Dunn murder case in FL

schuylaar

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What conflicted jury? Acquittal requires a unanimous vote.
not really, cry me a river:

George Zimmerman juror: Trial ruined my life


A juror in the George Zimmerman trial tells "Inside Edition" that her life was ruined by the trial because she lost friends and a full-time nursing home job.

Juror B-29, who was identified as Maddy during interviews with ABC, says she has received death threats. She reveals that her family is close to being evicted from her four-bedroom home in Seminole County.

"Emotionally, mentally, physically, I'm so drained," Maddy tells "Inside Edition." "I can't stop thinking about the case. I have a heart."

The interview airs at 4:30 and 7:30 p.m. today on WKMG-Channel 6.

Maddy says she questions whether she was right to acquit Zimmerman in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin. She says she has followed reports on Zimmerman since the trial ended this summer.


[HR][/HR]



"We all know who's guilty," she says. "George Zimmerman thinks he didn't do anything wrong."

stupid bitch, i must say.



Maddy discusses the personal toll. "I got to hold the gun that killed this boy. I saw pictures I didn't need to see," she says.

"Inside Edition" tours Maddy's home, which is practically empty, and captures the gas company delivering a disconnect notice.

She is especially shaken by the death threats.

"On Facebook someone wrote that I'm going to feel the same pain as Trayvon Martin's mom ... meaning I'm going to lose my son," Maddy says. "All this blame was put on me. No one's looking at George Zimmerman. He's the one who killed the child. George Zimmerman should be the one to blame for this."
 

desert dude

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not really, cry me a river:

George Zimmerman juror: Trial ruined my life


A juror in the George Zimmerman trial tells "Inside Edition" that her life was ruined by the trial because she lost friends and a full-time nursing home job.

Juror B-29, who was identified as Maddy during interviews with ABC, says she has received death threats. She reveals that her family is close to being evicted from her four-bedroom home in Seminole County.

"Emotionally, mentally, physically, I'm so drained," Maddy tells "Inside Edition." "I can't stop thinking about the case. I have a heart."

The interview airs at 4:30 and 7:30 p.m. today on WKMG-Channel 6.

Maddy says she questions whether she was right to acquit Zimmerman in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin. She says she has followed reports on Zimmerman since the trial ended this summer.


[HR][/HR]



"We all know who's guilty," she says. "George Zimmerman thinks he didn't do anything wrong."

stupid bitch, i must say.



Maddy discusses the personal toll. "I got to hold the gun that killed this boy. I saw pictures I didn't need to see," she says.

"Inside Edition" tours Maddy's home, which is practically empty, and captures the gas company delivering a disconnect notice.

She is especially shaken by the death threats.

"On Facebook someone wrote that I'm going to feel the same pain as Trayvon Martin's mom ... meaning I'm going to lose my son," Maddy says. "All this blame was put on me. No one's looking at George Zimmerman. He's the one who killed the child. George Zimmerman should be the one to blame for this."
Sky, your post only shows that Maddy has been hounded and threatened by your philosophical brethren for doing her job as a juror. It does not refute Red's statement one iota. The jury in Z's trial was unanimous on all charges. That is how criminal jury trials work in Florida, and I think everywhere in the US.

Maddy did her job and she made the right decision on the verdict. Can you imagine the chaos in this country if jurors convicted people because of their "feelings"?

Did Spike Lee tweet her address to the faithful?

"I think you reading comprehension has failed you."
 

Dr Kynes

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Jury nullification is acquittal when the jury thinks the defendant is actualy guilty. It's the letter vs. the spirit in action.Thanks for making my point that just because a jury declares you innocent doesn't mean you didn't do anything wrong though.
i gotta disagree.

jury nullification is when the jury REJECTS the law, as laid down by the judge, and finds the defendant innocent despite the law and the facts.

example:
you get busted with a doobie, and through some miracle you wind up with a jury of members of this forum.
if the jury decides that having a spliff is not a crime they find you not guilty, not "he is a bad person but we dont want to see him punished", but rather, not guilty, cuz the law is wrong.

jury nullification has been commonly used since the US became a country, but only since 1895 have judges claimed the power to lie to the jurors about their power to find the defendant not guilty, regardless of the law's opinion. (see Sparf V. US for more information)

jury nullification doesnt mean youre "guilty", it means that though you may have done what the prosecutor claims, that act was not a crime.
 

Red1966

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not really, cry me a river: George Zimmerman juror: Trial ruined my life A juror in the George Zimmerman trial tells "Inside Edition" that her life was ruined by the trial because she lost friends and a full-time nursing home job. Juror B-29, who was identified as Maddy during interviews with ABC, says she has received death threats. She reveals that her family is close to being evicted from her four-bedroom home in Seminole County. "Emotionally, mentally, physically, I'm so drained," Maddy tells "Inside Edition." "I can't stop thinking about the case. I have a heart." The interview airs at 4:30 and 7:30 p.m. today on WKMG-Channel 6. Maddy says she questions whether she was right to acquit Zimmerman in the fatal shooting of Trayvon Martin. She says she has followed reports on Zimmerman since the trial ended this summer. [HR][/HR] "We all know who's guilty," she says. "George Zimmerman thinks he didn't do anything wrong." stupid bitch, i must say. Maddy discusses the personal toll. "I got to hold the gun that killed this boy. I saw pictures I didn't need to see," she says. "Inside Edition" tours Maddy's home, which is practically empty, and captures the gas company delivering a disconnect notice. She is especially shaken by the death threats. "On Facebook someone wrote that I'm going to feel the same pain as Trayvon Martin's mom ... meaning I'm going to lose my son," Maddy says. "All this blame was put on me. No one's looking at George Zimmerman. He's the one who killed the child. George Zimmerman should be the one to blame for this."
Blah, blah, blah. They ALL still voted not guilty. If even one voted guilty, Zimmerman wouldn't have been acquitted. Maddy's description of social pressure AFTER the trial changing her mind is irrelevant.
 

