Rootbound420
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Yea and cant find promix anywhere. I can find it in the 1 quart bags but not 2cu ft. Or even 1.5cu ft.
Dr earth dry amendments with organic soil
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Rootbound420
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Quick question for you! Found some pro mix finally. What should i add to it? Or whats the best mix you have used?
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MrX2017
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I used this for years, before they came out with the organic one. Basic stuff is earth worm castings, rice hills. Malted barley powder.
Rootbound420
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I found the kind you said to get. So mix 50/50 with black gold how long will i go before top dressing you think?
FirstCavApache64
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One thing you should start doing when watering is aerating the media. Get a bamboo or wooden chopstick or a big blunt wooden dowel about the same diameter and poke all the way down into the soil gently until you hit the bottom of the pot, all over the pot each time you water. I do it about 8 places but it's not like I count. It helps aerate the medium and really gets my rootball to be thick as hell. I thought it was crazy the first time I started to stab my roots too, worried I was killing my plants with root damage but it really will help them out and if you go slow and gently you won't hurt a thing.
buckaclark
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Harleys old trick haa haa!
PadawanWarrior
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It looks like it's mostly peat moss.
What is in Pro Mix potting soil?
The Pro Mix moisture mix contains Sphagnum peat moss (80-90%), natural coco coir fiber, perlite, ground limestone (for pH), mycorrhizae, and an undisclosed wetting agent. The organic garden mix contains a bit less peat but also includes Gypsum. Meanwhile, the Pro Mix All-Purpose Mix includes Canadian sphagnum peat moss, peat humus, perlite, limestone, and mycorrhizae (PTB297 technology).
MrX2017
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That block compressed, is 2 bags of black cow, so technically it’s 1/3. Treat this as any other los you’d use.
Organics need time to break down, unless feeding micronized, you need to be ahead of the plants needs.
so top dress as you normally would.
hard for me to tell when, every plant eats differently. I have plants that will drink .10/gal a day and plants that will drink a gal a day. Lol so one pot has lot less food then the others.
buildasoil website,education, they have a great schedule to follow. Youcan supplement what they use for what equivalent you have.
MrX2017
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Have you ran into herms?
Rootbound420
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Awesome thank you!
FirstCavApache64
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Not since I've started doing this. I have had plants herm on me but it was several years ago and I was using way too many nutrients from Advanced Nutrients and adding in a bunch of additives and I think that's what caused it. Since I cut over feeding and switched to organics I haven't seen any problems. I also don't run hermy prone genetics where you have to worry about it.
MrX2017
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Stabbing roots and destroying them over and over is extremely stressful for a plant. That’s why I was asking. Just was wondering
FirstCavApache64
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Don't think I mentioned destroying but okay. Pretty sure the word gently was used twice but hey I'll do me and you can do you. I also cut my roots with a rusty old knife when I transplant if they're rootbound, I bet that would really get you wound up
MrX2017
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Your words were, bamboo poleDon't think I mentioned destroying but okay. Pretty sure the word gently was used twice but hey I'll do me and you can do you. I also cut my roots with a rusty old knife when I transplant if they're rootbound, I bet that would really get you wound up
So yes Destroying roots…
wound up? No, you recommending to someone looking for help just go put holes with poles to the bottom of your soil. “Allll good”. Notthe best advice Growmie.
rusty tools? There are heavy metal concentrations you should be worried about.
but you do you, like you said?
GroBud
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When I feed is 3 weeks after in final pot, considering slow release takes about a week to start breaking down
Veg 444 all purpose
Flower 394 flower girl
All dressing also get worm castings, azomite or rock dust, and humic acid
Veg I'll give teas or organic waterings using
Kelp me kelp you, wholly mackeral, microbrew
Veg and flower I'll use, worm juice, fish poo, fulvic acid, and mycorrhizae with molasses
Flower I wont do much more than listed above unless plants show they may need something then I'll brew a tea for what they need, using slow release and covering a-z that's rare. I will in mid-later flower add a bunch of worm castings 2 to 3 cups or a inch or two of fox farms original blend or ocean forest. Neither worm castings nor humic acid will burn plants
Below are ph readings at 2 months then at 6 1/2 months at harvest. 7.2 is slightly high however over 6 months at harvest of 9.3 water hose water that's not bad. Also if you look at a nutrients soil ph guide 7.2 gets what they need.
Veg 444 all purpose
Flower 394 flower girl
All dressing also get worm castings, azomite or rock dust, and humic acid
Veg I'll give teas or organic waterings using
Kelp me kelp you, wholly mackeral, microbrew
Veg and flower I'll use, worm juice, fish poo, fulvic acid, and mycorrhizae with molasses
Flower I wont do much more than listed above unless plants show they may need something then I'll brew a tea for what they need, using slow release and covering a-z that's rare. I will in mid-later flower add a bunch of worm castings 2 to 3 cups or a inch or two of fox farms original blend or ocean forest. Neither worm castings nor humic acid will burn plants
Below are ph readings at 2 months then at 6 1/2 months at harvest. 7.2 is slightly high however over 6 months at harvest of 9.3 water hose water that's not bad. Also if you look at a nutrients soil ph guide 7.2 gets what they need.
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Rootbound420
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If i use pro mix hp with dr. Earth 444 and 394. How much would i add to the soil first feed and when?
MichiganGrows44
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Hey bud, is your water from a well or city water? Mine is from a 60' deep well (that was an expensive well to dig!!!)...mine is 7.8 consistently. I never Ph either with my PROMIX HP. Seems like an 8ph from a well works!!!! 8ph of city water??? Lemon juice that shit!!! Just curious . Happy tokin
Wizzlebiz
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City water
MichiganGrows44
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Which organic soil ya using? They were out of Promix this last time, so I bought Mother's Earth Terra craft. The NPK is miniscule. It's 1/2 of what happy frog is even. I think FFHF is pretty much just dirt, so I amended this Terracraft soil with EWC and Dr Earth same as I would Promix. Miigggght be a little warm, but, it's weed, it's a damn strong plant.