SirSmokealot55
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Is there any type of electric filter that I can plug my cords into to mask how much electric that I am using?????????
Electric Bill
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Dirty Harry
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Nope. The electricity enters the meter first and flows into your home. There is nothing you can put onto your cords to cheat the meter. Tampering with your meter is a very big NO NO.
There are things that will tell you how much your using so you can get an idea, but nothing to give free electricity.
There are things that will tell you how much your using so you can get an idea, but nothing to give free electricity.
ZaVe
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The power company isn't the one who fucks you over..
Think of it like this.. Gas companies.. Each winter EVERYONE who uses GAS heating, their bill goes up. The gas company doesn't care, and it's not a red flag. They are happy you are using more, and paying for it.
Electric companies - THEY COULD CARE LESS. If you are using their power, at any amount. If you AREN'T stealing it, and are paying for it, they are happy.
BUT - IF the police get word of anything that's going on at your place, they can and WILL goto the power company to view your meter usage. ANYONE can do this, there is NO warrant needed.
Before I moved into my new house, I went to the electric company, and asked what the current monthly bill was at the residence I was moving into. They showed me EVERYTHING. When it went up, down, and the dollar amount of the bill.
In the summer people have central air, Air conditioners, pool heaters, pool filters, a LOT of other power consuming appliances.
As long as no one gets a RED FLAG that your growing weed, your power consumption should not be a concern. Pay for it, don't steal it or try to 'cheat' the system.
PS, the average toaster oven is 1200WATTS+ , just to put it into perspective.
Think of it like this.. Gas companies.. Each winter EVERYONE who uses GAS heating, their bill goes up. The gas company doesn't care, and it's not a red flag. They are happy you are using more, and paying for it.
Electric companies - THEY COULD CARE LESS. If you are using their power, at any amount. If you AREN'T stealing it, and are paying for it, they are happy.
BUT - IF the police get word of anything that's going on at your place, they can and WILL goto the power company to view your meter usage. ANYONE can do this, there is NO warrant needed.
Before I moved into my new house, I went to the electric company, and asked what the current monthly bill was at the residence I was moving into. They showed me EVERYTHING. When it went up, down, and the dollar amount of the bill.
In the summer people have central air, Air conditioners, pool heaters, pool filters, a LOT of other power consuming appliances.
As long as no one gets a RED FLAG that your growing weed, your power consumption should not be a concern. Pay for it, don't steal it or try to 'cheat' the system.
PS, the average toaster oven is 1200WATTS+ , just to put it into perspective.
High&Hopefull
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L.E.D. lights are still new to the scene but I just bought one that is equal to a 400hps and it only uses 90 watts thats the equivalent of one light bulb
crazy7605150
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how much that set u back .... and how good does it work
SirSmokealot55
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thank you all very much I have the room to grow alot just wondering what I can get away with. I here people on here running 12 1000 watt I just dont see how they can do this and not get caught.
bulletproofhoodies
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you could drop like 1000$ on a generator and plug your stuff into that then its free
Mindmelted
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Keep on thinking that and you will not be disappointed.
police may access to your power usage, but much tougher to say 'that's a grow'
from pottery kilns to big entertainment centers - lot of electric being used for all kind of things
RickWhite
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You can buy a generator - I'd use a natural gas model. Or you can stick to smaller lights and use light movers.
I wouldn't try to steal electricity if that's what you are suggesting. A lot of people just got caught doing that where I live.
But power use alone tells them nothing. If you stay low key and don't have 10 car loads full of teenagers pulling in and out of your driveway every day you can fly under the radar.
born2killspam
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You'll be paying atleast 5x as much/kWh running a generator, and if you live in the city I'd say thats a pretty big red-flag right there, I mean how do you explain running a generator when there is cheaper power in the wall..
I don't see how a power bill is enough to give a reason for a search warrant, think about it like ZaVe said; there are a lot of things around your house that draw electricity, unless you're stealing power and not paying your bills I don't see how someone could use it against you. Even if they looked at the time intervals (if they could) and saw you were drawing X amount of current on a plant light schedule there is a lot of people with fish tanks, terrariums, etc. that use timers.
Yes, you can build a generator system using electric motors instead of gasoline. You would still be drawing current from your home power, but it would be a lot less.
I saw an entire machine shop run multiple 3 phase machines off one 110v standard wall outlet using this method.
skunkiefun
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Check this out.
Video Link: https://www.energyindependencestartshere.com/pages/KVAR-Energy-Controller-Video/9/
The product demo starts at 2:48
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Video Link: https://www.energyindependencestartshere.com/pages/KVAR-Energy-Controller-Video/9/
The product demo starts at 2:48
Product Link: https://www.energyindependencestartshere.com/products/Medium-Residential-KVAR-Energy-Controller-PU-1200/1/
born2killspam
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Can I buy one of these perpetual motion machines on ebay??
Sorry but you'd be wasting energy using electric motors.. Just a damned thermodynamic law.. The rig you saw 'allows' you to run a 3-phase motor on typical 110V, and that privledge comes at an energy conversion cost too..
RickWhite
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See, this is the problem with our current education system. LOL!
Not trying to bust your balls but that is incredibly stupid. You are talking about a perpetual motion machine. When ever you convert one form of energy to another there is always a net loss - never a gain. But I digress.
What you guys need to understand is that we no longer have 4th amendment rights because judges hand out search warrants like hot dogs at a ball game. All the cops need to do is say we suspect them for reasons x,y & z. The thing is not to draw suspicion to your self and not not get crazy with your operation. Cops don't like to waste their resources on small fish.
SirSmokealot55
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I didnt want to steal anything first off. I just wanna be as safe as possible. I think Im gonna buy a few solar panels and call it a day. Plus they will help with the rest of the house as well thank you all for your input.
Mindmelted
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Solar panels are not cheap.My friend had his house checked out for solar,and to pay for a $200 a month electric bill it would cost him almost $60,000.So in 20 years it is still not paid for itself.