Droopy..

timmehvl

timmehvl

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Hello ladies and gentlestoners

Got my msnl fem mix surprise seeds a couple of months ago I vegged for 2 months and put 2 ladies in the flower room and one is droopy only been in 5 days and just gave first feed of bloom 2 hours ago so it was droopy when the light came on this is my 4th grow and 1st under a 600w hps usually a 400w I'm in coco using gt nuets ph 6.0 23c humidity is 40% using a cooltube with 6 inch centrifugal fan and carbon filter I have no idea why she is like this I have never changed anything with my grows never had a problem and now this any good criticism will be awesome and bad if need be

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draxhemp

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could be stress from light change. looks like to much water but the scaring around the outside of the leafs signal a insect pest to me. tip over leafs make sure you see nothing under, some pest are same color as leafs so look close. but honestly I think you need to put you finger in soil if it feels pretty soaked 2 inches down say 4-5 hours after water I'd take a day off from watering and maybe water less. I'm a lil confuse are you going from a 600watt to a 400 for blooming? normally after a going from grow to bloom I have about 60-80% of old leafs die. I always thought that was because I use t5 for grow and 600 watt for bloom and it stresses them out. I could only guess the opposite would do the same.
 
timmehvl

timmehvl

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draxhemp said:
could be stress from light change. looks like to much water but the scaring around the outside of the leafs signal a insect pest to me. tip over leafs make sure you see nothing under, some pest are same color as leafs so look close. but honestly I think you need to put you finger in soil if it feels pretty soaked 2 inches down say 4-5 hours after water I'd take a day off from watering and maybe water less. I'm a lil confuse are you going from a 600watt to a 400 for blooming? normally after a going from grow to bloom I have about 60-80% of old leafs die. I always thought that was because I use t5 for grow and 600 watt for bloom and it stresses them out. I could only guess the opposite would do the same.
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Ok man I grow in coco I also ment I used to grow with a 400w hps I veg under t5 and bloom under 600w first time and I'm excited lol I only water every 4 days ATM but I'm guessing it's stress I'll keep a eye on them and see how they go

Thanks for the input brother
 
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draxhemp

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I would let it ride another week. also I've never grown on coco but my plants I use to grow in soil required daily water and dry spells. it took me months to find that sweet amount of water that was gone b4 next day so that roots could dry and then re apply I found cutting the top off a 20oz coke bottle and marking it every inch to allow me to try to keep a mental record of how much water and at what stage they want more / less. good luck I'm sure that will be a beauty in a few weeks.
 
timmehvl

timmehvl

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draxhemp said:
I would let it ride another week. also I've never grown on coco but my plants I use to grow in soil required daily water and dry spells. it took me months to find that sweet amount of water that was gone b4 next day so that roots could dry and then re apply I found cutting the top off a 20oz coke bottle and marking it every inch to allow me to try to keep a mental record of how much water and at what stage they want more / less. good luck I'm sure that will be a beauty in a few weeks.
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Yer hope so man my incredible bulk went crazy under my 400 hps I'm keen to see what a 600w hps will be like
 
jswett1100

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It does just look a tad bit overwatered, did you use the same amount of water for each plant? what did you do different from that plant then the other, because i mean if one isnt droopy then there must have been a difference in something you did. especially if there the same strain/pheno
 
timmehvl

timmehvl

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jswett1100 said:
It does just look a tad bit overwatered, did you use the same amount of water for each plant? what did you do different from that plant then the other, because i mean if one isnt droopy then there must have been a difference in something you did. especially if there the same strain/pheno
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Nothing different except the 600w hps and it was a fem mix from msnl they didn't say what breeds and Yer watered the same as usual

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timmehvl

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Also my plant right next to it that I feed the same do everything the same to it and it's fine leaves are up ready to go I will post another pic soon
 
ALong14U

ALong14U

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timmehvl said:
Hello ladies and gentlestoners

Got my msnl fem mix surprise seeds a couple of months ago I vegged for 2 months and put 2 ladies in the flower room and one is droopy only been in 5 days and just gave first feed of bloom 2 hours ago so it was droopy when the light came on this is my 4th grow and 1st under a 600w hps usually a 400w I'm in coco using gt nuets ph 6.0 23c humidity is 40% using a cooltube with 6 inch centrifugal fan and carbon filter I have no idea why she is like this I have never changed anything with my grows never had a problem and now this any good criticism will be awesome and bad if need be

Thanks
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See the leaves in the left that look like an eagles talon? That is the beginning of nitrogen toxicity. It will eventually cause the talon like leaves to develope necrosis and eventually fall off in the nitrogen is not flushed out and cut back or removed from the feeding schedule. Now I can't tell because your HPS is on in the pic. But if all your leaves looked like that and are now dying off from the top and the middle and the bottom then that's what I would suspect. If the leaves are very dark green and have the claw look you caught it in time and just need to so what I described above.
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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timmehvl said:
Can I transplant 10 days into flower? And I'm half strength in nuets how's about I flush and transplant ?
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How do you use your nutes?

Do you feed, feed, feed, feed or feed, water, feed, water?

Do you water until good run off?

If feeding every time I wouldn't run full strength. Somewhere between 1/4 to half strength.

You can mix stronger when alternating.

You need to water until good run off to prevent salt build up.

Yes, you can transplant that far into flower. If its root bound just let it dry some and work the sides of the pot to loosen root ball and just pick it up by the stalk and remove from the pot. It will come out easily in one piece if its bound. Sometimes they can stick to the bottom.
 
timmehvl

timmehvl

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whitebb2727 said:
How do you use your nutes?

Do you feed, feed, feed, feed or feed, water, feed, water?

Do you water until good run off?

If feeding every time I wouldn't run full strength. Somewhere between 1/4 to half strength.

You can mix stronger when alternating.

You need to water until good run off to prevent salt build up.

Yes, you can transplant that far into flower. If its root bound just let it dry some and work the sides of the pot to loosen root ball and just pick it up by the stalk and remove from the pot. It will come out easily in one piece if its bound. Sometimes they can stick to the bottom.
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I just hand water once a week but there drinking more so abit every 4 days atm I'm feeding just over half strength I always allow at least 10% run off and should I transplant with lights on or off? Thanks for the help sir much appreciated
 
whitebb2727

whitebb2727

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timmehvl said:
I just hand water once a week but there drinking more so abit every 4 days atm I'm feeding just over half strength I always allow at least 10% run off and should I transplant with lights on or off? Thanks for the help sir much appreciated
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Try alternating your feedings with plain water. I bet your getting a bit of salt build up. Water a bit more. 20 or 30 percent run off. Water once lightly and water again in 10 minutes real good. Moist soil will take more water.

I would transplant towards the end of lights on. It doesn't really matter. Do it gentle and raise your light a bit for a day or two if need be to give them a break.

They won't miss a beat.
 
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