First time grower log with pics all help is appreciated!!

Dcheald said:

subbed to this... thinking about one of these cabinets myself

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anoos said:

Hey man, i'm interested to see how this all goes, i just picked up some bubblegum XL seeds i will pop at some point. I've heard the think different auto are really good from pretty much everyone i know who has tried them.
Here's my input on all this, for what it's worth:

97% humidity will slow growth as your plant won't be able to transpire properly, in fact other than cuttings 60% is plenty for vegetative growth, this includes seedlings...
Above about 80-90% humidity it will start to damage your carbon filter, as it starts to dampen the carbon.

If you add the MH it should lower humidity, as higher heat = lower humidity. Turning up your fan controller speed a bit could also help, depends on your external humidity.

IMHO SCROG will not be best for your situation, starting the autos first and also then later having photos in there, you will probably want to move them around, especially when you move the photos for flower.

But, Bendz are really good man! I use them all the time for LST on all my plants, and i find it easier to angle/position branches than bending or snapping branches.

I find topping plenty, (not autos) and bendz or other LST techniques are the best way to get fat bushy canopies all round in a limited space. Bendz and LST are great to get some side growth on autos too.

sorry if that's a bit of a ramble

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anoos said:

Hey man, i'm interested to see how this all goes, i just picked up some bubblegum XL seeds i will pop at some point. I've heard the think different auto are really good from pretty much everyone i know who has tried them.
Here's my input on all this, for what it's worth:

97% humidity will slow growth as your plant won't be able to transpire properly, in fact other than cuttings 60% is plenty for vegetative growth, this includes seedlings...
Above about 80-90% humidity it will start to damage your carbon filter, as it starts to dampen the carbon.

If you add the MH it should lower humidity, as higher heat = lower humidity. Turning up your fan controller speed a bit could also help, depends on your external humidity.

IMHO SCROG will not be best for your situation, starting the autos first and also then later having photos in there, you will probably want to move them around, especially when you move the photos for flower.

But, Bendz are really good man! I use them all the time for LST on all my plants, and i find it easier to angle/position branches than bending or snapping branches.

I find topping plenty, (not autos) and bendz or other LST techniques are the best way to get fat bushy canopies all round in a limited space. Bendz and LST are great to get some side growth on autos too.

sorry if that's a bit of a ramble

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thenewguy3211 said:

im so new and have no idea what im doing lol could u help be diagnose the issues im having? i posted above

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thenewguy3211 said:

im so new and have no idea what im doing lol could u help be diagnose the issues im having? i posted above

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anoos said:

It's hard to say with no more information, but like others said, make a new thread and ill have a look bro.
but at a quick guess my bet would be a little overwatering, the most common nooby mistake, the wrinkly leaf looks like it could be a bit of wind burn i suppose but yeah would need more info/pics.

FWIW they really ain't that bad tbh

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BobCajun said:

I don't think you're actually supposed to bend a seedling stem over like that. Probably should wait a few weeks before starting any training.


* was very worry doing that my self, however few days before I start bending the stem right and lift.

In the begining the stem felt hard like a wooden toothpick then after that it moved with me and responded better in each time.

Regarding stunting the growth I can see with my eyes that she still growing fast, short, compact and doing well!!!

Here is a live pic





In fact am not worried about her growth at the moment as I see it responds well, and the down part get more light.

Am worried more about the distance from the lamp at the moment as i raised the pot with some cartoonbox.

Its away by 20 cm now from 250w MH

I have devided as well the seedlings around the reflecor, which is not really under the lamp.

And the distance for each plant to lamp is relative to how much light I feel that this practacular plant or the seedling needs light at the moment.


You also shouldn't need the circulation fan in there at all, since you have plenty of air pulled through the cabinet with the exhaust fan. Wind blowing the plants around is stressful to them and will stunt growth.

**I really dont know about that!!!
I feel the seedlings is slow alittle bit, maybe thats why or becouse its still seedlings?!!

Thise are planted like one week ago!
And shining silver haze I can see it cracking out at the moment.




Any kind of motion in plants reduces growth. It's called "mechanically induced stress". Here's an article.

***Thanks for that..

I know pretty much every grower uses circulating fans and their plants look like they're in a constant monsoon, but it's actually excessive air movement. Yes, it will produce shorter plants, but it's because their growth is stunted by the stress. I suspect that putting those training clips on plants would also cause mechanical stress, I don't know.

Something else I recommend is a water deionizer, since you said that your water is high pH, meaning lots of dissolved solids. While not necessary, it's good to use purified water if possible. Also make sure that when you water the coco that you use enough that at least 10% of it comes out the bottom of the pot and then throw that away, or salts will build up.

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I got my self blue lab EC pen

My tap water is 0,5 EC

I stick now to ph 5,5 to 6 max

And ec for seedlings with canna start and RHizo between 1 EC and 1.1

For think different sience 21 october she was on rhizo and canna start with the same EC

Two days back she had her last feesd of this combo for EC of 1,3
Ph 6

Today she got her first feed canna coco A&B with rhizo for EC of 1,6
Ph 6

Tommorow I wanna spray proudct calld spray and grow for flys and spider mites as I can see different flys is attracted inside.

Any cooments over that?!

Thanks alot and keep around.

Bubble

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BobCajun said:

I don't know if it's a good idea to spray stuff on them. I don't think many people use sprays. Maybe if it's completely safe and only used in veg stage.

Here is a link to that proudct! Its statues that its for both veg and flower and all stages, however am afried to use it on the seedlings now, plz advise!

https://www.growshoponline.nu/en/vmchk/bug-pest-control/spray-grow-concentrate-500ml/



Your ec and pH look okay. Your water has high salts though, 0.5 ec is about 350 ppm. Just check the reading of the runoff from the pots and make sure it doesn't look high. Salts can build up in coco.

Ill do so next time I water, am afried of chlorine and was thinking to search for any kind of filter for it.

The training clips might actually be good, because you could make the stem go horizontally all the way across the chamber supported by a pole or board and you would have a bunch of branches growing straight up along the vine-like stem. Then after the stem gets all the way to the chamber wall you just cut the tip off it.

Why should I cut the tip off? Cant I change the direction again and make in in away like its going in rounds?!



About the fan, it would make the stem shorter and thicker which is actually good, but when you change to flowering mode you should stop the fan, because then it would reduce the yield. You don't even need a circulating fan if you have an exhaust fan. It's only good in veg mode to make the plant shorter and stronger stemmed and with stronger roots. It won't make it grow faster. Here's another article with details
Ill stop the fan soon or direct it to the photos the first the AF start flowering.

Thanks for that as I didnt know that I should turn off this fan. In flower.

And very nice article..

Thanks for your replays, stick around bob

Peace

Bubble

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