First time hydro grow

cheifrocker

Active Member
Hey guys! Have an attic space of which 4 by 8 area mantains at least a five foot height.Have a 3k budget which will be used to buy proper lighting,fans(exhaust and intake) carbon filter,and all else that goes. I have two questions though. Which method of hydroponics is the best use for me, keeping in mind that i am a first timer,looking for high yeilds, and i only have 28 inch by 28 inch doorway to get it into attic. Secondly, i am going to exhaust air through filter and out to ??? Need help with this. Do not know where to exhaust hot air, concerned with that thermal imaging technology.Is it possible to have hot air pass through filter then pass through something to cool air before it is exposed outside? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys
 

GreenGold

Well-Known Member
exhaust your hot air through the chimney pipe for less suspension, and unless you have a million dollar grow op I wouldnt worry about thermal imaging too much ( take that with a grain of salt, #1 thing to growing is security)

Im a newbie as well but I suggest getting some Dutch Leach trays, canna coco, and a small res for a drip system. To fit through the 28x28 hole
 

jordann9e

Well-Known Member
I wouldthe Ebb & Flow (Flood & Drain) technique. It's proven to be easy to maintain, gets good results and is for the most part, the cheapest.As for the air, you could run it through a A/C aparatus I suppose...
 

GreenGold

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I would disagree that ebb and flow is the cheapest:) Unless you can point me out in the right direction lol

I searched all the material you would need for a 10 plant grow in a 4x4 space and it came to $120 including trays pumps lines hardware etc..
this is for a drip system as I mentioned, I have no Idea is this would work better than Ebb & Flow but if you can put a system together for less I would love to know!:)
 

cheifrocker

Active Member
you dont think that attic will be too hot? humid?
To a degree,yes. However i framed out an insulated room. I should be able to control the tempature and humidity with proper tools(air conditioner/dehumidifier) i am concerned as to where i am going to dispose of the hot air though. I think i am going to grow roughly twenty plants in flower room( i failed to mention that entire 8 by 4 space will be dedicated to flowering, have space a little bigger next to it for clones, vegetation, supplies,drying)Any help on what to do with hot air would be greatly appreciated.
 

cheifrocker

Active Member
exhaust your hot air through the chimney pipe for less suspension, and unless you have a million dollar grow op I wouldnt worry about thermal imaging too much ( take that with a grain of salt, #1 thing to growing is security)

Im a newbie as well but I suggest getting some Dutch Leach trays, canna coco, and a small res for a drip system. To fit through the 28x28 hole
I live in a highly populated development with tons of cops, i am concerned about hot air blowing out of attic in mid February. I am leaning towards ebb and flow system,still do not know for sure though.
 

jussurphin

Active Member
Pulling air from outside your attic through your light and back where it came from outside your attic, wont increase the temp of the exhaust that much. Dont start with the air from the grow room (75degrees). Ventilate and exhaust the room separately. Id keep the ballasts, fans and scrubber outside the 'flower room' in the attic
 

cheifrocker

Active Member
Pulling air from outside your attic through your light and back where it came from outside your attic, wont increase the temp of the exhaust that much. Dont start with the air from the grow room (75degrees). Ventilate and exhaust the room separately. Id keep the ballasts, fans and scrubber outside the 'flower room' in the attic
Thanks Jussurphin for your reply,means much. Just so i am clear. I am purchasing lights this week, get ones that have the build in duct to cool down the lights? Keeping in mind that this is a framed,insulated room within an attic, pull air from directly outside or is attic air suffice? Exhaust air to attic or outside? Attic has two vents in each pitch with fresh air flowing through it. If this is true,this will not ventilate it as well? Your input is greatly appreciated,thanks!
 

saltroc

New Member
If you want to go easy to maintain with no headache I would do drip method w/ rockwool. Eb flow seems it would be pretty easy but i like the drip. But you do not want to do aero or DWC since res temp is a huge part of that sysytem.

Thanks
SALT
 

cheifrocker

Active Member
If you want to go easy to maintain with no headache I would do drip method w/ rockwool. Eb flow seems it would be pretty easy but i like the drip. But you do not want to do aero or DWC since res temp is a huge part of that sysytem.

