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White Tail. I know where they live, when they move, etc. So, it's easy. But an whole 10 minutes... I'm working on a couch out the front door, so I don't have to carry my beer & smokes SO FAR!. My first deer, kilt with a tire iron. Bullets is expensive. (Actually, a doe was standing on the side of the road, addled, she had been sideswiped. I beat her down with the tire iron.)" The second, I brought home, hung it up, told my Deer hunting wife, "I don't know how to clear a deer. She said, "Act like it's a squirrel". Hell, I'm ole hand at that. Half way through, I told her, "If you want something cut up, ask a carpenter (me), I brought out the sawz-all, and had my way. I don't like horny deer, can't eat horns. We are WAY over populated around here, deer everywhere. Even caught a baby, raised it. The Mamma was dead. Cut a hole in a diaper, for the tail, it lived in the house until He got bigger.

Always compost your manure first for at least 6 months...never apply directly to the soil or as a mulch. It will burn the roots.

Egg is very good as was posted, but milk is another great organic fertilizer. You can also use 1 part milk to 4 parts water and as a nitrogen building fertilizer. Plants LOVE milk.


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I wonder if spent, high nitrogen aquarium water would work... looking into it.

I compost eggshells inside the brown paper carton they come in. Worms love cardboard!

Worms & milk products don't mix well.

def no dairy or meat...

tea bags are full of goodies, and we drink a lot of sweet tea.

coffee grounds, etc.

HIGHFLY said:

what bout horse shit dat any good?

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horse shit is good, pretty much any animal that's a herbivore. just some are better than others, dunno where horse shit stands... i pity da foo

yaa rabbit shit gotta try dat heard its really good for da plants. just how am i gonna get rabbit shit

I have been making my own compost for years for my garden (the legal one).

I put egg shells, crushed oyster shells, dead leaves, old veggies, coffee grounds, ashes, and I even have 2 pet goats and I put their shit in it too!

Just throw it all together with good ventilation and turn it every week. Loaded with nutrients and works great.

Black Gold Baby!

what is da compost in?

Unicorn droppings are top notch. They create magical rainbow beams that increase the THC content by 50% (but only if they were ridden by a certified leprechaun from the enchanted forest.)
WTF is it with people adding amendments without doing a basic soil test? Yes, eggshells contain calcium and over a very, very long time may provide a fairly insoluble form that can eventually be available to the plants. The problem is we are talking about an annual weed here folks. This involves a limited time-frame to get the plants up, vegetate, then hopefully flower. If you have a site that you use continually over the course of several years yes there are certain benefits to using the various organic amendments that many people recommend. After looking at my soil tests, I base my fertility needs according to what the plant requires for healthy growth, not heresay. I see people paying enormous sums of money for nutrients that are considered "organic" (as if they are inferior to synthetic) with similar or even inferior results. When I purchase a bag of fertilizer, the manufacturer has something printed on the bag called a guaranteed analysis. This means I can count on that product having precisely the macro/micro-nutrients in the right ratios that I am looking for. I daresay that rabbit droppings, fish carcasses or whatever rotting plant/animal matter can't,with any degree of accuracy. If the soil test does say that I need some sort of organic matter then I follow the recommendations and add it as required but not before. If however,you are not concerned with attracting all kinds of animals to coming pawing up your precious babies, then by all means put any type panda shit-from-the-himalayan-mountains on 'em that you can find. Just make sure to howl at the moon and bang a gong while doing so or it will not work.

i get wat ur saying but natural shit is just better u cant relie on sum fukin soil u buy at da stupid store besides i like fukin experimenting and shit

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i get wat ur saying but natural shit is just better u cant relie on sum fukin soil u buy at da stupid store besides i like fukin experimenting and shit

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Using your logic I stand corrected. I'm not sure what I was thinking. I think I got all tied up with facts, research, documentation and 28 years in the green-industry. All I had to do was "fukin experiment and shit."

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sharing info is always cool, but take your preaching elsewhere.

Carl Spackler said:

Unicorn droppings are top notch. They create magical rainbow beams that increase the THC content by 50% (but only if they were ridden by a certified leprechaun from the enchanted forest.)
WTF is it with people adding amendments without doing a basic soil test? Yes, eggshells contain calcium and over a very, very long time may provide a fairly insoluble form that can eventually be available to the plants. The problem is we are talking about an annual weed here folks. This involves a limited time-frame to get the plants up, vegetate, then hopefully flower. If you have a site that you use continually over the course of several years yes there are certain benefits to using the various organic amendments that many people recommend. After looking at my soil tests, I base my fertility needs according to what the plant requires for healthy growth, not heresay. I see people paying enormous sums of money for nutrients that are considered "organic" (as if they are inferior to synthetic) with similar or even inferior results. When I purchase a bag of fertilizer, the manufacturer has something printed on the bag called a guaranteed analysis. This means I can count on that product having precisely the macro/micro-nutrients in the right ratios that I am looking for. I daresay that rabbit droppings, fish carcasses or whatever rotting plant/animal matter can't,with any degree of accuracy. If the soil test does say that I need some sort of organic matter then I follow the recommendations and add it as required but not before. If however,you are not concerned with attracting all kinds of animals to coming pawing up your precious babies, then by all means put any type panda shit-from-the-himalayan-mountains on 'em that you can find. Just make sure to howl at the moon and bang a gong while doing so or it will not work.