desert dude

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i gotta disagree.

jury nullification is when the jury REJECTS the law, as laid down by the judge, and finds the defendant innocent despite the law and the facts.

example:
you get busted with a doobie, and through some miracle you wind up with a jury of members of this forum.
if the jury decides that having a spliff is not a crime they find you not guilty, not "he is a bad person but we dont want to see him punished", but rather, not guilty, cuz the law is wrong.

jury nullification has been commonly used since the US became a country, but only since 1895 have judges claimed the power to lie to the jurors about their power to find the defendant not guilty, regardless of the law's opinion. (see Sparf V. US for more information)

jury nullification doesnt mean youre "guilty", it means that though you may have done what the prosecutor claims, that act was not a crime.
Absolutely correct!
 

schuylaar

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Sky, your post only shows that Maddy has been hounded and threatened by your philosophical brethren for doing her job as a juror. It does not refute Red's statement one iota. The jury in Z's trial was unanimous on all charges. That is how criminal jury trials work in Florida, and I think everywhere in the US.

Maddy did her job and she made the right decision on the verdict. Can you imagine the chaos in this country if jurors convicted people because of their "feelings"?

Did Spike Lee tweet her address to the faithful?

"I think you reading comprehension has failed you."


"We all know who's guilty," she says.
 

UncleBuck

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desertdude and red seem a little too giddy that it's now acceptable to chase down black kids and shoot them dead if they defend themselves.
 

NLXSK1

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Blah, blah, blah. They ALL still voted not guilty. If even one voted guilty, Zimmerman wouldn't have been acquitted. Maddy's description of social pressure AFTER the trial changing her mind is irrelevant.
It appears that Maddy has a spine about as firm as a dish rag...
 

kpmarine

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i gotta disagree.

jury nullification is when the jury REJECTS the law, as laid down by the judge, and finds the defendant innocent despite the law and the facts.

example:
you get busted with a doobie, and through some miracle you wind up with a jury of members of this forum.
if the jury decides that having a spliff is not a crime they find you not guilty, not "he is a bad person but we dont want to see him punished", but rather, not guilty, cuz the law is wrong.

jury nullification has been commonly used since the US became a country, but only since 1895 have judges claimed the power to lie to the jurors about their power to find the defendant not guilty, regardless of the law's opinion. (see Sparf V. US for more information)

jury nullification doesnt mean youre "guilty", it means that though you may have done what the prosecutor claims, that act was not a crime.
It could be either side of that coin. You are right in regards to it not just being support of the obvious spirit of a law.
 

kpmarine

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Seriously, the guy murders a kid and fires on a vehicle full of unarmed kids as it drives away from him, and isn't found guilty of murder. Way to go Florida...
 

schuylaar

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desertdude and red seem a little too giddy that it's now acceptable to chase down black kids and shoot them dead if they defend themselves.
hell, you don't even have to chase them down..they just pull up next to you at the gas station listening to music..and..horror of horrors..wants to fill their gas tank.
 

kpmarine

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hell, you don't even have to chase them down..they just pull up next to you at the gas station listening to music..and..horror of horrors..wants to fill their gas tank.
Dunn even chased the car after he fired on it. He was a mass killer who let his targets get away.
 

schuylaar

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Dunn even chased the car after he fired on it. He was a mass killer who let his targets get away.
meh..he's going away for a long time..but what do you think about his steely reserve?..ex-cop? why is he ex?..they always pull a 2nd career in order to maximize pensions.
 

kpmarine

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meh..he's going away for a long time..but what do you think about his steely reserve?..ex-cop? why is he ex?..they always pull a 2nd career in order to maximize pensions.
If he was a black man firing on a group of white teens that scared him, then he'd be on death row. In relation, attempted murder that he'll likely see parole for at some point does not seem just.
 

NLXSK1

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Seriously, the guy murders a kid and fires on a vehicle full of unarmed kids as it drives away from him, and isn't found guilty of murder. Way to go Florida...

He wasnt guilty of first degree murder because he didnt plan on killing someone, he just flipped out and did it. Do you have any understanding of the justice system at all??
 

UncleBuck

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He wasnt guilty of first degree murder because he didnt plan on killing someone, he just flipped out and did it. Do you have any understanding of the justice system at all??
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statuTes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0782/Sections/0782.04.html


murder in the first doesn't necessarily mean premeditated, although that is one of the ways you can get murder in the 1st.

do you have any understanding of anything at all, ever?
 
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