Do You Support or Oppose Capital Punishment?

Death Penalty? Yeah I oppose the Death Penalty...Some crimes deserve a lifetime of torture instead.

No, really, I don't care one way or the other, as long as I stay off death row.

oppose, as the justice system is imperfect.

accepting the death penalty means accepting that a certain number of innocent people will die.

not to mention that it has not been proven to be a deterrent, less costly, etc.

Generally oppose it due to the fact sometimes an innocent person gets executed.

1 execution of an innocent is enough for me to be 100% against it.

If there were a way to know 100% ++++ EVERY TIME of somebodies guilt I would be pro death death penalty for more things than are on the list now.

When you have a fort hood shooter, give me 10 people that seen him do it and hang the mofo in public.

An old black man I worked with once told what kept him away from the law was chain gangs. Said he didn't want any part of that shit.

If I could be 100% certain that no innocent person would be executed I would support it. There are too many incidents of wrongful conviction in every jurisdiction to have such confidence though. There are people on death row at the moment in several US states that have been convicted in very suspicious circumstances, and over the years hundreds of people worldwide have been released after new forensic methods such as DNA testing showed that they were innocent of the crimes for which they were convicted. According to theinnocenceproject(dot)org 17 people who spent time on death row in the US have been freed to date due to new DNA evidence. Scarier even than that statistic is the suspicion that in some places in China prisoners have been executed for relatively minor crimes and their organs sold for transplant. I support the death penalty only in circumstances where there can be absolutely no doubt of guilt, and where execution serves the public good - i.e. self-confessed serial killers and other mass murderers. One who comes to mind is Anders Breivik, the guy who slaughtered dozens of teenagers at a youth camp in Norway this summer. To my mind such a person might be executed by joint order between a nation's judiciary and head of state without any significant worry over innocence, and it would serve to give closure to his vicitms families if he were executed for this crimes.

I'm all for it until they come up with something better. Some may say it's not a good deterrent, that's debatable, but criminals knowing there is no death penalty can't possibly be a deterrent. Life in prison isn't a picnic, but it's three squares a day, activities, computers, tv, movies, woodworking, anal sex (could be a plus for some) and that beats a needle in the arm and eternal darkness in my book. If I had a real hard on to kill someone (which is almost inconceivable), I would certainly think twice if I lived in a state that had the death penalty.

The death penalty isnt a detterant
its retribution
And not a good enough one for some
I support a meat grinder for some people
a slow feeding into a meat grinder feet first

Want an example?

Dick Cheney

Against it. Innocent people have been put to death. I will never support it.

MuyLocoNC said:

I'm all for it until they come up with something better. Some may say it's not a good deterrent, that's debatable, but criminals knowing there is no death penalty can't possibly be a deterrent. Life in prison isn't a picnic, but it's three squares a day, activities, computers, tv, movies, woodworking, anal sex (could be a plus for some) and that beats a needle in the arm and eternal darkness in my book. If I had a real hard on to kill someone (which is almost inconceivable), I would certainly think twice if I lived in a state that had the death penalty.

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find me a reputable study that shows evidence for the death penalty being a deterrent.

I am certainly not against putting to death serial killers, sexual predators and the like, however as has been stated the system is flawed. Better 10 get off than 1 innocent die.
Some crimes DO demand death IMHO, not as retribution, but to protect society as a whole. Life in prison has 2 problems. 1) escape is always a possibility, or a release due to a clerical screw up. and 2) I have a real problem supporting someone for life, no matter how meagerly, that has committed a heinous crime. If a person is decided to be unfit to be amongst society, either exile them to a place they cannot harm us, or take 'em out.

humm in a system where people are regularily told, accept the punishment, its going to be much more horrible if you go to court, hard to say its not flawed..

in more civilized countries americans are considered barbarians with a devoutly unjust criminal system. (judged by any gook off the streets? id at least want people with a mininum iq)

hmm, i rather think though id want the death penalty over life in american prisons. (though id probably just work any opportunity to escape to mexico (specially if it was for drugs, gonna prison me or kill me (bit more uncivilized countries kill for drugs)well, i think i would kill some guards and escape, they wouldnt be exactly innocent in my eyes and id have nothing to lose)

tell ya this though, usually when i see pics of condemned to die, american inmates (hey its a big loud country, sometimes this is news elsewhere)

those "killers" just look like retards, like some poor mutt thats had a horrible life and learned nothing but bite and run.
below average iq and ghetto life.

the inmates from texas usually look way below average iq, practically drooling.

sounds pretty much more like the nazi way of killing retards to save the genepool, though at least you wait till they misbehave. (retards raised in a country that ideolizes violence..lol and you wonder why)

UncleBuck said:

find me a reputable study that shows evidence for the death penalty being a deterrent.

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Yeah, I'm not your errand boy, go find it your fuckin self. I clearly said it would be a deterrent for me, I don't need a study for that. And as I also said in the post you quoted, a criminal knowing there isn't a death penalty certainly wouldn't be a deterrent, would it? You people act like making a common sense conclusion is impossible unless some pack of libs gives it a thumbs up. Eat too much you get fat, jump off a tall building and you die, remove the death penalty and criminals will be more afraid to kill people... which one smacks of nonsense?

If you can't even admit that, you're probably one of the useful idiots that think more stimulus and increases in taxes will actually improve the economy. Fortunately, as you now see to your abject horror, you are in a very small minority.

Im against it even for people who are guilty of crimes for the most part..exception would be tyrants that commit genocide and are guilty

I oppose it, it never really brings justice and even one innocent person being executed is worth letting a hundred guilty go free.

I believe in the foundation of our country. Property rights. The government does not own its citizens, therefor it does not own their life. That life is the property of that individual. That individual can take their own life.
Just like government cannot tell someone what they can or cannot put into their own body. Same reason there should be no draft. Government does not own you.
No one has the right to take the life of another unless in self defense.

MuyLocoNC said:

Yeah, I'm not your errand boy, go find it your fuckin self. I clearly said it would be a deterrent for me, I don't need a study for that. And as I also said in the post you quoted, a criminal knowing there isn't a death penalty certainly wouldn't be a deterrent, would it? You people act like making a common sense conclusion is impossible unless some pack of libs gives it a thumbs up. Eat too much you get fat, jump off a tall building and you die, remove the death penalty and criminals will be more afraid to kill people... which one smacks of nonsense?

If you can't even admit that, you're probably one of the useful idiots that think more stimulus and increases in taxes will actually improve the economy. Fortunately, as you now see to your abject horror, you are in a very small minority.

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tying stimulus and taxes to the death penalty? well, aren't you special now.

in other words, you have NO FUCKNG PROOF that the death penalty actually acts as a deterrent. was that so hard to admit now? was it hard to admit that evidence and facts stand opposed to your anecdotal bullcockery?

UncleBuck said:

tying stimulus and taxes to the death penalty? well, aren't you special now.

in other words, you have NO FUCKNG PROOF that the death penalty actually acts as a deterrent. was that so hard to admit now? was it hard to admit that evidence and facts stand opposed to your anecdotal bullcockery?

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Let's see if the third time is a charm. I CLEARLY SAID IT WOULD BE A DETERRENT FOR ME. FURTHERMORE, THE ABSENSE OF A DEATH PENALTY COULD CLEARLY NOT BE A DETERRENT.

If you would like to refute either statement, feel free to provide evidence or simply an argument based on common sense. I don't need charts and graphs to have a conversation, as some do.

He will need to see a study that reflects that or he won't believe that. LMAO