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woodsmantoker

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Heads Up: Cut one of the wires at the hole where your rouge branch is located and bend it out of the way; It should be easier then to move the branch to another hole. Afterwards simply bend the wire back creating the original hole again...
 

woodsmantoker

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How bout some of our fine scrog experts out there chime in and help out the fellas that have questions, I will be away for a bit. Thanks folks!

Woodsmantoker
 

mike91sr

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Heads Up: Cut one one of the wires at the hole where your branch is and bend it out of the way, it should be easier then to move the branch to another hole. Afterwards simply bend the wire back creating the original hole again...
Never thought of that, good idea for preventing slip-ups when "delicately" tugging a plant down and under to move it over 1 hole.
 

andthatisright

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Hi guys, This is my first scrog and as u can see its over growing a bit, so the idea of all buds getting light seems to have gone out the window
anybody any ideas what i should do?
Take out all the undergrowth in around the screen or do alot of bending...
Its day 26 of flowering
OG Kush
Nft recirculating trays
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWeX1UAqxfA
 

mike91sr

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Until someone with more experience comes in, I just dont know how comfortable I'd feel really thinning out a plant 4 weeks into flower...Id try to bend to do the best I can, and use it as a learning experience for next time.
 

woodsmantoker

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Andthatisright - Video was a bit short and hard to see your entire area, thus making it more difficult to judge your concerns. Unless your are concerned that you may need more space between the canopy and the lamp, I wouldn't suggest doing anything other than adding a secondary screen (of larger mesh size) to support towering colas. Otherwise, you will have a nice full carpet and that shouldn't be a problem ;)

Be sure to accommodate the canopy with proper air flow to avoid excess moisture from being trapped and causing problems. Clip on fans work well under the screen. If you do experience problems, thinning is always an option typically done by selecting what is to be removed and making the cuts just below the screen.

Looks great.
Woodsmantoker~
 

andthatisright

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Hi yeah your right i'll play it by ear and take out a bit here and there thats down near the screen, and your dead right about the fans ive been half thinking about getting another couple in cause ive seen wet on a leaf or 2 a couple of times lately so its a big must now

Thankyou and great thread
 

BigBudzzzz

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I thought I would take a moment and share my outdoor SCROG with all of you.

Sometimes people get too hung-up on one type of grow style or technique - indoor vs outdoor, LST or lollipoping, organic vs hydro and so on, but these are all just different tools in the tool chest. A good workman matches the right tool to the right job. And in this particular case the right tool was the tried and true SCROG method.

For most outdoor strains I would usually let the plant bush out as much as possible, tying it up and out with wire and using netting and poles for support. But in this case I have a strain thats the perfect candidate for a big time SCROG.

This plant has several draw-backs outdoors - it needs a lot of training and support, and it also has extremely brittle branches that don't take kindly to being tied up or out.

The strain is called Purple Sour Diesel, it's one of the few good strains I have that flowers early enough to finish in October. (that's why I grow it)

This was what they looked like when they went in the ground on June 20. The first two rows are Purple Sour Diesel. Five plants in each row.



For my 'screen' I used 50'x4' roll of fence.

This was taken the day the fence was put on - July 23.



At this stage the plants are already flowering but they will continue to grow a lot and will remain pliable (bendy branches) for weeks to come.

The squares are the perfect size and spacing to train tops through.

This was shot on the same day - July 23.



A few days later it looked like this.


For the next few weeks I kept training horizontally; filling up as many squares as possible with tops.

If any tops got too tall they got popped over to an empty square.



Eventually it went from this....


To this....



As the stems started getting brittle and hard to bend I let everything go vertical. By then the space was pretty full.



This was taken at the beginning of September.



And this was taken last week.



As you can see...it's turning out very nice! (better then I expected)

So there you have it.

Nothing new or earth shattering. Just standard SCROG practices. Most people use it to maximize tops in the grow zone. I use it more for strength and support. It's the exact same techniques though, just on a larger scale.

I hope you enjoyed my take on the SCROG method!



Porky
Speachless,,,,,,,,,,,
 

woodsmantoker

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...My New Grow Room, Sub'd. :bigjoint:

Check out my baby girls. They are shapping up to be very interesting.

A HAIRY START
I believe your "hair" may be the midrib of the leaf exposed, lacking chlorophyll thus apearing white . Likely will be the last time you see that on the plant. Those leafs are the first to emerge after the cotyledon. Likely exposed to something in the soil just after germination that resulted in this occurrence. IMO

Your plants seem to be exhibiting serious results of imbalanced soil, this should be corrected long prior to screening. Gently washing the roots off and transplanting to a proper soil is my one and only non scrog recommendation. Take it for what its worth buddy! Good luck to ya.

If I didn't know you were a scrogger I wouldn't have bothered. (here anyway) :D

Diagram showing Midrib:http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=iagram+showing+Midrib+of+leaf&view=detail&id=183291E5738F3CABE3568A959ED5ADA051A1C652&first=0&FORM=IDFRIR
 

BigBudzzzz

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I believe your "hair" may be the midrib of the leaf exposed, lacking chlorophyll thus apearing white . Likely will be the last time you see that on the plant. Those leafs are the first to emerge after the cotyledon. Likely exposed to something in the soil just after germination that resulted in this occurrence. IMO

Your plants seem to be exhibiting serious results of imbalanced soil, this should be corrected long prior to screening. Gently washing the roots off and transplanting to a proper soil is my one and only non scrog recommendation. Take it for what its worth buddy! Good luck to ya.

If I didn't know you were a scrogger I wouldn't have bothered. (here anyway) :D

Diagram showing Midrib:http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=iagram+showing+Midrib+of+leaf&view=detail&id=183291E5738F3CABE3568A959ED5ADA051A1C652&first=0&FORM=IDFRIR
Yeah I know, thanks Bro! I know you got my back. Gonna implement your suggestions this weekend. Stay tuned, its gonna be fun!! :bigjoint:

Question...
I've used Happy Frog in the past when I transfer. Been thinking about trying Canna Coco like what Dapio's Scrogg Round #1 used. But I dont know much about it yet and I want to try something different. What do you think about that or do you have any suggestions, I'm open....

EDIT...
But on a budget!!:bigjoint:
 

stelthy

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If possible I'd move your in-line fan to the other side/out-side of your cab.. Its better to suck the air out instead of blowing it out... I made the same mistake when I was new to growing/designing cabs etc.. the way it is at the moment you run the risk of the In-Line fan sucking onto the wall (left side) - When the cab doors are closed!..

Apart from that its looking good!! What are your thoughts ? - STELTHY :leaf:
 

stelthy

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Although I put my girl into flower a little late I am still pleased with her outcome so far :) :) She has just started to show her 1st little Flowers today, and they are beautiful !! Hope you like the pic I took it just before my UV-B switched off at the end of her (Royal-Haze) day-time (12/12) :) - STELTHY :leaf:
 

woodsmantoker

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Folks, I am looking at needing to peel out of this spot within the next week, i will be attending mothers in the mean time and will not be starting the training tutorial until after the HT cup on the 15-16th.

In the mean time, whats going on in your neck of the woods?
 
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