Dyna-Gro vs General Hydroponics (Dumpster Grow)

homebrewer

homebrewer

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ENDLSCYCLE said:
I'm sure you've been asked this before but it's late and I don't feel like thumbing(clicking) through pages....What line up of GH do you use....I use Flora 3part with Floralicious +, Liquid KoolBloom, and FloraBlend....I have found that the feed chart GH tells me to use for this combo is Way too strong...and if I run it at half strength I feel I'm not getting what I should..so I just pump em to the max....what kind of concoction have you brewed up???
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I run the same stuff except I also add sweet from botanicare. The GH additives don't contribute much to the ppm so I just make sure the bulk of my nutes are the macros and micros supplied by the base and koolbloom (which is the same thing as florabloom). Sweet on the other hand contributes 100ppm per 5mls/gallon, I believe. So on average, I'll pretty much use the recommended doses for florablend and floralicious, but cut back on the base nutes compared to what is recommended.

Edit: I also use koolbloom dry at the end, forgot to add that one.
 
homebrewer

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Today is day 60 of 60 and I’m going to start harvesting today. I’ll be harvesting through Sunday and if I have time, I’ll snap a few more pictures this weekend. I was thinking earlier in the week that they may need to go a few more days than normal, but based on the tric color and the overall look of the plants, these ladies are ready. Below are a few pics and I’m pretty pleased with how they turned out. As soon as they’re dry with a short cure, I’ll write up a final review along with yield totals and a comparative smoke report.

I'll also be harvesting the GH tray of AK47 early next week and will post some pics of that too. It's relevant in that I currently have an AK47 tray with DG and Floralicious plus going at the moment and I'd like to compare the results of that strain as well.















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mane2008

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Looking really good man. One quick question though if you don't mind.
Will you be making any kind of hash or canna-butter with your trimmings, or do you just toss them?
 
homebrewer

homebrewer

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mane2008 said:
Looking really good man. One quick question though if you don't mind.
Will you be making any kind of hash or canna-butter with your trimmings, or do you just toss them?
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If I had more time on my hands, I would do that. But between a 9-5 job and a few other hobbies, I stay pretty busy :(. I do make hash from the small buds at the bottoms of the plants from time to time, but that only ever yields a few grams.
 
epicseeds

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beautiful! looking forward to a taste/frostyness/weight/etc comparison! what are your preliminary feelings...is DG a keeper?
 
Mazar i Shariff

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Nice bro ... Can you take a pic with a lighter or something next to one of your larger nugs so it can scale it and give us an idea of what size you achieved? How is the density looking?
 
homebrewer

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Mazar i Shariff said:
Nice bro ... Can you take a pic with a lighter or something next to one of your larger nugs so it can scale it and give us an idea of what size you achieved? How is the density looking?
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They're only about as wide as your fists. You don't want to grow huge buds with this strain, they'll mold because of the density. That's why I topped in veg and supercropped in flower.
 
anomolies

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Mazar i Shariff said:
I'm not an 'i told ya so' kinda guy ...

I just wanted to point out that I mentioned a few weeks ago the leaves were too dark green and that grow being added anywhere past Week 2 could be the cause due to too much N, possible lockout even. Nice to hear the CEO of Dyna Gro agrees with me, I guess. LOL

The reason why there can easily be too much Nitrogen, is that the nutrient is so vital in it's ability to be broken down and used for creating new vegetatitive growth. Unfort, N is not used in large quantities for Bud Growth. Mainly just leaves, stem/stalk, new branching. While it needs to be present for proper growth during Flower, your vertical growth, branching, ... pretty much stops after the plant is 2-3 weeks into Flower, and it no longer requires anywhere near those higher N levels it once did. People laugh when I said I'm doing a PK spike during flowering and are like, I don't do that my plants need N, too! Well, yes. But in low doses. My Kushie Kush was actually prob my fav ratio and worked better than other nutes towards the end of flowering when I do PK spikes, which consisted of a ratio of 1-7-17. Too much N at the end of flowering will also prevent them from being able to properly autumn off (yellow) and break down the plants chemical concentration so that it can decrease and taste/smoke better in the end.

And about foliar feeding. For those who choose to do this, you should highly consider lowering your hydro/soil feeds if you are going to feed the plant thru it's vegetation, as well, or you can easily burn even if levels thru both ends are ideal, as the overall qty used will still add up to be too much in the end.

