Drip irrigation and ph UGH!

Redlig

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Ok so if this has been answered I apologise.... ok here we go. I have had a rough Christmas so bear with me between hps bulbs going out white mould and caterpillars and the chemdog(its finiky I have realized I've been going nuts border line ready to throw in the towel on it). So far I got the freaking insects under control and lighting fixed I now have a mars tsw2000 in my tent and over the veg area. The weather here has been nuts anyway what I have set up is a tent and a veg tray both have led lights now. I have set up a basic drip system along side a siphon fertilizer feeder. I feel like I have the setting pretty good honestly if anything I have it feeding a little less than recommended one has a combination of fox farms big bloom/ tiger bloom. The other has fox farms grow big/ big bloom. My timers feed ferts twice a week then the other waterings are straight tap water. My soil is a little over 7ish and my water after testing(used my hot tub tester?) Is around 7.2. Did I waste my time doing drip irrigation? Do you guys think I could add a form of ph down to my injector and help lower my soil?
 

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Detroitwill

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Mix 1% milk and bottled water. 40% milk 60% water n spray the plants and everything near by let it dry. It will make your plants have a white film on them. Leave it for a week or two depending on how bad your situation is. That’ll get rid of the white mold. And 7 is high and I have found that having mixed nutes sitting for longer than 18-24 hrs tends to raise the ph. I have not found a cure to this myself. So I only mix what’s needed for a single feeding. It would be nice to know how to stabilize the ph.
 

Redlig

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Then how do I ph my water? In a separate resivor? That why I'm thinking my irrigation was a waste :(
 

oill

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Then how do I ph my water? In a separate resivor? That why I'm thinking my irrigation was a waste :(
Just mix your nutes weaker and feed them every time you water. And then use your drupler system all the time.
 

Renfro

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Can you add another siphon feeder thingy and put some diluted pH buffer in it? Never used one of those.
 

Redlig

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Can you add another siphon feeder thingy and put some diluted pH buffer in it? Never used one of those.
I totally could. I think it would ideally be before everything else. I'm thinking temporarily removing one and adding in gh(not sure if I can say the name) ph down and seeing if I cant get the water correct then if I can get a good consistant reading put in my fert and letting er rip.
 

Redlig

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Now for some pics of my girls. Go easy on me I'm no pro I have a lot to learn. Bud shots are jelly breath, the 4 manifold one is chemdog and the last is blue nina(shes doing REALLY good all around seem to be quite resiliant) also keep in mind that's what I was told they were...
 

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Redlig

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Ok so I just settled down and kinda looked over and analyzed everything while I did some taste testing. So here's my chem dog compared to the blue nina. For the life of me I couldnt figure out why the chem dog took a dive but I just now realized my fan was stuck and wasnt oscillating.....could my chem dogs issue be that? Honestly the more I think about it the more I realize I never had an issue growing jellybreath and never once checked ph till now. The chemdog going south made me start checking into it that combined with the caterpillars in my veg area and lighting issue messed with my head....sorry if that was stupid or long winded turns out it taste good whatever I've been doing
 

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oill

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Ok so I just settled down and kinda looked over and analyzed everything while I did some taste testing. So here's my chem dog compared to the blue nina. For the life of me I couldnt figure out why the chem dog took a dive but I just now realized my fan was stuck and wasnt oscillating.....could my chem dogs issue be that? Honestly the more I think about it the more I realize I never had an issue growing jellybreath and never once checked ph till now. The chemdog going south made me start checking into it that combined with the caterpillars in my veg area and lighting issue messed with my head....sorry if that was stupid or long winded turns out it taste good whatever I've been doing
Looks like your running hot on nutes anyway!
 

