UncleBuck
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the extent of it wasn't known at the time.
what does this have to do with you being wrong about literally everything?
DNC Email Leak
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what does this have to do with you being wrong about literally everything?
Padawanbater2
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I said "our intelligence agencies", not "17 of our intelligence agencies". The fact remains valid. Our intelligence agencies supported the intelligence that got us into the war in Iraq. That's why I asked you if you believe we should accept everything our intelligence agencies report as fact. I didn't ask you If you believe "we should accept everything 17 intelligence agencies report as fact".
Do you have a link for this claim?
Padawanbater2
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Sanders knew it was bullshit at the time, that's why he voted against it
Why do you think he was able to judge the situation measurably better than Clinton at the time they actually voted on the war having seen the exact same evidence?
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UncleBuck
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you were so busy stroking that hillary clinton hate boner that you never paid attention during the campaign. no wonder you're repating trump lies.
http://www.npr.org/2016/10/11/497520017/trump-apparently-quotes-russian-propaganda-to-slam-clinton-on-benghazi
i bet you were so asshurt about hillary stomping bernie down the drain with complete ease that you rooted for trump.
fucking collaborator shitbag.
ttystikk
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Insiders.
Heavy hitters.
Donors.
These are the kinds of people that cost the Democrats so dearly in the last few elections.
We cannot run 'Republican lite' and expect success, either in filling offices or passing the kinds of policy changes the majority of American citizens want.
That's because the end of the aristocratic class IS what Americans want.
UncleBuck
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still pledging allegiance to dear cult leader, eh?
Padawanbater2
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LMFAO
ttystikk
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You are the one kneeling and sucking the cocks of the establishment Democrats, not me.
I refuse to accept the same old influence peddling by mega donors as anything new- or worth voting for. I'm not alone and you have done an excellent job of showing just how strong that position is.
You have no answers, just more personal attacks. It's as if you've become Republican.
In fact, since that's what you want the Democratic Party to be, why don't you just go be a republican? We don't want you.
ttystikk
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Yeah, well what about them?
Are we supposed to accept a corrupt Democratic Party just because the other alternative is worse?!
I think you've just defined what's wrong with the current state of American politics.
How about 'no'. No more donors. No more influence peddlers. No more corporate campaign cash.
Maybe you can explain what's wrong with the Will of the People, as opposed to the rule of dollars?
Padawanbater2
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I mean.. you rail on Conservatives to this day for getting us into the Iraq war, and yet, your favorite politician voted in support of it regardless of the evidence other, better politicians knew better of.. It was popular at the time, and she had bigger political ambitions.. She calculated at the time voting against it would be detrimental to her political future. Sanders voted in accordance with his values. Ironic, right?
Lmao
Lmao
tangerinegreen555
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Lol.
The will of the people?
The 'people' are the ones who voted in assholes last November. The 'people' must be pretty stupid most of the time, believing in fake news.
The will of the people elected Trump. It's not like the will of the people matches what you advocate over the last 35 years.
Who are the 'people'? The Trump base? The establishment Democrats? The tiny fraction of progressive Democrats? The establishment neocons?
There's a whole lot of 'people'. They aren't all sharing your philosophy. How are you going to win some of them over?
ttystikk
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Well, bribery and propaganda don't seem to be working so hot.
One of the reasons people voted for Trump was for change. Did you ignore or tune out all those interviews admit how Mrs Clinton was the embodiment of the very establishment they were sick of?
Honesty seems to be completely beyond the ability of America's political system anymore.
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tangerinegreen555
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I don't pay much attention to wing nuts.
And 'honesty' has fucking never played a big role in American politics.
Perhaps it should.
tangerinegreen555
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Let me know when 3 people on a weed site change the American political system (that is too far to the right over the last 35 years) by endorsing more liberal Democratic candidates.
I'll be waiting patiently, thanks.
You only need 1 to change things, so we have 3x more than what we need.
tangerinegreen555
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OK, then. I'm going to take a nap and when I get up in a half hour, I'll be expecting a new political landscape.
If one persons light bulb goes on because of something I said, I consider it job well done.
Take things in workable pieces..baby steps..we are a very young country and anything can happen.
Now I'm getting ready for work..enjoy your nap!
Get back to work.