***Sorry homebrewer, I didn't mean to make such a big post on some stuff that at times can seem Cannabis101, but I felt it was relevent to bring up again since we're discussing your plants condition, Nitrogen toxicity, what DG CEO said, ...
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IMO I think some strains actually use a little bit more N in bloom than in veg. I was using 3-1-2 in veg and when I switched to 2-2-3 in bloom I started getting mad yellowing.
 
mane2008

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homebrewer said:
If I had more time on my hands, I would do that. But between a 9-5 job and a few other hobbies, I stay pretty busy :(. I do make hash from the small buds at the bottoms of the plants from time to time, but that only ever yields a few grams.
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Aww that kinda sucks, anyways congrats on your soon to be monstrous harvest! I'll be tuning into all your future grows. hopefully you'll tune into mines when i start back up.
 
homebrewer

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Here are a few bud shots today of my AK47 being grown with GH. They're a few days past 60 and I've decided to harvest over the next few days. These will serve as a reference point for my AK47 tray with DG and Floralicious Plus nutes (should be done in about 3 weeks). These buds really aren't that big at all but this plant/pheno/strain is a deceivingly good yielder. The plant will be covered with these golf ball sized buds (and larger) but their density is good and the final total weight is what is important. For example, I harvested 3 AK dirt plants out of a group of 9 that were being grown under a 600 and the total from all 3 was 8.1 ounces. I was a little surprised in that the plants actually looked kinda skimpy.

Anyways, here are some shots of their final hours. Hopefully the DG and Floralicious plus tray looks just as good, though the yield on the DG tray looks to be better than the GH tray, too early to call though.







 
nixusr

nixusr

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Very nice grow! Nice photography too! I wish my cam's macro setting actually shot like this!

Can't wait to see the outcome of the DG tray! Drums are rolling....
 
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i always used DG because i started out with it and orchids....i like botanicare's Cal-Mg better though it has a 2-0-0 and i use it for seedlings @ 100ppm and its never failed one of those medical books say to much 'K' and i think 'P' causes more males etc.....anyways i find DG grows everything good another good fertilizer i've used for N and K supplementation and its cheap is MSU fertilizer its great for vegging anything really super concentrate etc....i use GH nectar for the humic/fulvic acid not sure if this really helps though @ about 50ppm and i always add a 1/4 teaspoon of blackstrap etc....again not sure if humic acid helps much with hydro-nutes well if their organic but not the inorganic types ....oh botnicare's cal-mg @ 100ppm in RO water sets the ph @ 5.5-6.0 just about as good as it gets for hydro setups
 
Sir Psycho Sexy

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You're the man brew. i've been silently following along and am thinking about doing a similar experiment, only i'd compare cheap powder nutes (GH maxibloom and gro) to, say, the DG line with protekt then do the math and compare cost per gram.

Simplicity is also a HUGE plus because I grow at a friends house (i grow the bud they pay electricity and get a cut) and between work and school i only have time and motivation to go over there twice a week at the most. This setup also means that, apart from the startup costs, the cost of fertilizer is pretty much the only thing coming out of my pocket.

So this might apply to me a bit more than you guys, but thought you might be interested. Im actually yielding suprisingly well using just GH gro and bloom powder. changed the water maybe 3 or 4 times since first setting up the clones in tubs, topped off every few days to a week. Rarely kept track of ppm never checked ph. So pretty neglected in other words. However, it wasn't until recently (im in the last week of flowering) that i had ratio problems and got some fucked up burnt/deficient looking leaves. And the nugs dont seem to mind at all at this point just swelling and ripening.. i'm not talking about gram per watt kind of yields but they did great considering the circumstances. I'll post pics on harvest day.

So thats the plan, compare a low cost/low maintainance grow to a line of hydro nutes in carefully balanced ratios and find the best compromise between the two. Suggestions?

Keep doing what you do homebrew, we'll be waiting for the final verdict

Peace
 
RastaMonsta

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hmm im not sure if that DG is compeating too well against that GH.mayb its the additives but those buds look fucking sick bro! awesome pictures,makes me feel like they are in my face. i wish i could smell them.lol
 
homebrewer

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Thanks for the compliments fellas!

Sir Psycho Sexy - I've heard good things about maxi grow before. There are a lot of formulas out there that probably work very well and knowing that cheaper powder formulas can work as well as their expensive liquid counterparts is good to know!

Rasta - If I was only comparing base nutes, I don't think there would be any difference in the appearance of the buds. There is nothing offered in the GH 3 part that DG isn't offering in their grow/bloom formulas. In fact, the DG base offers about 6 more micro nutrients than GH. The reason I use Sweet, FloraBlend, Floralicious plus and koolbloom dry with the GH 3 part is that they all seem to increase overall plant health as well as resin production. In a few weeks I'll be comparing the final results of the AK47 pics above to the AK47 that's currently being grown with DG and Floralicious plus. Visual appearance aside, final yields and the smoke report should available next week for the dumpster grow and that's ultimately what matters. Thanks for following along and I'm really excited for the results.

Here is a preliminary nug shot of a DynaGro Dumpster bud that isn't quite dry yet.

 
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