Dragons Flame Genetics

higher self

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Anywho about that new drop lol I should have my Orange Dreams sexed pretty soon. Their taking awhile to show compared to other plants popped at same time. Been getting lot of females as of late so should get at least 2 females out of the 4. The plants themselves look sativas & some have slight smell in stem rub. Not sure if I will clone or run seed plant yet.
 

Flowtrail55

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Anywho about that new drop lol I should have my Orange Dreams sexed pretty soon. Their taking awhile to show compared to other plants popped at same time. Been getting lot of females as of late so should get at least 2 females out of the 4. The plants themselves look sativas & some have slight smell in stem rub. Not sure if I will clone or run seed plant yet.
Let us know how it goes and post pics!!!
 

Flowtrail55

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For sure, their still in solo cups now. I'll get some pics up when I transplant. I don't mind running the seed plant bc I have 11 seeds left in the pack not to mention if I order any DFG pack I get more Orange Stash lol
That sounds like a win win to me!
Can't wait to see the pics.
 

Dragonsflamegenetics

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6 fems for 100 is taxing hard + the freebies should be fems in my opinion. The fem packs sound dank but not an appealing price
This was something we debated at length between my wife and myself, and we actually ended up going cheaper then what our vendors recommended based on what they see as far as ours sells vs other brand...what it came down to -

We released i believe it was 135 packs maybe stoner failing and its 145, of dude you're droolin, 200 packs of the charlies stank ass. both regular lines were 85 packs. And I don't mean that as a marketing ploy, I saved myself enough to continue working the line, but thats all the stock after proper testing.

3 sold out at before I even could go live with them on my site, and the 4th we were down to 40 before the drop day, and still isnt even on our the website...not sure if there will be any left to even put up.... Half our vendors weren't able to get any stock, and the vendors that did we had to limit their orders and they had to take what they could get of them, as stock went fast.

When at the current price point we didnt even have enough to put 3 of them on our site....doesn't really lend us to the belief we are overpriced. While I do understand as when I buy seeds I always prefer cheaper as well...thats just the way it ended up. We aren't a huge setup or corporate sized facility, we are traditional market doing things lowkey in a climate that isn't forgiving, building a property from the jungle up,. So while I don't want to appear greedy, we did follow supply and demand, and we also have to follow the advice of our vendors who are the most in tune with the seed market. 100 per pack at retail in the seed buying world is still on the lower side of pricing.

I hope this makes sense.
 

Dragonsflamegenetics

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EDIT - Also wanted to say, these are the first 2 fem releases we have done. So this was new territory for us. We wanted to do a fem freebie, but as of yet, we dont have stock that we feel comfortable passing yet, as these 2 releases were the first 2 to make it thru our testing protocol.

Someday we do plan to do fem freebies with fem releases....but couldnt atm. our freebies aren't throwaways or untested who knows what stock, as i view freebies as one of the paths to get people to grow more of our work. So even the freebies gotta impress. No one forgets if you seed out their room. Freebie or released...you seed out someones crop that sticks in their mind.
 

Learning1234

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Just say you went with supply and demand and want to make as much money as you can. You’re a capitalist. No worries there. You don’t have to be cool with everyone. People who think those fems are overpriced won’t buy them, but you’ll sell out and be happy. That’s all there is to it. We can’t have it both ways. Can’t act like we as sellers care about how much we charge a customer when our rationale for our price is that they sold out. Years and years of capitalism have proved that just because people are paying the price doesn’t mean the product is worth that value.
 

YerpGodMarley

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Just say you went with supply and demand and want to make as much money as you can. You’re a capitalist. No worries there. You don’t have to be cool with everyone. People who think those fems are overpriced won’t buy them, but you’ll sell out and be happy. That’s all there is to it. We can’t have it both ways. Can’t act like we as sellers care about how much we charge a customer when our rationale for our price is that they sold out. Years and years of capitalism have proved that just because people are paying the price doesn’t mean the product is worth that value.
everybody sellin water at 100 a bottle so i had to sell it at 100 a bottle
 

Dragonsflamegenetics

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Just say you went with supply and demand and want to make as much money as you can. You’re a capitalist. No worries there. You don’t have to be cool with everyone. People who think those fems are overpriced won’t buy them, but you’ll sell out and be happy. That’s all there is to it. We can’t have it both ways. Can’t act like we as sellers care about how much we charge a customer when our rationale for our price is that they sold out. Years and years of capitalism have proved that just because people are paying the price doesn’t mean the product is worth that value.