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Sounds to me like you should be buying your weed and not growing it. Maybe you can ask your dealer for a test hit. That could be your "guaranteed analysis" that the shit will get you high!

I think for most people on these forums it is about learning and discovering how to grow a plant. Asking other members for advice and a lot of trial and error. And if someone prefers to grow something organic then so be it. That is his or her choice.

But seriously man, downing people because they want to learn how to make their own compost and prefer a more natural renewable is just wrong.

And who was ever talking about going out and buying expensive ass organic fertilizers? We are talking about making our own. Which is A LOT cheaper than the stuff you BUY.

My total fert. budget for 2009...$11.86. I'm accustomed to buying fert's by the ton to cover acreage, not a couple dozen plants that have relatively low-fertility requirements to begin with. I have absolutley nothing against growing anything organic. I just believe...no, I know that there are too many variables to be accounted for without simply adding nutrients that may even be detrimental to the plants. I've looked at many posts in the Organic section of this forum and have seen hundreds of photos of people burning the shit out of their plants with nutrients that are considered "safe" or "superior" to conventional ferts. I hate to see anyone take a perfectly happy plant, and due to micro-management or just plain ignorance kill it with kindness. I'm here to learn as well but when I see something that has no basis on hard science, I'm liable to let them have it with both barrells. Sorry if that isn't being helpful in your eyes.

First of all. you have to give Carl a WELL DONE for his terrific role in Caddyshack.

I too have been in the green industry for many years...oh let's see....19 years...crap I'm getting old . Having grown literally millions of plants, I can safely say that certainly for my business interests, I would never use compost as a soil source. There are just too many variables, and as Carl posted, unless you can do your own analysis on the compost...it's makeup is unknown to you.

I have been running a compost setup for many years, but only use it in my personal vegetable gardens. By tilling the compost into my native soils I reach a happy medium of stability and enrichment. Of course once mixed into my site, I let it sit for at least a month before planting any seed.

Weed...... I have access to professional grade soil at a wholesale price since I never buy less than 25 yards at a time, soil which has been analyzed and nudged into growing perfection. I can order any fert compilation I want to be mixed in with it, but I usually only have them add micro nutrients as I use containers and add my different fert mix on the fly while planting.

Organic fert vs commercial fert. I know a lot of people think there's a HUGE difference to the plant on whether the fert is organic or non organic. There isn't..... Are all commercial fert's the same? heck no.... the stuff you get at Wal-Fart etc. is the lowest grade available and it will work but not nearly as well as the stuff I use and probably Carl as well. The plant does not give one whit whether the origin is naturally induced or chemically induced....nitrogen is nitrogen, no matter the origin. Organics will feed over a time compared to Wal-fart fert's..... however again, if you step up to nursery grade professional time relesed fert's....no organic fert can match it...NONE. Certainly not on the basis of cost and convenience.

Now I don't know Carl, except for his fantastic rendition of Gopher love with a rubber hose....but he's pretty accurate in what he posted.

If you are going to use home made compost for a grow....let it sit on the grow site for at least a month or more. I would not reccommend growing with 100% home made compost if you want a PERFECT grow. Mix and sit...mix and sit....then plant.






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they stimulate flowering.....n they got ph of arround 8. which you can use it to control the soils ph

CombatSkill said:

they stimulate flowering.....n they got ph of arround 8. which you can use it to control the soils ph

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what are you talking about?

Carl Spackler said:

My total fert. budget for 2009...$11.86. I'm accustomed to buying fert's by the ton to cover acreage, not a couple dozen plants that have relatively low-fertility requirements to begin with. I have absolutley nothing against growing anything organic. I just believe...no, I know that there are too many variables to be accounted for without simply adding nutrients that may even be detrimental to the plants. I've looked at many posts in the Organic section of this forum and have seen hundreds of photos of people burning the shit out of their plants with nutrients that are considered "safe" or "superior" to conventional ferts. I hate to see anyone take a perfectly happy plant, and due to micro-management or just plain ignorance kill it with kindness. I'm here to learn as well but when I see something that has no basis on hard science, I'm liable to let them have it with both barrells. Sorry if that isn't being helpful in your eyes.

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Thanks Carl, I found most of what you're saying very helpful and not preaching!