First Time DIY Bubbleponics. NIrvana Papaya

BUBBLEHEADS Needed. I have just setup a DIY bubbleponic system. I have a 52L container, 4 4" pots, and i am using 6 23 watt 6500k CFL. i have presoaked my rockwool and placed 4 seeds in the rockwool after soaking them in water for 24 h. Should i have my water hoses trickling on the rockwool? should i cover up the pots so ther are in the dark? how much water do i need in my cointainer and should i have my air on?It been 2 days and no sighns of spouts. how long should i wait and how deep in the rockwool.

what is the best way to germinate seeds because i should try another method. has anyone had success with the nirvana papaya seeds?

picture of my closet set up when ad if i can germinate these seeds i have 8 6500k 23 watt cfls too use but i cant seem do germinate anything

It has been 2 weeks since i ordered the seeds from marijuanaseedscanada.com and nothing anyone ever had succsess with these guys

Take some paper towel and fold it up a few times. Wet it and place your seeds on the towel. Fold it over and put it in a zip lock bag. check it every day. I have seeds germ in as little as 24 hours and as long as a week so it can take time. Once you see the seed crack you can place it in your rockwool with the sprout going down. You want to plant it as soon as you can. Dont wait till the sprout is even a half in long. Its to easy to damage them. Put the cube id a propagation dome with a bit of water in it to keep the humidity up and the cubes moist. Do not let them dry out! Before long you will start to see some roots popping out of the cube then its time to put in your chamber. You also dont need to feed them for the first week and when you do feed only do it at 1/2 strength. Good luck.

i went through 8 seeds and tried the paper towel method (didnt work for me). so then i tried the shot glass idea. left soaking for 24 hrs. tap the seed with your finger and the baby seed will drop to the bottom (usually stays at the top bc there is an air bubble in there. very common). then the seed should start cracking and rooting. right after that, put right into your medium. i have had a great success with this method after thinking i had a blackthumb with the paper towel method. hope this helps dude

So both of you completely disagree with eachother. if the seed racks in the water wont it drownd. and how long was it until they cracked

adam66 said:

BUBBLEHEADS Needed.
I am sorry I missed this thread.

I have just setup a DIY bubbleponic system. I have a 52L container, 4 4" pots, and i am using 6 23 watt 6500k CFL. i have presoaked my rockwool and placed 4 seeds in the rockwool after soaking them in water for 24 h. Should i have my water hoses trickling on the rockwool? YES, 24/7 for the first 3 weeks, but NO nutes until you see 4 leaves, not counting the first two round ones. Then start 1/4 strenght nutes..

should i cover up the pots so ther are in the dark? YES, for sure.

how much water do i need in my cointainer and should i have my air on?
You need a one to two inch air pocket betwen the bottom of the cups and the top of the water line.

It been 2 days and no sighns of spouts. how long should i wait and how deep in the rockwool.

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1/4 deep in the cube, takes 3 to 7 days, depending on if you soaked them first.

I wish I had seen this earlier.
look here:

Roseman's DIY Bubbleponics Tutorial - Marijuana Growing

step by step with pics

know I will get at least one dud, a seed that does not sprout. I also expect a runt or two runts.
I am going to germinate 5 extra seeds, using the "wet paper towel" method. Some growers perfer to sprout the seeds first in a wet paper towel, then after they are sprouted, add the sprouts to the cubes. I will use these if I have to replace a dud or runt.

I simply take a doubled up wet paper towel, folded in 4ths, soaking wet, and lay my seed on it.
There can NOT be a puddle of water, only a damp towel.





I cover it with a 2nd doubled up paper towel, and then cover that with a bowl.







I sit the bowl and plate in a warm dark place where the air conditioner will not blow cold air on it.



I can soak a seed 24 hours and get it to sprout in 30 hours, but IF I soak 12 seeds at a time, I will average 4 seeds that take a full week to pop open. There is always one to three that pop very fast, and some that take a week. Be patient. You can not be a successful grower, if YOu can not develope PATIENCE.

I started soaking the seeds Sunday afternoon, 8-23-09 around 4:00 pm.
I wanted to soak them 24 hours, but I soaked them about 28 to 30 hours.
I placed them in the cubes around 8:15 to 8:30, Monday night, 8-24-09.
Tuesday night, 8-25-09 around 9:00 pm, I found this sprout already.
I went in to the closet to make sure each and every cube was soaking wet. That lets me know my water pump, tubes and hub are working good. What a surprise!
Try this same experiment in a plain DWC, or Aeroponic System, or whatever, and see how that sprout does.

This is what the feeder tubes and irrigation hub and bubbles are all about, SPEED!

jdubness said:

i went through 8 seeds and tried the paper towel method (didnt work for me). so then i tried the shot glass idea. left soaking for 24 hrs. tap the seed with your finger and the baby seed will drop to the bottom (usually stays at the top bc there is an air bubble in there. very common). then the seed should start cracking and rooting. right after that, put right into your medium. i have had a great success with this method after thinking i had a blackthumb with the paper towel method. hope this helps dude

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Cosign; never figured out what people loved about the "paper towel" method - I throw some beans in a glass with some water in a warm, dark place and when I come back the next day, they've all popped.

Works every time - the only issue (if it's even an issue) is having to use a spoon to get the sprouted beans out of the glass, but even that's pretty easy with some practice.

Good luck.

awsome response roseman.. ill keep posting as my seeds sprout

what do you think about the glass method roseman

adam66 said:

what do you think about the glass method roseman

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what is it?

letting the seed sit in a shot glass until it spruts, i seen that you leave your seeds in one inch of water for 24 hours can they sprout in that one inch of water and go straight into rockwool

adam66 said:

letting the seed sit in a shot glass until it spruts, i seen that you leave your seeds in one inch of water for 24 hours can they sprout in that one inch of water and go straight into rockwool

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sure, as long as you putting it in the bubbleponics system.

let me come back and say, you can easily drown a seed, and when in a puddle of water, they do not want to pop and grow. They will pop and rot!

I jsut try to start mine in the system to start with.

Roseman said:

sure, as long as you putting it in the bubbleponics system.

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The first seed just popped above the rockwool. I cut up some styrofoam plates and made 4 covers i cut a hole in the center of the one with the baby sprout and the rest are to block some of the light, I set up 1 2' T5 daylight bulb 2" away 24/7 i will set up my other cfls when some more of them sprout. I will take a picture when the camera charges

instead of the manifod for the hoses going to the nets that i see every1 using i just have a gang valve with 4 shut offs is that ok? is there anything special about the manifold

adam66 said:

instead of the manifod for the hoses going to the nets that i see every1 using i just have a gang valve with 4 shut offs is that ok? is there anything special about the manifold

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not really, excpet you can lower the flow some. Fix your gang valve to LOW Flow.

Ok the water coming up out of my feeder tubes is at a slow drip.....(pause)........drip and cant speed it up is that not enough water for them?

adam66 said:

Ok the water coming up out of my feeder tubes is at a slow drip.....(pause)........drip and cant speed it up is that not enough water for them?

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a slow steady drip feed is fine.