dimebagdan
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First time grow - Pakistan Ryder Autoflowering, CFL!!
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Robertx
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That is time for an update here.
Of my 2 initial Pakistan Ryders, one died. I made some major mistakes, like overwatering, changing growing medium etc.
The other plant, the ugly one, began to grow a little faster. I trimmed her roots last week... trimmed about 1 inch of her roots, replanted her and after 4 days showing no signs of grow I had watered her with lots of fresh water. Next day it turned out a healthy-looking bitch.
*NEW PLANT*
Last Sunday my 3rd and last feminized Pakistan Ryder seed cracked after 30 hours germinating in paper towel. I planted it sunday: it is on day 3 since the seed cracked and is looking great. it is taller thank the other 2 week old plant, and its leafs are growing wild! This time I added a LOT of perlite in the soil mix, maybe 60% perlite. I think this made a big improvement in my ultra compact soil, letting the roots breathe.
I'm still using 6 CFLs and wont change the setup this soon. Using 20/4 photoperiod.
Pictures soon!
Of my 2 initial Pakistan Ryders, one died. I made some major mistakes, like overwatering, changing growing medium etc.
The other plant, the ugly one, began to grow a little faster. I trimmed her roots last week... trimmed about 1 inch of her roots, replanted her and after 4 days showing no signs of grow I had watered her with lots of fresh water. Next day it turned out a healthy-looking bitch.
*NEW PLANT*
Last Sunday my 3rd and last feminized Pakistan Ryder seed cracked after 30 hours germinating in paper towel. I planted it sunday: it is on day 3 since the seed cracked and is looking great. it is taller thank the other 2 week old plant, and its leafs are growing wild! This time I added a LOT of perlite in the soil mix, maybe 60% perlite. I think this made a big improvement in my ultra compact soil, letting the roots breathe.
I'm still using 6 CFLs and wont change the setup this soon. Using 20/4 photoperiod.
Pictures soon!
dimebagdan
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do not trim the roots ever. even if they stick out of the pot.
Robertx
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I ovewatered badly the first 2 plants in their early days. One died.
So i took the other one, and saw the tips of the roots beginning to rot... i trimed the rot. Its growth stunted, but now it took off after some NPK 8-8-8 light feeding and a better oxygenated soil
Thanks for the tip, guys! The other plant, the one planted last Sunday is growing like mad, it will eventually pass the root-trimmed one, I Think.
I had put 1'' of big perlite rocks at the botton of the bucket, and lots of small sized perlite in the soil mix. Looking good so far....
So i took the other one, and saw the tips of the roots beginning to rot... i trimed the rot. Its growth stunted, but now it took off after some NPK 8-8-8 light feeding and a better oxygenated soil
Thanks for the tip, guys! The other plant, the one planted last Sunday is growing like mad, it will eventually pass the root-trimmed one, I Think.
I had put 1'' of big perlite rocks at the botton of the bucket, and lots of small sized perlite in the soil mix. Looking good so far....
Robertx
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The all important PH
I took a while to post here again... it's time for news.
My oldest plant is 25 days old (from sprout). It is the one I cut the root tips. The week after I cut it's root tips, it began to grow nicely, but afterwards it's growth just STUNTED. It stoped, literally for more than 1 week.
The other one is 12 days old from sprout. It leafs are bigger than the first one, but its color is a very light green while the first one is dark green and looks more healthy.
The thing is: yesterday I made a PH test of my tap water, the water i use to feed them. It's PH was 8.6!!!!!!!!!
No wonder why the f***ers dont grow. So, I made a mix of tap water and a little bit of vineager and PH tested it: 6.2
So.... I poured the 6.2 water over the soil of both and to my surprise they "waked up" bigger this morning!
The 25 day-old even grew a new branch and developed its first set of BIG fan leafs. Those leafs were tiny the day before.
The plant i cuted the root tips is growing perfectly, but it is SMALL!! I think I just made a BONSAI CANNABIS PLANT without ever knowing it! LOL!!!
I understood the importance of PH...
I have a nice advantage - my brother has a degree in agronomy! lol!
He said the ideal PH is between 5.5 and 6.5 for most bud-producing plants. He also instructed me that Boron is always underlooked - when the plant is in vegetative growth, the more N and Boron, the better, since those elements work together providing foliage growth and health.
I apologize for not posting pictures since my first post. Hope this weekend I can finally post some!
As a side note: I'm finally working on a grow box. I have it 50% done. It's small, with good air intake and exhaust and made with white plywood (don't know how its called in English, it is like a "plastic" cover over one of the plywood sides. Formic?).
Cheers!
I took a while to post here again... it's time for news.
My oldest plant is 25 days old (from sprout). It is the one I cut the root tips. The week after I cut it's root tips, it began to grow nicely, but afterwards it's growth just STUNTED. It stoped, literally for more than 1 week.
The other one is 12 days old from sprout. It leafs are bigger than the first one, but its color is a very light green while the first one is dark green and looks more healthy.
The thing is: yesterday I made a PH test of my tap water, the water i use to feed them. It's PH was 8.6!!!!!!!!!
No wonder why the f***ers dont grow. So, I made a mix of tap water and a little bit of vineager and PH tested it: 6.2
So.... I poured the 6.2 water over the soil of both and to my surprise they "waked up" bigger this morning!