Redlig

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Ok so as of right now I shut everything off and got the fan back oscillating. I went to my local b&m and got some ph down. I got the ph best I can tell around 5.8 once might be a tad low but I figure it may help balance out the soil. I'm going to hand water with only phed water till I get everything back recovering nicely. From there I'll start adding in the irrigation seems like 1.25mil of gh ph down per gallon is what it takes to get my water right. Based on that I should be able to use the feeders but I'm going to test them on something other than my plants first haha. On one hand I want to bail on it but I feel like the system could work well once I get things dialed in but dang its tricky. Here's some pics I didnt realize the last one wasnt finished I had a couple more check valves left.
 

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oill

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Ok so as of right now I shut everything off and got the fan back oscillating. I went to my local b&m and got some ph down. I got the ph best I can tell around 5.8 once might be a tad low but I figure it may help balance out the soil. I'm going to hand water with only phed water till I get everything back recovering nicely. From there I'll start adding in the irrigation seems like 1.25mil of gh ph down per gallon is what it takes to get my water right. Based on that I should be able to use the feeders but I'm going to test them on something other than my plants first haha. On one hand I want to bail on it but I feel like the system could work well once I get things dialed in but dang its tricky. Here's some pics I didnt realize the last one wasnt finished I had a couple more check valves left.
Hang on bud... 5.8 is too low for soil. 5.8 to 6 for coco and 6.5 for soil. Dont out it in too low you will cause more issues I think
 

oill

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I only did it a little low because my soil is high right now
Just put it in at what it should be until it comes out the bottom at the same ph. (Don't try and do ph maths in your head.) You want to get this right.... ph the water to 6.5 and then flush it through til it comes out 6.5
 

Redlig

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Just put it in at what it should be until it comes out the bottom at the same ph. (Don't try and do ph maths in your head.) You want to get this right.... ph the water to 6.5 and then flush it through til it comes out 6.5
Thank you....I'll check my soil tonight and see where I'm at. When I started this in my head I was like keep it simple ill only do it for a little while...ha so much for that
 

oill

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Thank you....I'll check my soil tonight and see where I'm at. When I started this in my head I was like keep it simple ill only do it for a little while...ha so much for that
I'm the same.... one more grow man.. one more grow! Lol.... 6 years later lol
 

Redlig

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I gotta say thankyou guys. Couple days ago I noticed my ph was unusually high in my hot tub so i checked my tap water and sure enough it was higher than usual....idk why. Anyway after starting to ph my water I see a huge improvement in my ladies. Between that lighting issues and random ass caterpillars I'm over the hump. Instead of being pissed about the setback I decided its finally time to build a new grow cabinet. I'm pumped. I know it's a stupid mistake and i look like a dork but I'm just glad i got it sorted out so thank you
 

oill

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I gotta say thankyou guys. Couple days ago I noticed my ph was unusually high in my hot tub so i checked my tap water and sure enough it was higher than usual....idk why. Anyway after starting to ph my water I see a huge improvement in my ladies. Between that lighting issues and random ass caterpillars I'm over the hump. Instead of being pissed about the setback I decided its finally time to build a new grow cabinet. I'm pumped. I know it's a stupid mistake and i look like a dork but I'm just glad i got it sorted out so thank you
Nice... Good news.

I ph every 10pltr tank I mix and calibrate the pen every time....its important
 

Redlig

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Nice... Good news.

I ph every 10pltr tank I mix and calibrate the pen every time....its important
Can you reuse the testing solution? I have some that came with mine you mix it with distilled water
 

oill

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Can you reuse the testing solution? I have some that came with mine you mix it with distilled water
I use a hm ph pen... loads easier than that solution.... face facts...your addicted to growing and bite the bullet.... gey yourself a ph pen lol
 

Redlig

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I have a ph pen that got delivered the other day I just need to sit down and learn to use it. I did start my alum frame work on my cabinet. The plan is to do a cabinet 30in deep 5 foot 5 high and 8 feet wide. 1 30x30 flower are the rest is for veg i also still have the tent for a second flower area if I need it.

Edit:sorry about the bold
 
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