First time grower looking for some help

FlyHigh589

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Hello all!! Recently, my father and I have decided to start growing but as its our first time, we are in need of some assistance. We have done tons of research and reading and are not skimping on anything. We have the full botanicare nutrient and supplement line, RO water, and a full aeroponic grow setup. However, we currently have our ladies in 5 gallon smart pots with coco so we can take clones off of them to put into our aeroponic system. Each of the plants are a few weeks old and we just started experiencing a few issues. First, the lower leaves on a few plants look wrinkled. They don't feel crispy or dry, they just look wrinkled.. Anything to be concerned with? Second, the tips of a few leaves on one plant look slightly "burned" or kinda yellow/brown. Is this nutrient burn? And on that same plant, most of the leaves are "taco curling" upwards. Last question is, what should we be pHing the nute water at for coco? Am I correct in thinking 5.9 is a fairly optimal pH for maximum nutrient absorption? Any help is greatly appreciated and I'm sure il have more questions in the near future. Pictures are below. In the next few days I will be starting a grow topic to show progress and hopefully get some advice and help. If anyone would be willing to "mentor" us it would be greatly appreciated. We have done plenty of research and don't mind spending $ to ensure things go well.

Thanks again!
 

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polishpollack

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Unfortunately, this is what you shouldn't do.
Growing in coco can be a bit of a challenge. Good chance you'll plug up your aero lines with coco bits when you switch. Aeroponics is not a good method for new growers to use. It is a method that has a very small margin of error. Screw it up and your plants die. If you're new to growing I'd suggest you just put your plants in Foxfarm soil and just water it when it's dry. Whatever you're doing with that fert is killing your plants now. You can't grow well by throwing money into it. Great grows take place all over without spending much.
 
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Olive Drab Green

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What's your heat and magnesium like, as well? And the aeroponics, alone, could cause it. Like, you just started, and that's a pretty difficult concept for some intermediate and advanced people, some of which claim that it's more of a liability of a human experiment.
 

FlyHigh589

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Polish-These are the potential mothers. They will not be going into the aeroponic system, only their clones. And I am definitely aware it is an advance grow method and I am certainly expecting trial and error and plenty of setbacks so no need to try to scare me away from it. And I certainly was not expecting to "buy" a good grow, simply that I was willing to get what was needed. So I am certainly not trying to be an asshole but please don't post if you are not willing to atleast attempt to help me.
And olive, we are using Mars hydro LED lights I believe 430 wats and are keeping our sealed room at between 73 to 78 and humidity at about 60% (though it seems to rise to about 70ish once lights go out) and we have a co2 tank keeping at about 1200. We starting using our cal/mag once it entered veg. (though I don't know exactly how to tell when it enters its vegetative stage. We waited about 10 days from germination once it had a few sets of leaves and a chance for its roots to web out and grow... any advice on this?) We are going by the manufacturers recommendation so it very well may be a mag issue. We flushed them with clearex tonight so I'm hoping for some improvement. What about the "taco" curl? Any ideas?
Thanks again for any help, and yes, I definitely understand the difficulty of aeroponics so no need for negativity, just help please :))
Here is our nutrients if it is of help at all. And a pic of what the setup looks like. Again, we are growing our mothers in coco/smart pots and will be taking clones to put into the aero setup. Thanks again!!
 

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Olive Drab Green

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Polish-These are the potential mothers. They will not be going into the aeroponic system, only their clones. And I am definitely aware it is an advance grow method and I am certainly expecting trial and error and plenty of setbacks so no need to try to scare me away from it. And I certainly was not expecting to "buy" a good grow, simply that I was willing to get what was needed. So I am certainly not trying to be an asshole but please don't post if you are not willing to atleast attempt to help me.
And olive, we are using Mars hydro LED lights I believe 430 wats and are keeping our sealed room at between 73 to 78 and humidity at about 60% (though it seems to rise to about 70ish once lights go out) and we have a co2 tank keeping at about 1200. We starting using our cal/mag once it entered veg and are going by the manufacturers recommendation so it very well may be a mag issue. We flushed them with clearex tonight so I'm hoping for some improvement. What about the "taco" curl? Any ideas?
Thanks again for any help, and yes, I definitely understand the difficulty of aeroponics so no need for negativity, just help please :))
Here is our nutrients if it is of help at all. And a pic of what the setup looks like. Again, we are growing our mothers in coco/smart pots and will be taking clones to put into the aero setup. Thanks again!!
Heat stress, usually. Are your plants closer than 12-18" from your LED and does it run hot?
 

slyone

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Learn to walk before you can run, polishpollack got it right "I'd suggest you just put your plants in Foxfarm soil and just water it when it's dry" as you are new to growing....
 

FlyHigh589

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Nah they don't run hot, and even down in the totes it stays about the same temp. And There probably about a foot away. And yea was kinda figuring it was a bit to big but figured I'd see if I could make it happen to reduce shock of transplants but thanks, il go down in size some tomorrow. Thanks you very much. Any help is greatly appreciated!!
 

FlyHigh589

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Unfortunatly, I will no longer take the time to respond to negative posts or others reiterating what I'm aware of. Yes, I understand it is a very difficult grow method. Yes, I understand I very well may fail,,, hard. But this is what I'm going to do so again, please don't post if you can offer no help.

Il be putting a grow journal with pictures up in the next day or two so you all can watch me fail miserably if that's what happens. Fortunately, my father is brilliant with engineering and we are both very patient, so wish us luck... or don't, because we will succeed regardless :)
 

sativa74e

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i would suggest raising you temp to 83-85 and keep your hum where it is. higher temps with co2 will cause a higher rate of transpiration. thus pulling more nutes minerals water etc from the medium all the way to the tips of the leafs. the purpling and leaf hook is def a mag issue with maybe alittle cal def. good luck to you! hope all grows green.
 
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