Fedral judge lol's at Obama Florida voter purge is legal

ginwilly

ginwilly

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well the point is despite cries from the left that there is this huge conglomerate of people who have never had an ID and would be eligible to vote if they could afford to own one, they have offered no proof.Not one shred, ironically hypocritical isn't it. If the ID cost 5 bucks (lol at 25 and 50 being cost of IDs, that's taxes guys) and 10 million citizens needed ID that's 50 million bucks. DC throws away 50 million worth of food. Who thinks there are that many?

To be consistent I want it paid for though, we can't borrow another 50 mill for IDs. We can cut that easily.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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canndo said:
Let us use that same simple equation. Take the number of fraudulent votes and subtract them from the number of voters who are no longer able to vote because of Voter ID laws. if the number is more than zero then those who advocate voter ID are the ones with no respect for democracy. I have posed a few of the studies that indicate that legitimate voters may not have supporting documentation - as many as 11 percent according to some studies. Now how about you show us something rather than simply stating that Sanchez stole her election. All you seem to have is rumor. I posted solild evidence for my case.
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Are those 11% of voters normally distributed across the political spectrum, i.e. is it only (or mostly) Democrats who don't have supporting documentation? If it is normally distributed then the net effect is essentially zero and no problem in determining outcome.

I can already hear you and Buck: "Poorest hardest hit...".

My proposed solution for the democrats is to get out ahead of the elections that they want to rig and help all of their voters dig through the couch cushions and other crafty hiding places where their IDs have been hiding.

Isn't it embarrassing to you guys to have to get on here and admit that your party is filled with a bunch of nincompoops so dumb that a large percentage of them can't find their driver's license? And to further the embarrassment, nobody ever accuses the other party of having such a problem?

And further, if you are an independent voter trying to decide who to vote for, who are you going to favor, the side that does everything in their power to protect and embrace voter fraud, or the side that tries to do something about it?
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Red1966 said:
No, that is the point. Voter fraud doesn't have to be widespread to change the outcome of an election. George Bush won Florida, and the presidency, by less than 500 votes or less than 1/10 a percent. 100 plus illegal votes were cast for Gore in Jacksonville alone. If the Democratic Party had been able to buy just a few more votes, they would have been able to steal the election.
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whereas the GOP did steal the election with their voter purge in 2000.

funny how you leave that out, and telling.
 
Johnny Retro

Johnny Retro

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UncleBuck said:
still not ready to defend your unconstitutional poll tax, i see. :lol:
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I paid 5 dollars for my ID
I paid for the gas in my car to take me to vote.
God damn unconstitutional tax! We must do somthing about this madness! Where do they get off making ME pay a tax to vote!

Be careful, your logic is showing.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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Johnny Retro said:
I paid 5 dollars for my ID
I paid for the gas in my car to take me to vote.
God damn unconstitutional tax! We must do somthing about this madness! Where do they get off making ME pay a tax to vote!

Be careful, your logic is showing.
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IDs cost $56 here, and are only good for 8 years. all that is required to register to vote here is proof of residence, and we do mail in ballots, although i walk mine in on election day. it's a good system.
 
desert dude

desert dude

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UncleBuck said:
whereas the GOP did steal the election with their voter purge in 2000.

funny how you leave that out, and telling.
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Do you also recall the attempt by the Dems to invalidate the absentee Florida ballots from soldiers stationed overseas in the 2000 election? Funny how you leave that out. Gore lost the 2000 election, get over it.

Should I call a WAAAAHHHHHHMMBulance?
 
Johnny Retro

Johnny Retro

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UncleBuck said:
i know the constitution means nothing to you, but can you please knock off the blatant bigotry? it is offensive to everyone here who does not share your bigoted views.

also, i know retarded illegal immigrant children with a better command of the english language than you.
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Gotta love the hypocisy. You have taken it up a notch and have proved yourself in the same post. LOL
 
desert dude

desert dude

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UncleBuck said:
until they hand out IDs for free, requiring an ID to vote is explicitly against the 24th amendment.
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I don't think the 24th means what you think it means.

" 24th amendment:
Section 1. The right of citizens of the United States to vote in any primary or other election for President or Vice President, for electors for President or Vice President, or for Senator or Representative in Congress, shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or any State by reason of failure to pay any poll tax or other tax. Section 2. The Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation."




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Johnny Retro

Johnny Retro

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UncleBuck said:
IDs cost $56 here, and are only good for 8 years. all that is required to register to vote here is proof of residence, and we do mail in ballots, although i walk mine in on election day. it's a good system.
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A tax is a tax, no matter the amount.

I am sorry your liberal state is keeping the poor man down.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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ChesusRice said:
You have Barney Frank as your avatar
I hope that means you sincerly admire one of the most Pro Pot politicians in Washington DC
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no, he makes fun of him for being homosexual.

another shining example of the right's tolerance and respect for diversity.
 
Johnny Retro

Johnny Retro

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ChesusRice said:
You have Barney Frank as your avatar
I hope that means you sincerly admire one of the most Pro Pot politicians in Washington DC
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Isn't he cute? I wish he wasn't dating that Fannie Mae guy, I would be alllll over him :hump:. Oh, and we probably wouldn't be in the mess we are in now. Silly Barney!
 
Johnny Retro

Johnny Retro

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UncleBuck said:
no, he makes fun of him for being homosexual.

another shining example of the right's tolerance and respect for diversity.
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That's funny coming from you.

Oh, and could you show me where I made fun of him for being gay? Your partisan talking points strike again.
 
Red1966

Red1966

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canndo said:
Let us use that same simple equation. Take the number of fraudulent votes and subtract them from the number of voters who are no longer able to vote because of Voter ID laws. if the number is more than zero then those who advocate voter ID are the ones with no respect for democracy. I have posed a few of the studies that indicate that legitimate voters may not have supporting documentation - as many as 11 percent according to some studies. Now how about you show us something rather than simply stating that Sanchez stole her election. All you seem to have is rumor. I posted solild evidence for my case.
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Funny, all I saw was opinions trying to wear the cloak of facts.. Just because they agree with you doesn't make them correct. You're not viewing them objectively. Your premise has a terrible flaw. You're assuming the "disenfranchised" voters would all vote the same way. That is pure conjecture. However, an organized group committing voter fraud would be absolutely be voting the same way. The 11% percent figure you quote is just not believable. Borrowing UnclePartisanHack's method of attempting to define the issue so that it favors your viewpoint is disingenuous and dishonest. Frankly, following the lead of person who won't work and still is unable or unwilling to control his bodily functions is unwise. Showing a photo ID to vote is not an undue burden. I think you would be hard pressed to find any substantial number of people that are legal voters who don't have have ID. You can even use a food stamp ID. Poor people have no trouble providing ID to get on welfare, food stamps, or other government entitlements. Those claiming that "the poor" can't provide ID are being dishonest. Having witnessed, and reported, voter fraud personally, I was disgusted to see election officials REFUSE to investigate. I gave them the plate number of the bus, a description of the driver (who entered the booth with the disabled people and cast the vote "for" them), the names and address of three of the people (out of over 100) whose vote was bought or stolen (several were mentally retarded), the address of the polling place, the address of the store where they bought the beer and cigarettes, and the location where the bus was parked prior to and after the vote fraud. So when people say there's no proven record of voter fraud, I know that voter fraud is seldom prosecuted. While I will not deny Republicans have engaged in vote fraud, the vast majority of it has been by Democrats, the same people claiming voter suppression. This "win at any cost" mentality is immoral and threatens the democratic principles this country was founded upon.
 
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