The 25 day-old even grew a new branch and developed its first set of BIG fan leafs. Those leafs were tiny the day before.
The plant i cuted the root tips is growing perfectly, but it is SMALL!! I think I just made a BONSAI CANNABIS PLANT without ever knowing it! LOL!!!
I understood the importance of PH...
I have a nice advantage - my brother has a degree in agronomy! lol!
He said the ideal PH is between 5.5 and 6.5 for most bud-producing plants. He also instructed me that Boron is always underlooked - when the plant is in vegetative growth, the more N and Boron, the better, since those elements work together providing foliage growth and health.
I apologize for not posting pictures since my first post. Hope this weekend I can finally post some!
As a side note: I'm finally working on a grow box. I have it 50% done. It's small, with good air intake and exhaust and made with white plywood (don't know how its called in English, it is like a "plastic" cover over one of the plywood sides. Formic?).
Cheers!
dimebagdan
Well-Known Member
formica ....
Robertx
Well-Known Member
Yo Dan, thanks, its called "formica" for sure.
Here are some pictures. Any input on how they look would be much appreciated.
Oh, today I bought a negative ion mercury bulb, a spiral CFL-looking bulb that eliminates odors and repels insects, don't know if it will work well tough...I will test it and post results here.
26 days old feminized Pakistan Ryder
13 days old
26 days old
26 days old
13 days old
13 days
13 days
da mess
26 days old
13 days old
26 days
13 days
26 days
26 days
my mess again
Here are some pictures. Any input on how they look would be much appreciated.
Oh, today I bought a negative ion mercury bulb, a spiral CFL-looking bulb that eliminates odors and repels insects, don't know if it will work well tough...I will test it and post results here.
26 days old feminized Pakistan Ryder
13 days old
26 days old
26 days old
13 days old
13 days
13 days
da mess
26 days old
13 days old
26 days
13 days
26 days
26 days
my mess again
sweet island skunk09
Member
how frequently do you water?
are you using any nutes?
what kind of bulbs are you using?
are you using any nutes?
what kind of bulbs are you using?
greenearth5
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that first plant is really small for being a month old.. are these plants getting the results you expected?
atxbudgrower
Active Member
yo decided to check out your journal some advice i would change out the clf's that have the orange glow to them they can make younger plants stretch happened to mine swap them out for the blue ones ill post some pics of mine here to if you dont mind its diesel ryder bout 2 weeks or so from harvest its 10in tall looking to maybe pull half a oz off her shes carrying seeds as well so there wont be much to bud but i wont have to worry bout seeds for awhile i took these pics today too she keeps getting fatter and more frosty everyday
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Robertx
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Greenearth, this grow is done. The 2 Pakistan Ryders that survived turned out to be males after forced flowering.
Atx, thanks man, I'm growing Diesel Ryders also right now!!! I have 2 females and 2 unsexed, the oldest female is in its 3rd week flowering.
Now I'm curious about your setup, how many CFLs do you use? And what is your spectrum/wattage.
I'm currently using only 6 CFLs in a 1x1 area. 4 of them are 2700k 23watt, 1 is 6500k 30watt and the other is 18watt 6500k negative ion bulb, to keep odours off... it works wonders.
With those 6 bulbs my plants are healthy but they keep small... not as fat as yours!
Atx, thanks man, I'm growing Diesel Ryders also right now!!! I have 2 females and 2 unsexed, the oldest female is in its 3rd week flowering.
Now I'm curious about your setup, how many CFLs do you use? And what is your spectrum/wattage.
I'm currently using only 6 CFLs in a 1x1 area. 4 of them are 2700k 23watt, 1 is 6500k 30watt and the other is 18watt 6500k negative ion bulb, to keep odours off... it works wonders.
With those 6 bulbs my plants are healthy but they keep small... not as fat as yours!
atxbudgrower
Active Member
i had started out using cfls but i switched to a 400 watt hps but i had used both 2700 and 6500 but the 2700 made my seedlings stretch out a bit for the start i would recommend using 6500k when starting out and using both for the flower stage plants really love both spectrums good luck making those seeds i had only 2 females out the ten i ordered and one had hermied into a full blown male you should post pics of those you got going
growthspurt
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The orange glow is the flowering spectrum normally 2700k - 3000k range. You can see them on mine in this pic. I have the MH, 2 grow CFL's and 2 Flowering CFLs
Cannabivarin
Member
hey robert... Im new here and I hope you dont mind me posting in your journal!
I just wantedto say that your plants should be bigger by this point...These are mine at day 16...
Ive also checked Growspurts journals and WOW! you manage very well...I wish mine were growing as fast as his did because I really need the plants to be done in like..50 days time.
cheers and I hope it goes well!
I just wantedto say that your plants should be bigger by this point...These are mine at day 16...
Ive also checked Growspurts journals and WOW! you manage very well...I wish mine were growing as fast as his did because I really need the plants to be done in like..50 days time.
cheers and I hope it goes well!
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kineticz06
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Those are 26 days old man? Lol, at 26 days my pak riders are like 12-14 inches tall with a good amount of flowering occuring. Less is more with these strains. Use nutes at 1/4 the strength on like week 5, then back to water from that point out. CFL's, water every 4 - 7 days depending on how tall they get. The taller ones will require more watering. I have some pakistan riders just about ready to harvest if anyone wants to see