First time ive been called a capitalist lol. but you are right in the cant be cool with everyone. most people have to work for a living, and most people want to be paid for their work. So I don't think its at all true/fair to say that means I don't care about my customers. And Ive yet to have anyone come to me after they grown any of my work and say damn jeff / dragon that was some overpriced boof. but as always, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
 

Wattzzup

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First time ive been called a capitalist lol. but you are right in the cant be cool with everyone. most people have to work for a living, and most people want to be paid for their work. So I don't think its at all true/fair to say that means I don't care about my customers. And Ive yet to have anyone come to me after they grown any of my work and say damn jeff / dragon that was some overpriced boof. but as always, everyone is entitled to their own opinion.
You can tell he’s never worked for anything in his life. I like your prices. I was more than happy with what I was sent.

I didn’t think you were doing fem seeds. What happened? The capitalist in you just had to do it? :lol: :lol:
 

Dragonsflamegenetics

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You can tell he’s never worked for anything in his life. I like your prices. I was more than happy with what I was sent.

I didn’t think you were doing fem seeds. What happened? The capitalist in you just had to do it? :lol: :lol:

Yep. I personally rarely to never buy feminized seeds, as I prefer regulars, esp when the norm in the feminized breeding world is to take some clone only, usually cookies cake desert line and put it on some other cookie clone line. Pretty rare to see feminized projects built off the breeders line and not just clone only stuff. but, for years Ive been asked to put my standards on some feminized projects. and then my hand got somewhat forced when my orange dreams seed line (regulars) that I love wouldn't produce very many males, and the males it did produce didn't pass my stress testing... and i didn't want the line to die, and my best option was to go with the feminized route. Now that I have done fems and done the process, I have a lot more respect for it, as its not nearly as easy as I believed prior. Much much easier in hawaii to stick a male in the greenhouse and have a fully seeded crop then it is to baby a dozen reversals here in hawaii, as the density and resin catches the pollen and it wants to mold like crazy in our 99% nightly humidity. And now that Ive tested out reversal seeds, and seen first hand I can keep my standards on stress testing and still have stable excellent lines, I plan to do quite a bit more reversals. Just finished my Mac Dragon reversal, and next up we are going to do my blackberry moonshine bx1 pheno found by mischif mike reversal. You wont ever see my reversing the flavor of the month clone only though. just not my style.

We got quite a few balls in the air for sure.

Just did the mac dragon, and the Vietnamese black preservation, and just flipped the purple dalat viet preservation / outcrossing cycle. Next is the bms bx1 reversal in the gh, and then after the dalat, we got a large pool of a Shillong Indian landrace from the wettest part of the world. getting first open pollinated then Ill start also working the line. I also want to reverse the blackberry moonshine #12 mom, which is my longest running clone mother Ive found and held thru time and several moves now.

Our second jungle property finally is online as well, and that greenhouse is week 4 now, and got some excellent lines in their im Running thru to see what we can find. That cycle was a lot of my older / dying lines, so I suspect any winners from that will be added to the list to reverse someday.
 

Dragonsflamegenetics

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heres my blackberry moonshine bx1 line found outta my regular seed stock by mischif mike. It will be the next reversal...

Gonna make S1s, BX1 to the Bms #12, and outcross to my mac dragon #10, #7, as well as hit 2 phenos of Bruce banger that are highly resistance to fungi and also make some excellent terps, found by a local homie of mine, gonna prob hit the maui skunkdog as well, and got some of my Bulgarian moonshine, bangin dreams, wet cherri, sour cherry (breeders boutique / hemlock) and maybe a few others dependign on how full the greenhouse looks.

should be fun.


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Dragonsflamegenetics

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this is the mac dragon number 7, which was my last reversal project, working on threshing the flower and separating the seeds right now.


not to shabby for some tropical outdoor lol.


I made Mac dragon S1s, mac dragon fem f2s using the 10, 12, and 18 phenos, as well as backcrossed (Mac dragon x orange dreams) x mac dragon and garlic breath #21` i pulled from thugpug gear in collab with him. and outcrossed some private stock size bags of tk, 92 og, DTK, T1000, orange dreams 3 and lisa phenos, skunkdog, sour d bx2 (karma) and a few others im prob stoner forgetting....




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