Discoloration / Fan Leaves Clawing

Hey everyone, have been growing for the first time Regular OG Kush and until recently my 2 of my plants started to weep and claw with discoloration. One is lime green and not producing many Pistals on the top of the flower. Not sure what is going on, maybe PH lock out?
Thanks for any advice

This article is quite helpful. Maybe have already seen it https://www.rollitup.org/t/plant-moisture-stress-symptoms-and-solutions.150004/

Thank you for sending the link. Definitely some good advice in there. I’m still kinda stumped though unless I’m reading to much into it.
I did a flush on one of them prior to photo as my PH seemed high so they’re overly droopy. After 3 days of drying out period still not much has changed and PH still remains at 7.4 in soil when testing and I’m not seeing much growth as I was prior to this issue. As far as over watering and food, I only water when pots are light, food I only added at start of veg when potted, and right around the start of flower Week one with Organic ferts and Worm Castings with a boogie brew. That was 4 weeks ago, could this be nute Burn-as well as nite lock out?

I am still in training also but if using actual soil then ph plays less of a role. You can balance the soil ph with dolomite lime as a top dress. Also adds calcium which is good and feed as per normal. I am not an expert either and shared your frustrations. Don’t keep fertilising that’s not the answer as more might be going on. I had some issues early in my last grow and when I transplanted to much bigger pots boy did they like that. However your in flower so don’t do that. Hopefully a skilled grower will post soon. Good luck mate

Thanks man for the positive feedback. I did a digital soil PH test with a probe last night and I think I have an idea now of what’s wrong. Both my plants have Soil PH over 8…. My PH meter i was using to check water readings failed me midway through the grow and I’ve been putting in way to high PH’d water resulting in this.
now the question is what’s the quickest way to get this lower before they die? Flushing with 10gal of 6.0 ph’d water didn’t help any as they’re still sky high. Is Aluminum Sulfate a quick way to drop it?

Things haven’t gotten better…Anyone with some solid advice to fix this please let me know what you need to help diagnose. I’m thinking PH lock out with soil readings still but I’m not confident with my assumption

Looks like N tox to me.. What soil?

Overwatering and too much N.
Needs to dry out more bn waterings

Soil is a mix- Potting soil with 4-4-4 and worm castings mixed in with Perlite and some left over FF Coco Loco (10%) I’d guess of the medium. Was having great success with it until a week ago almost now. These plants were in veg for over 3 months before flower so re amended with 2-8-4 and worm castings a week 1 of flower. I don’t add any nutes to water other then molasses. 7 gallon fabric pots.
They look over watered now due to the flush I did just before photos, but previously I would only water them when the pot was light.

Any recommendations to get these girls back on track with your help would be great if it’s N toxic.This is grow # 3 for me and haven’t had this problem until now.

How much molasses? How often? Molasses can cause PH fluctuations.. Check your ph..

So all was going well until you gave the 284?

I grow with dry amendments and just straight water,never check my water pH anymore as I use promix that has lime in it plus I add dolomite lime and oyster shell to keep the soil pH balanced.

I wouldn't give straight 284 till at minimum 2 weeks into flower. You should have top dressed with the 444 or a mix of 444 and 284 with more 444 than 284. You don't want to stop all N as soon as you go to flower, your plants need lots of N for the stretch at first 2-3 weeks of flower. I usually top dress with 444-75%-284-25% first week or sometimes just 444, then 2-3 weeks do 50/50 then week 4 or 5 you can use just 284.
Did you flush to run off?
If you are just using soil and not feeding in your watering and now you could have flushed your plants of all the nutrients in your soil leaving them with nothing to feed on.

Not much- 1TBSP-/5Gals throughout watering cycles. I checked PH in the soil today with a digital soil probe and it’s high. 7.8-8 in all 3 plants. This has me stumped though, the 3rd plant is the same seed and it’s doing just fine with no symptoms that I can see of, yet. A mis-calibrated PH meter, didn’t know it until plants were showing this.

Question is, after a flush on both plants how am I at this reading almost 8ph? I read adding coco coir as a top mulch may help absorb some of the N and help dry out the rest of the soil. Any thoughts on this or other ideas that won’t add to my issues?
Photo of the 3rd plant here, I’d say she’s looking good? Same exact, soil mix, pot size, feeding, and watering schedule…

Justblazin- Went into Flower Aug24th, I re-amended the soil I think roughly 1-2 weeks after with -284 plus worm castings to help with N, but I probably messed up on the cycle. I like the cadence you laid out. They were showing no signs of hunger, from what I could tell other.
I did flush to run off and then some, my PH is crazy high so thought that was best approach. Waiting for them to dry out, but if they’re now starved of al nutes- what should I add and when? Went into flower August 24, so if I messed up on feeding would prob make sense on timing now
Thanks for everyone’s help on this. Learning a lot to say the least

UpNorth715 said:

Justblazin- Went into Flower Aug24th, I re-amended the soil I think roughly 1-2 weeks after with -284 plus worm castings to help with N, but I probably messed up on the cycle. I like the cadence you laid out. They were showing no signs of hunger, from what I could tell other.
I did flush to run off and then some, my PH is crazy high so thought that was best approach. Waiting for them to dry out, but if they’re now starved of al nutes- what should I add and when? Went into flower August 24, so if I messed up on feeding would prob make sense on timing now
Thanks for everyone’s help on this. Learning a lot to say the least

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You might be better off giving them some bottled nutes if you have depleted the soil due to flushing. The dry amendment top dressing take a little bit to become available to the plant, that's why I say use the bottles if you can.
You want to top dress before you see problems when using dry organic nutes, cause once you see problem it's takes to long to rectify with just top dressing.
Next time you grow top dress 444 at the start of flower unless you just up potted your plants then at week 1 or 2 give a mix of 444 and 284, 25-50% 444 and give more 284 with each top dressing. Some people top dress every week others every 2 weeks.

Just a FYI
I have never flushed since switching to organics. It's one of the reasons I switched, I hate wasting all that water. In organics when you flush your taking a bunch of nutrients out of your soil.
A good soil that's been properly amended should regulate the pH by itself as long as you amend with lime and/or oyster shell.
A great saying on here
Flushing......is for toilets.
Flushing is really only for growers using salt nutrients. When they get build up of salts or if there pH is out of whack but your using organic soil so it shouldn't be a problem.
If I was you I would let it dry out and give them some type of bottled nutes. Like pure blend or something if you can.
But hey I'm no expert, just some dude with a tent in his basement

Definitely I will give it a try, I have the FF 3 way blend so I can give them liquid nites. But, you think it’s not a PH problem and it a food problem instead or both?

What kind of light and how close to the tops? Could easily be light or heat stress.

I have 2 lights in the tent, 2- viparspectra P1000’s. 1 is the older model, and 1 is newest. The Tents a 4x2. The newest light is above the plant on the left at 16” to tops, right side older light is 12” above tops. The problematic plant is under the new light though, but is 16” above which I thigh was in range?

As of today, only 1 plant is struggling to come back and it’s looking like it my other is coming back around. Here is a photo of what it’s looking like now…small airy buds formed. Still hasnt dried out completely after it’s flush a week ago today.

Yes it seems to be within range. Sorry, don't have any advice or insight on what your issue might be.