First grow help needed... pics uploaded

Buba Blend

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Started 12/12 on the 11th July...
I started having problems that looked that the following pics, I didn't experience those issues when on veg.
I started flower stage with temp 73-77 and humidity between 53%-55%

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I gave my plants a good trim on Saturday, they looked weak but recovered the next day.

This is how they looked after trimming
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Sunday they seemed much better and fully recovered, however on Monday I experienced a serious problem and light went off most of the day which effected the light cycle, and they had 9 hours of light instead of 12. Today I had to relocate them and move the entire tent to a new place which I believe messed up the plants rotien totally. The where exposed to higher than their normal temperatures and humidity, max readings show
86 temp and humidity was 82%.

After relocating them I watered using NPK 20:20:20 and Calcium, and this is how they look today.
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Bad habit of skimming. Did anyone mention powdery mildew because that is what the powder on the leaf looks like.
 

Naija

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Bad habit of skimming. Did anyone mention powdery mildew because that is what the powder on the leaf looks like.
Hello, thanks for the input, i am in no way an expert but I am positive this is not powdery mildew, maybe my pics are not clear I'll upload new pics today. I had a male plant and when I took it out I broke the stem it was hallow, so I think one of the deficiencies is Calcium, today I'll use epsom salt foliar spraying, and feed them with Calcium as well and see how they develop.

Btw how do I start a journal, I am using an iPad I don't think I have full access to full site
 

Naija

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I hate Dxing online: but ill throw my thoughts in: light is too far, overwatering causing soil to become unbreathable, inability to up-take-nuets.

its just guessing lol
Lights are indeed far in the pics, I've raised some of the plants up, later. I'll post some pics of the light spectrum reading tonight.
 

SoOLED

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Lights are indeed far in the pics, I've raised some of the plants up, later. I'll post some pics of the light spectrum reading tonight.
while you in there doing that, but some bends in afore they get too ridged.
 

Buba Blend

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Hello, thanks for the input, i am in no way an expert but I am positive this is not powdery mildew, maybe my pics are not clear I'll upload new pics today. I had a male plant and when I took it out I broke the stem it was hallow, so I think one of the deficiencies is Calcium, today I'll use epsom salt foliar spraying, and feed them with Calcium as well and see how they develop.

Btw how do I start a journal, I am using an iPad I don't think I have full access to full site
Ok! There was only one pic where I thought I saw it, the one were you are holding a leaf in the palm of your hand.
 

Naija

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Ok! There was only one pic where I thought I saw it, the one were you are holding a leaf in the palm of your hand.
Ahhhhh I see, those pics with the leaf on my palm are 2 weeks old, it might have been powdery mildew then cause I had slight challenges which I was able to fix quick, I currently live in Africa and I have limited access to things I need so I have to make everything at home, 2 weeks ago I did neem oil out of neem leafs and seeds. And I most say neem works like magic for almost any problem I face :)

For my next grow I'll make some coconut peat at my house and use it instead of garden soil... I think that will help a lot
 

im4satori

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question

the 20-20-20 fertilizer

is that a liquid or is it a powder

the 2nd bottle containing the calcium, is that a liquid or powder?

whats the medium?
 

im4satori

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that is some very strong fertilizer and its a little N heavy in its ratio

your plants look N tox and the fertilizer being heavy in N it also suggests the same

an appropriate amount to mix would be
per gallon
2 grams 20-20-20 (if its liquid then its 2 mls not grams))
2 grams calcium product (if its liquid then its 2 mls not grams)
1.5 grams Epsom salt
 

Naija

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that is some very strong fertilizer and its a little N heavy in its ratio

your plants look N tox and the fertilizer being heavy in N it also suggests the same

an appropriate amount to mix would be
per gallon
2 grams 20-20-20 (if its liquid then its 2 mls not grams))
2 grams calcium product (if its liquid then its 2 mls not grams)
1.5 grams Epsom salt
You are absolutely right it's toxicity, today I measured TDS on the run off water and it gave me a shocking 5.00 ppt or 5000 ppm; the NPK is powder and I've been feeding much more than 2 grams , the calcium is liquid and the feeding was higher than 2 ml but not much higher. The medium is garden soil that I've been adding to it veg left overs, cow manure, leafs etc for the past two years in my back yard.

What I plan on doing now is to either flush all of them out, or totally stop adding any nutes to the water and let the TDS value drop slowly... any suggestions?
 

im4satori

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Does baking it maybe kill off much of the microbiota?
Maybe you'd benefit from an EWC tea, that sort of thing :)
ya man
that's a good idea to bring the microbe biology to life

but not right now

EWC will add more N and biology add more availability of whatever is in the soil adding to your N isssue
 

im4satori

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PPM only, but I can do EC if it's important, it'll have to be Monday though, don't both readings lead to the same conclusion?
not really but kinda

EC is universal so no matter what brand you buy it should read the same thing

ppm is a conversion from EC and depending on the brand the conversion rate is different therefore your ppm meter and my ppm meter might read different things depending on the brand

but if we are both reading EC we know were comparing apples to apples
 

im4satori

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I just did something interesting id never done or heard of

it was written in some info I read many years ago when I was in hydro and i didn't pay it much attention at the time cuz its about soil

i took 1/3 cup of dry soil from the middle up the pot (digging it out to get low) and added 2/3 distilled water

let it sit 30 minutes stirring a few times

then take an EC reading

then multiply that reading by 2.4

i just did mine for the first time cuz i now grow in soil

it was EC 0.89 x 2.4 = EC2.1

which is a little hot i would think

with soil being ideal between 1.5 and 1.8 from what ive read
 

im4satori

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I just did something interesting id never done or heard of

it was written in some info I read many years ago when I was in hydro and i didn't pay it much attention at the time cuz its about soil

i took 1/3 cup of dry soil from the middle up the pot (digging it out to get low) and added 2/3 distilled water

let it sit 30 minutes stirring a few times

then take an EC reading

then multiply that reading by 2.4

i just did mine for the first time cuz i now grow in soil

it was EC 0.89 x 2.4 = EC2.1

which is a little hot i would think

with soil being ideal between 1.5 and 1.8 from what ive read
after some experimenting

I don't find this method to be reliable

I read it and had never tried it but not sure its any good
 
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