Thanks
SALT[/qu
Thanks Salt! I originally was going to go with drip system,however i couldnt find a system that would fit through my 28 by 28 inch opening to the attic. Most of the trays on that system were 3 feet wide. I need a system roughly tray size of two feet by seven feet,and i could do two of those(although it would be tight)I am looking to flower about 20 plants. Now i know i could go build something custom, but i do not have the time and i would rather not have the headache. I found an ebb and flow with a good reservoir and buckets,12 of them. Can add on six with no headaches. If you know of any drip systems that meet the dimensions i mentioned earlier would be greatly appreciated.i have not gone down to shop yet, all my research is been done on the net. I apoligize if i am being stupid and there is an obvious system out there that meets my needs. i would rather just get all my info together before i go to shop so i can just get in and out.
 

saltroc

New Member
You can check out my grow and see how i did it on the link below. Hope that it might give you an idea or get the wheels turning on how to use the drip. I mean i use dutch trays they are like 6 inches wide by like 3.5 feet long and you can fit 3-4 plants in one tray. So you can run a couple of them paralell to each other but pics are good to help. You might want to pm me cause they dont like me here for some reason and i cant see if anybody has written me for a responce.


Thanks
SALT
 

email468

Well-Known Member
for your hydroponic system, I would build my own custom-made, custom fitted aeroponic system. There might be easier hydro-systems but why not start with the system with the fastest grow potential and learn the in's and out's right off the bat. Why invest in an Ebb and Flow or other system and work your way up to aero? waste of time and money IMO for very limited differences in ease of use.

Your budget is more than adequate to achieve what you are looking for.

You want to exhaust (air-cool) your lights using a different fan that the one used for exhaust.

also- have you a plan for moving A LOT of water in and out of your grow area?

anyway - here is a little something i wrote up regarding choosing a grow area/room which may help...
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The Grow Room or Closet

Before we can begin growing, we have to make some decisions regarding where to grow and what equipment to use. That's what this section is all about. But before we start making a shopping list and knocking out walls, let's decide where we're going to grow.

The ideal grow room should have the following qualities:

Clean - you don't want to give a lot of dust, mold, mildew, insects, or other unpleasant things easy access to your plants.

Climate controlled - you want an area that you can have some control over the temperature and humidity.

Secure - you don't want your garden to be accidentally or easily discovered. Some advice I heard was there should be no less than two locks between the outside and your plants. We'll also need to make sure we can control any odor emanating from the plants.

Easy Access to Water Source - this one is often overlooked. You don’t want to be running a garden hose through your bedroom or carrying heavy buckets of water up and down many flights of stairs. Not having easy access to fresh water can take the joy out of gardening.

Easy Access to Fresh Air - somehow, someway, fresh air must be able to enter the growing area, which infers a way to exhaust hot, stale and often very smelly air will be necessary.

Easy Access to Enough Electrical Sockets - provided it is convenient, heavy-duty power cords can be used to bring electricity to the garden. Often, it is necessary to add circuits to accommodate the electrical requirements.

Light-Tight - Finally, you'll want to be able to make your grow space light-tight. That means no light should be able to enter or leave the grow area. You want to keep light from exiting to prevent it from attracting unwanted attention. And no light should enter as to not disturb the plants photoperiod.

Fire/Water Proof- don't want anything easily ignitable in there. Also, a way to catch leaking water can save you much more than just money; especially if you have downstairs neighbors.

I'm sure a few areas sprung to mind. Closets, basements, attics and spare rooms all have their pros and cons. You can also purchase a grow tent. Building or modifying a cabinet is also a very popular option.

It is best to accurately sketch out the area you plan to use and draw in where all the components go.
 

stoverdro

Well-Known Member
If you go on ebay and check out their hydroponic systems i seen one that was made by a small time company like i would say homemade like. They look good and its a drip system also. Its made by someone called hydro-tech.The link below will lead you to the page.this is just one of em. They also give his email cause it said he would make a custom one..i think that could be a good investment for you as the doors limit you.



Closet Hydroponic System, organic, 3-4 month harvest - eBay (item 170259011243 end time Sep-11-08 19:26:41 PDT)
 
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