Finally...I'm gonna do it right..well..As right as space permits.

Hi everyone, I am starting at the very beginning of this endeavor.I have grown for a few years indoor and out but always on a very small scale. This time I am going to take what space i have and build a roomin my garage that will have seperate spaces veg and flower.The space right now while naked measures 4ft w. x 15ft l. and height is about 9 1\2 ft .By the time i insulate andbuild an actual room around it im guesing about 3 1\2 ft w. x 9ft for flowering and 3 1\2 ft w. x 4ft l. for vegging.
Right now i am having issues uploading pictures so i will have to add them later. I welcome all informed comments and advice.

these shelves are currently under deconstruction.

so i am definately going to be building my own system out of 5" sq. vinyl fence posts and pvc pipe. So can someone point me in the direction of a similar thread?

if ne1 has issues with vinyl post please let me know.

okay so heres what happened , i thought if i had something growing it would hurry me along in getting my room together , well now here i sit with some neglected looking plants and a stupid look on my face.ive got spider mites and i cant seem to get rid of them. also my ph is too acidic , i flushed a couple days ago and the ph came up for a while but is back down between the 5 and six on the soil meter.help please .

please guys help me i have barely fed them any nutes cause of the miracle grow soil and when i did feed them it was with only 1.5 ml\gal of botanicaire pro grow and a lil superthrive , i never used to have issues with miracle grow soil with white russian but this is my first time with la confidential and I NEED HELP PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

im about to go get some dolemite lime to try and fix my ph problem cause watering with appropiately ph'd water has only helped raise the ph for a day and then it drops back down to like 5-5.5-6.0. i know i have some mites that im gonna use some diluted ortho elementals on. i really would like some input here please ne1 who knows.thank you.

will be moving to a homebuilt aeroflo like system nxt.

no help at all huh?

guess ill have to abandon this for grasscity.com and see if mabye i can get some help there.

no no no , i refuse to abandon rollitup cause i looked at grasscity and it made me feel like i was in a cubicle , plus i really enjoy rollitup.
so now that i've had a nice little thread drama with myself mabye someone with the proper knowledge will feel bad and help me out. i didnt get my prop 215 recommendation to chase my tale and grow crappy meds.

did mites cause the deformed leaves or is it from the miracle grow soil? i know im a jerkass for usin the miracle grow soil but ima world renowned slacker which would explain why im even in soil again when i had been "planning" on building a really super cool
totally bad azz bitchin aero room and yet here i am presenting you all with a ramshackle hut room that isnt even walled in , i mean it doesnt even have a whole floor yall , and the reflectors that the250 watt mh's are in have half the inner reflective surface cut off cause the guy who had them first connected them all with ducting and metal taped plastic lenses to them making his own air cooled lights, i have removed the heat bubbled plastic lenses and the ductwork and tried to reflect the light back down to my plants with alluminum foil , i am currently "planning" to build either seperate reflectors or 1 big reflector , i need help with this also please.

axionjaxson said:

no no no , i refuse to abandon rollitup cause i looked at grasscity and it made me feel like i was in a cubicle , plus i really enjoy rollitup.
so now that i've had a nice little thread drama with myself mabye someone with the proper knowledge will feel bad and help me out. i didnt get my prop 215 recommendation to chase my tale and grow crappy meds.

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You should never start growing your clones or seeds until your grow room is finished and tested.....I test my new grow set ups for days before i put plants in it.......

you should throw those plants away finish your grow room then start over and do it right................. Have you ever grown before? You need some help bro... i wouldnt use mircle grow eather

im sure you're right but you know i'm not gonna do that , so whats wrong with them neway?

i would tell footclan thank you but all he did was tell me to throw my plants away .

where is all the GOOD input when you need it?

i did give you good imput...........You should eather FINISH your grow room i mean like NOW like today tomorrow OR you should throw them away you cant put them outside because its winter and you cant grow inside without a grow room so what do you expect people to tell you?? Im just being real with you... You are making noob mistakes jus trying to help you

you can go ahead and kill the mites but whats the point they will be right back cause you have no grow room and your room is unrentavated so even if you killed the mites they will be back because your room is under construstion which means dust and dirt and wheres theres saw dust and dirt theres spider mites........

Your plan is fataly flawed and your not understanding the big picture you keep talking about these l plants that arent even half way grown and there already dieased riddin and you have no grow room or even floor or anything........ Like i said you cant start a grow without a grow room....... Now if you have a place to take your plants like a friends house or something then do it and finish your grow room......

If you want to waste money and still presist with these plants even though nothing will come of it so be it. ill even tell you how to kill the mites........

If you really want to kill them try and get your hands on some "floramite" or "AVID" these products can be very hard to find and pricey ..here in cali they arent allowed to even sale it on the shelf i think....... This will kill your mites its like an atomic bomb its not good for you so keep it off your skin and dont breath it...... Some say its bad for your plants becuase we smoke them and inhale the bad stuff etc etc.... but if you really want to kil them thats the way to go......

Now theres other things less harsh and easyer to find like "AzaMax" or neem oil.....And theres always those home remidies you can find online but honestly once you have a full blown mite problem its time for the atomic bomb or its time to throw them out........... Now since you dont have a grow room and you dont seem to know what your doing i suggest throw them out and start over the right way after you have read a couple books, but since you refuse to listen to reason then your only option is to treat them the best you can and wait for them to die of some other problem that your bound to have very soon down the road.....

Remember they lay ther eggs every 3 days so once you treat the plants you will need to retreat again 3 days later... you do this over and ove tell they are gone..... But even if you get rid of them your bound to be back here asking me more questions that you wont like the answer too haha......hope some of this helps.......

well thanks a lot for your unput , sounds like you give a lot of someone elses answers after looking at a lot of your posts, i have actually grown enough to know that they will grow out of it soon , it has just been a while since i've grown something new , you dont need a perfect room to grow good bud and you should probably get yourself a little more experience before you start giving advice