First Grow Setup (HELP)

shroomman

New Member
Hey everyone! I am looking for some guidance around the process of growing weed. I for the last two weeks i have been doing much research and ordering the materials i will be needing for this grow. As my first . grow i decided to scale up from my original 3x3x5 tent to a 4x8x7 tent which should 8-10 5 gallon pot. I was originally worried that this size grow would be too large and smelly towards the last month. I had a few questions which i will list below and hopefully someone will be able to share there knowledge with me!

Questions:
1) SMELL CONCERN: For my tent (4x8x7) will i have a smell problem if i setup the tent with 8-10 plants in a extra room in my townhouse? Someone lives below me and i most definitely would not want them complaining (they know i smoke weed but still haha). Currently I have 2 VIVOSUN 6 Inch 440 CFM Inline Fan with Speed Controller, 6 Inch Carbon Filter and 8 Feet of Ducting (for intake and exhaust) which will be running through VIVOSUN Hydroponic 1000 Watt HPS MH Grow Light Air Cooled Reflector Kit. BOTH the intake and exhaust will be pointed out of a window. I will also have a small fan circulating air and plan on getting many ONA products towards the final month of flowering.

2) LIGHTING CONCERN: I was wondering if my SunMaster 901867 Harvest Metal Halide Conversion Lamp, 1000-watt, Green and EyeHortilux HX66785 1000-Watt Super HPS Spectrum Grow Bulb was enough lighting for the 8-10 plants i will be sticking into the 4x8x7 tent. Both bulbs will be in a VIVOSUN Hydroponic 1000 Watt HPS MH Grow Light Air Cooled Reflector Kit which brings a dimmable ballast. Also i have another VIVOSUN Hydroponic 600 Watt HPS MH Grow Light Air Cooled Reflector Kit with the same bulbs but in 600watt variant and was wondering if adding it to the tent with the 1000 watt light would be to much or if it would it be beneficial (i figured there might be an uneven distribution of light)

3) HEAT/HUMIDITY CONCERN: Currently the humidity in my place is about 50% which is not bad for my growing situation. Once everything starts i believe it will be harder to maintain a constant temp and humidity level. Any recommendations do help prevent any problems with this and even lower the humidity towards the final stage of growing to 40%.

4) My tent is about 80in in height. with the hydroponic pot and grow light i will have about 50-60in of grow space in height per plant. Is this enough? This grow i will be planting BlueDream, Gorilla Glue, and White Widow which from my research each grow to about 120cm?
 
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shroomman

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Figured i'd my setup

VIVOSUN Hydroponic 600 Watt HPS MH Grow Light Air Cooled Reflector

VIVOSUN Hydroponic 1000 Watt HPS MH Grow Light Air Cooled Reflector

EyeHortilux HX66785 1000-Watt & 600-Watt Super HPS Spectrum Grow Bulb

SunMaster 901867 Harvest Metal Halide Conversion Lamp, 1000-watt & 600-watt, Green

VIVOSUN Air Filtration Kit: 4 Inch 203 CFM Inline Fan with Speed Controller, 4'' Carbon Filter and 8 Feet of Ducting

2xVIVOSUN 6 Inch 440 CFM Inline Fan with Speed Controller, 6 Inch Carbon Filter and 8 Feet of Ducting

Deep Water Culture (DWC) Hydroponic Bubbler 8 Bucket Kit with 6" Lids'

2xDeep Water Culture (DWC) Hydroponic Bucket Kit 5 Gallon, 6 inch

General Hydroponics pH Control Kit

General Hydroponics Flora Grow, Bloom, Micro Combo Fertilizer set, 1 Quart

Botanicare CAL-MAG Plus Plant Supplement 2-0-0 Formula, 1 Quart
 

GBAUTO

Well-Known Member
Welcome, shroomman
I would suggest more lighting-the 1000 isn't enough to flower a 4x8 footprint, so adding the 600 would help. I would suggest that you focus on ventilation-you'll have a significant heat load to exhaust/condition. I run a UC style 4 tote set up in a 5x5 area under 850 watts of Samsung F strips and it can be a challenge to get rid of enough heat to keep the hydro system cool.
I originally ran an 8 bucket RDWC system in the same space and it was really tough to keep everyone happy. Switched to the 4 site setup last year and it out produced the 2 previous runs in the buckets by 30% even with one ornry plant. Each plant has a 2.5x2 canopy and I manifold them with 6-8 tops and flip @ 14" above the net lid when they reach that trellis. Usually stretches to about 36" above the netlid and a second trellis is advised.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1EEbC26B_4aWhz8C9HS3N-nQqp-4KfvcnWg
https://drive.google.com/open?id=18gxGrtmRvJvRhjrWkt3ryp9lwzMLbhsDAw
4 plants in a 4x4 gets crowded, so I would run the 8 bucket system and see what it does.
The other suggestion for your hydro system would be pathogen control-either a sterile regimen or using a beneficial microbe package like Hydroguard or Tribus.
 

