Dolomite lime mix in soil + water?

hyroot

hyroot

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woody333333 said:
I watched your video from last thursday.... im not impressed

expected more from a guy who knows everything
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what ever. I dont make.those videos for.your benefit.

im running New led lights all new strains from seed. except quantum kush and 9lb hammer. Only plant having problems is L.a.con. Everything else us happy. And green.
 
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woody333333

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hyroot said:
what ever. I dont make.those videos for.your benefit.

im running New led lights all new strains from seed. except quantum kush and 9lb hammer. Only plant having problems is L.a.con. Everything else us happy. And green.
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led guys and their excuses..... ive seen better gardens that use lime
 
hyroot

hyroot

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woody333333 said:
led guys and their excuses..... ive seen better gardens that use lime
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various spectrums cause plants to react differently.

nutrient uptake, watering times, root growth.

like I said only one is having problems. The rest are doing great. Big green green and very frosty.

you always talk shit and argue. Yet you watch my videos and follow.my thread and my instagram. Lol
 
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woody333333

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hyroot said:
various spectrums cause plants to react differently.

nutrient uptake, watering times, root growth.

like I said only one is having problems. The rest are doing great. Big green green and very frosty.

you always talk shit and argue. Yet you watch my videos and follow.my thread and my instagram. Lol
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I don't follow your thread or instagram ..... did you think I was a fan?...lol....
 
cityworker415

cityworker415

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hyroot said:
various spectrums cause plants to react differently.

nutrient uptake, watering times, root growth.

like I said only one is having problems. The rest are doing great. Big green green and very frosty.

you always talk shit and argue. Yet you watch my videos and follow.my thread and my instagram. Lol
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Haters gonna hate Hy

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thisusernameisnottaken

thisusernameisnottaken

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It settle at the bottom but the water is still white on the label it says that also humans and animals can eat it. Its pure dolomite from the dolomite mountains.

I also use botanicare cal/mag+ but it have to much N 2-0-0 most plants get N toxicity from it I dont have time for all this drama why did they put so much N in to it? I thought growing pot was easy and anyone could do it?

az2000 said:
I think we're talking about 3 different things.

  1. Being "there" a year later implies how long it takes to be exhausted. That's a function of the size of the particles, the moisture level of the soil and its acidity (it requires low ph to release the carbon from the magnesium and calcium carbonates.).
  2. The rapidity of ph adjustment. Again, a function of how low the soil ph is and the size of the dolomitic material.
  3. The availability of magnesium and carbon. Again, a function of soil ph and size of material.

I have performed a test with multiple containers from 0 to 8tbsp/gal fine/powdered dolomite. I saw nearly immediate ph adjustment from 5.8 to 6.4. The amount of dolomite used had a negligible effect on this.

It's conceivable that if the soil were 6.4 it would "take years" for the dolomite to have an effect (ph adjustment or nutrient availability). It would be "there" next year.

It's conceivable that during the initial 2 weeks that I saw adjustment there was an unhealthy release of calcium and magnesium as the carbonates were broken down. This could be a reason to "let it cook." It would then depend on each individual's starting soil ph.

IMO, it would be better to use hydrated lime to raise the ph to an initial 6.5, and dolomitic lime as a slower-acting buffer to hold it there.



Is it in suspension or dissolved? Does it settle after leaving it set overnight? If it's suspended, I think the problem you'll have is that the particles will filter out within the first 1-2" of soil. You'll have layers of soil ph. This is what people complain about when cultivating dolomite into the topsoil. It doesn't get all the way into the soil after watering.

I've been told by two knowledgeable (multiple degrees including horticulture) people that agricultural lime sold with a guaranteed analysis is actually soluble. That it is somehow extracted and made into a resin that is then ground or pelletized. I want to talk to them more about it to understand. This might be the difference between home growers and farmers.

If I can get more info about this, I will post. My conversation with them had to do with Grow More's dolomite product which is pelletized. I was told it dissolves in water and is as fast acting as powdered dolomite. (Still seems like it wouldn't produce even results in the soil when concentrated into pellets.).
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az2000

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thisusernameisnottaken said:
I also use botanicare cal/mag+ but it have to much N 2-0-0 most plants get N toxicity from it I dont have time for all this drama why did they put so much N in to it?
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They use calcium nitrate which produces calcium and nitrogen. Almost all calmag products use that. If you don't want N, General Organics CaMg+ has none. It's more of an acidic liquid that has broken the calcium carbonates (think dolomite, or egg shells) into ca for faster availability.

If your water is around 150ppm and you have some dolomite in the soil, you shouldn't need to use calmag. You can treat mg and ca defs with epsom salt and gypsum respectively. (I dissolve eggshell in vinegar and dehydrate it into a powder. I use this instead of gypsum because it's more soluble.).

thisusernameisnottaken said:
I thought growing pot was easy and anyone could do it?
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It is very easy after you get 4-5 basics down. I recommend choosing someone and follow what they do. What I do is pretty simple, using inexpensive nutrients that cost about $1 per plant, per grow. No calmag. No ph adjustment. It might seem complicated compared to boutique "lineup" products. But, in the end I think it's simpler because I'm more aware of what my plants are receiving, I read the plants, give them what they need. I don't follow a "schedule" blindly (although I do have one).

I'd be happy to share with you what I do.

EDIT: Probably the simplest way to grow for a newbie is Pro-Mix HP and Gen Hydro Flora Series 3-part. Follow the "useless" schedule. Use RO water and 3-4ml/gal calmag. It's almost impossible to mess that up.

I don't think that's the best way. I've moved on to what I think is the best way. :) But, that's easy and hard to mess up.
 
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bravedave

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az2000 said:
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I'd be happy to share with you what I do.

EDIT: Probably the simplest way to grow for a newbie is Pro-Mix HP and Gen Hydro Flora Series 3-part. Follow the "useless" schedule. Use RO water and 3-4ml/gal calmag. It's almost impossible to mess that up.
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I would interested in a rundown of your current routine.
 
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az2000

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bravedave said:
I would interested in a rundown of your current routine.
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Visit my profile and go to the "Information" tab. I wrote that about a month ago and decided I'd be better off creating a journal/blog page. I'll work on that soon and let you know, adding more detail. But, that profile page is most of it.
 
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