does cbd oil work for you?

Does CBD Oil work for you

  • yes

    Votes: 14 60.9%
  • no

    Votes: 9 39.1%

  • Total voters
    23

Ozumoz66

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Yes, the buds had a wonderful terpene profile. Perhaps because he let them grow till the end of October. Great meds.
Cannabis is a tough plant. Takes a real beating but recovers with some TLC.

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NewEnglandFarmer

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Wow, great comeback on that plant. I though mine was damaged...just a had a couple broken limbs.

I harvested mine the week after Columbus Day...buds looked ready and mold was becoming a risk. But judging by the trichomes they seemed mature.

My first taste of CBD, am dialing in the optimum dose, nice relaxing effects but fully functional.
 

Ozumoz66

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Eating decarboxylated hemp is pretty cool. 1.5 grams gets me going. I am experimenting with decarboxylation in terms of temperature and time.
The high temperature i have used is 250F for 30 mins. Next, im going to try 280F for 60 mins.

Anyone offer input, please do
Some of the beneficial elements of cannabis are destroyed at 246F. So it's important to keep temperatures below that during decarboxylation.
Depending on the CBD content of your buds, eating 1.5 grams can be a lot. My Dinamed CBD plus had 13.7% CBD - which is 137mg per gram. Many people mistakenly take CBD like they would a Tylenol, as needed, hoping for relief, yet that's not how CBD works. One needs to consume it daily for it to function. Every person's dose is different. Here is a dosing chart for a guideline.
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Ozumoz66

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CBD does absolutely nothing for me I've ingested and Vaped grams of broad-spectrum in full spectrum distillate as well as isolate it never felt anything. When i8 a couple grams of CBD isolate it upset my stomach and I felt a little nauseous other than that nothing
Wow, that's a lot of CBD! 2 grams of isolate is 2000mg - about 100 times more than I consume daily. Your liver must've been working overtime to metabolize that much CBD - comparable to drinking a couple kegs when a six pack would suffice. I wouldn't recommend taking more than 250mg of CBD daily because of how it taxes the liver.
 

Ozumoz66

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Ive never used it at a dose that I would know. I feel like CBD oil is something i would need to eat grams of or use grams of as a topical to know if it has any affect. The whole dosing it out in milligrams like its a drug is what makes it snake oil.
I respectfully disagree. My Guinness has 4.2% ABV and my whisky is 40% ABV. Tylenol, vitamins and all medications are produced with a specific scientific unit of measure to establish consistency.

I do agree that there are many products on the market that are completely worthless. Whole plant matter extracts are the only way to go imo, as single cannabinoid extracts (isolate) do very little for some people. Grow your own, get it tested and formulate extraction accordingly.
 

Lockedin

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I respectfully disagree. My Guinness has 4.2% ABV and my whisky is 40% ABV. Tylenol, vitamins and all medications are produced with a specific scientific unit of measure to establish consistency.

I do agree that there are many products on the market that are completely worthless. Whole plant matter extracts are the only way to go imo, as single cannabinoid extracts (isolate) do very little for some people. Grow your own, get it tested and formulate extraction accordingly.
On that note:

Is there such a thing as CBD Hash?

re: My favorite pain killer med is full melt hash - the best has a definite narcotic effect that rivals a low dose of an opiate - half a vicodin 5 if you will.
I'm wondering if there is a similar full-plant concentrate for the CBD / Low THC* market?
*I feel a little THC enhances CBD greatly.
 

Ozumoz66

Well-Known Member
On that note:

Is there such a thing as CBD Hash?

re: My favorite pain killer med is full melt hash - the best has a definite narcotic effect that rivals a low dose of an opiate - half a vicodin 5 if you will.
I'm wondering if there is a similar full-plant concentrate for the CBD / Low THC* market?
*I feel a little THC enhances CBD greatly.
Yes, absolutely. Hash can be made with any CBD/THC strain. Dry sift is a great way to get the goodness from the plant. I enjoy kief (or hash) in a bong with a screen - very simple, effective, tasty and immediate. Dry sift (kief) has a longer shelf life than hash as one is not popping the trichomes. Agreed, that some THC enhances the beneficial attributes of CBD. Sort of like a smile to go with the relief of what ails one.
I made a dry sift tumbler long ago with a 100 micron stainless steel mesh and powered it with a rotisserie motor - slow tumble to keep from smashing too much plant matter. Capturing and separating the first half hours worth of kief is where the full melt goodness comes from. The remaining 4 hours of tumbling still yields some fantastic kief. I've decarbed kief and packed 00 capsules for a powerful pain reliever that last quite a while. Combustion is quicker though.
 