shroomman

New Member
Welcome, shroomman
I would suggest more lighting-the 1000 isn't enough to flower a 4x8 footprint, so adding the 600 would help. I would suggest that you focus on ventilation-you'll have a significant heat load to exhaust/condition. I run a UC style 4 tote set up in a 5x5 area under 850 watts of Samsung F strips and it can be a challenge to get rid of enough heat to keep the hydro system cool.
I originally ran an 8 bucket RDWC system in the same space and it was really tough to keep everyone happy. Switched to the 4 site setup last year and it out produced the 2 previous runs in the buckets by 30% even with one ornry plant. Each plant has a 2.5x2 canopy and I manifold them with 6-8 tops and flip @ 14" above the net lid when they reach that trellis. Usually stretches to about 36" above the netlid and a second trellis is advised.
4 plants in a 4x4 gets crowded, so I would run the 8 bucket system and see what it does.
The other suggestion for your hydro system would be pathogen control-either a sterile regimen or using a beneficial microbe package like Hydroguard or Tribus.
Appreciate the response gbauto! I was thinking of only using all 8 buckets and using both the 1000w and 600w but how would i set that up so that there is an even distribution of light? Because if lets' say i put the 1000w on one 4x4 block and 600w on the other 4x4 block one side would get more light than the other. Would my best option be getting another 1000w HPS system and return the 600w system? hopefully with the one 4in incline to bring in cool air and a 6in exhaust fan (running through the air cooled reflector) ill be okay with heat. Yea i forgot to add Hydroguard to my list of items
 

shroomman

New Member
Bump. I decided to go ahead and replace the 600w with another 1000w reflector hood. Biggest concern right now is heat because i'm wondering if i connect both 1000w hoods so that the layout is as follows. Intake 6 Inch 440 CFM Inline Fan : 6in ducting: 1000w reflector hood : 6in ducting : 240CFM booster : 6in ducting : 1000w reflector hood : 6in ducting connected to a 8in->6in duct reducer : Exhaust 8 Inch 720 CFM Inline Fan. With 2 small fans circulating the lower air. I love the cold so my place is always around 70 and in the winter i'm rarely blasting the heat so hopefully that helps.
 

BCmadman

Member
Bump. I decided to go ahead and replace the 600w with another 1000w reflector hood. Biggest concern right now is heat because i'm wondering if i connect both 1000w hoods so that the layout is as follows. Intake 6 Inch 440 CFM Inline Fan : 6in ducting: 1000w reflector hood : 6in ducting : 240CFM booster : 6in ducting : 1000w reflector hood : 6in ducting connected to a 8in->6in duct reducer : Exhaust 8 Inch 720 CFM Inline Fan. With 2 small fans circulating the lower air. I love the cold so my place is always around 70 and in the winter i'm rarely blasting the heat so hopefully that helps.

I could be confused and reading this wrong but it seems like you have a fan at either end and a middle booster for your light tubes. To me I'd think that's way overkill. Your single 720cfm should be able to either pull or blow those tubes by itself? I'm no expert maybe someone else with more knowledge can step in and advise, I just read it as excessive and a waste of resources that is if I'm understanding it correctly
 

shroomman

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I could be confused and reading this wrong but it seems like you have a fan at either end and a middle booster for your light tubes. To me I'd think that's way overkill. Your single 720cfm should be able to either pull or blow those tubes by itself? I'm no expert maybe someone else with more knowledge can step in and advise, I just read it as excessive and a waste of resources that is if I'm understanding it correctly
The middle booster is probably overkill but i'm pretty sure i need an intake to bring in cool air at a high rate of 440cfm and cool through not just one but two 1000watt hood reflectors which will be producing tons of heat to then be exhausted by a single 720cfm. According to Gbauto my setup is going to be producing extreme amounts of heat
 
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