. but i posted pictures in my grow journal today and they are very perky and show no signs of being starving, so I figured tomorrows friday (day 2 of ship) so if they dont arrive tomorrow then saturday I'll probably pick up some bone meal since it they arent here saturday that means not till monday or tuesday.
 
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