It definitely works. The main difference with traditional marijuana smoking is that it is healthier, and the effect longs shorter. It all depends on the quantity of liquid you smoke, but it is not longer than thirty minutes in the majority of cases. But if you are a non-smoking person, a good alternative for you can become marijuana capsules. It gives you the same sensation, that depends from one to four hours. It all depends on your body and how you feel when you swallow the capsule. The main advantage is that capsules are healthier.
 

HumbleNMotivated

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The whole dosing it out in milligrams like its a drug is what makes it snake oil.
I agree that based on the current cost per mg is what makes it not work for me. I have no issues with buying CBD isolate or full spectrum CBD distillate and then making my own tinctures because it makes things exponentially more affordable. I generally also prefer my CBD with THC for an entourage effect. Making my own tinctures with CBD allows me to choose the strain the THC comes from as well as choose my own CBD to THC ratios.

When I use CBD personally I try for a single dose around 75mg - 150mg of CBD. So for example CBDistillery full spectrum CBD Oil Tincture = 30ml / 500mg CBD @ $45. Translates to $.09 per mg CBD. 75mg dose costs $6.75 or 150mg dose costs $13.50.

I can get full spectrum CBD distillate for as low as $1.50 a gram if you buy more than 500g at a time. More realistically from $3.5 to $5 a gram if I buy 10 to 20 grams at a time.
 

NewEnglandFarmer

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I agree that based on the current cost per mg is what makes it not work for me. I have no issues with buying CBD isolate or full spectrum CBD distillate and then making my own tinctures because it makes things exponentially more affordable. I generally also prefer my CBD with THC for an entourage effect. Making my own tinctures with CBD allows me to choose the strain the THC comes from as well as choose my own CBD to THC ratios.

When I use CBD personally I try for a single dose around 75mg - 150mg of CBD. So for example CBDistillery full spectrum CBD Oil Tincture = 30ml / 500mg CBD @ $45. Translates to $.09 per mg CBD. 75mg dose costs $6.75 or 150mg dose costs $13.50.

I can get full spectrum CBD distillate for as low as $1.50 a gram if you buy more than 500g at a time. More realistically from $3.5 to $5 a gram if I buy 10 to 20 grams at a time.
Interesting, I've never seen the cost broken down like that, important perspective. I've never bought any myself, just toying around with what I grew.

Also interesting that your dose is that high--I was more in the 40-50mg range. I'll have to experiment more. Based on my research so far, everyone responds differently and there's kind of "sweet spot" in terms of dose. Taking more doesn't always translate into bigger effect--sometimes you can overshoot and feel nothing. The whole endocannabanoid system is very mysterious!
 

green_machine_two9er

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I tried the hemp bombs a few times. Shit fucks me up. Like a took a damn flexerall. Too relaxed. Too tired. Can’t function. Mind is working fine no “high” just pissed that I can’t stop ducking yawning.
 

HumbleNMotivated

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Interesting, I've never seen the cost broken down like that, important perspective. I've never bought any myself, just toying around with what I grew.

Also interesting that your dose is that high--I was more in the 40-50mg range. I'll have to experiment more. Based on my research so far, everyone responds differently and there's kind of "sweet spot" in terms of dose. Taking more doesn't always translate into bigger effect--sometimes you can overshoot and feel nothing. The whole endocannabanoid system is very mysterious!
Very true. There is no exact singular answer for every situation and it's important to keep that in mind.

Just because you have one gram of full spectrum CBD distillate does not mean it tests the same as my one gram of full spectrum CBD distillate. Same company different batch even. Maybe yours tests at 80% CBD by weight and mine test 72% by weight ( just random numbers ).

There are also different bioavailability ranges depending on consumption method. I've seen different studies use different ranges so don't crucify me if you search and come up with a different range. I'm just bringing it up incase you haven't considered it before.

Just going off of a quick search Oral consumption via capsule or other edible = 6-15% for CBD. Sublingual via lozenge or hard candy dissolved under the tongue = 20-35% for CBD. Suppository = 40-70% for CBD. So below would be my 75mg dose given the high and low ranges of the different consumption methods...

Edible:
75mg at 6% = 4.5mg.
75mg at 15% = 11.25mg.

Sublingual:
75mg at 20% = 15mg.
75mg at 35% = 26.25mg.

Suppository:
75mg at 40% = 30mg.
75mg at 70% = 52.5mg.

The type of carrier oil used in a tincture can probably have a large affect as well. There is some small clinical trials done on nanoemulsified CBD increasing bioavailability so certain products probably use that as a selling point.
 
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